weerubbertummy Ayrshire, Scotland
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| 11/22/2011 7:41 AM |
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Before we lost Kintra, we had planned to get another gsp pup as we had always hoped to have two dogs eventually. We are due to collect Keely in just over 2 weeks and was wondering what you're thoughts are about adding another dog. We were thinking of getting another bitch when Keely is at least 6 months old as we are under the impression that a smaller age gap (both being really young and around the same age) would maybe mean the dogs are more "doggy" and maybe a little less inclined to develop a good bond with us. I'm assuming that having two bitches shouldnt really be a problem? Would appreciate your thoughts on this  |
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Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx |
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pixie bee
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| 11/22/2011 7:52 AM |
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The answer is dependent upon you. The environment,amount of time spent bonding/training,establishing leadership. |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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Shelley Bristol, UK
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| 11/22/2011 9:45 AM |
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| If it were me, I would wait until 12 - 18 months as you want the older dog to be well trained enough to concentrate on the little one. |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 11/22/2011 11:01 AM |
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| I agree with pixie, it really depends on you. I have three girls (two are intact) and one male (he was just neutered a few months ago) and my dogs get along with no issues. I do, however, spend allot of time with obedience as I like well behaved dogs. I also agree with Shelley, in I think a little older would be easier. At 6 months Keely will still be very much a puppy and will still require allot of your time. So the question is, will you also have enough time for working with a new puppy? I personally like my dogs to be a bit older before a puppy comes into the family and the older dogs teach the puppy allot about the rules of the house, etc. Dogs learn from watching. Mine right now are ages 8, 6, 3 and 1 years old. The closest in age are my two oldest girls who are a year and half apart. If I could have found a puppy when I was looking at the time they would have been about a year apart, but I waited for a specific bitch to be breed and have a litter so they ended up being a year and a half. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
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Splat Illinois (Northern)
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| 11/22/2011 11:01 AM |
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my first set of GSP were 6 months apart...my older one was and is very well behaved so I had no issues...however we lost our younger one at a young age so our next one made them 1 year apart...which I had no issues with.... it is purely a personal decision...depends on your time available and how well you want them trained... |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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weerubbertummy Ayrshire, Scotland
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| 11/22/2011 11:33 AM |
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Due to a health problem, i'm studying at home and trying to start a business which although sounds like a busy time, actually allows me to be fully flexible and can work around training and sleeping. I appreciate that maybe it would be better to add another dog to the family once Keely has matured a little and am glad take on any advice about this. I have looked into the age gap thing but have only found information which is aimed at all breeds. Having lived with dogs for nearly 36 years (apart from a 3 year break) i am in absolutely no doubt that gsps are very different from many others and really appreciate getting advice from people who know the breed so well. I always felt that Kintra was unlike any other dog at two years old (crazier ) and i do believe that they are slower than other breeds to mature (which i love) but still so intelligent at the same time. Will definately think more about waiting a bit longer. Thanks. |
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Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx |
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pixie bee
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| 11/22/2011 11:41 AM |
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| i do believe that they are slower than other breeds to mature I don't find this Maybe my perspective is different b/c of how I train? |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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weerubbertummy Ayrshire, Scotland
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| 11/22/2011 11:52 AM |
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Maybe it was just Kintra. I've lived with many working dogs including german sheperds, a labrador, and a german wirehaired pointer and just felt that Kintra retained her "puppyness" for a lot longer than any of them. I did do some research and many sources did seem to acknowledge that they do mature both phycially and mentally at a different rate. Similarly, when i worked at a boarding kennels, most of the young dogs werent as exuberant as she was - maybe i was just lucky with her  |
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Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx |
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everbell Kanata, ON
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| 11/22/2011 12:10 PM |
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Bo at 4.5 still reminds me a lot of the puppy he once was. Since he's my first dog, it's hard for me to say if other breeds behave the same way. I just remember praying for him to grow up (at 9 months and the puppy stupids kicked in ) |
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Joce and Rich Bogart and Shiraz (GSPs) Roxane (RIP: 1995-2009) and Tiger Lily (Cats) The Everbell Adventures |
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weerubbertummy Ayrshire, Scotland
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| 11/22/2011 12:16 PM |
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Maybe that's what's so amazing about them, they just never slow down or lose enthusiasm for life  |
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Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 11/22/2011 1:08 PM |
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| I think they stay young mentally all their life, and that is different from maturity. I think different lines mature at different rates. I know it took Halo until she was about 2 YO to mature and Ringo (half brother to Halo) was 3 before he started maturing. My girl, Belle, out of totally different lines came to us at 10 weeks very mature. I have always said Belle was born with an old soul, but she is still very young at heart even at 8 YO. I love that mental youthfulness of the shorthairs, and I love that they stay that way their entire life. They also are such fun loving dogs and always seem happy. The reason I fell in love with my boy, Ringo, was he was happy from his first day on earth and has remained the most happy go lucky dog I have ever had. Nothing gets him down. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
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Smylinacha Connecticut
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| 11/22/2011 2:44 PM |
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If I could have 10 gsp's I would LOL! We got Windsor last November and someone was always home with him. Well my husband changed to days now so we are both working days. My motherinlaw is still home but she couldn't be around him every second so we got Velvet in August. They get along just fine - she'll kick his butt if he's up hers too much. She pretty much dominates him (except for the other night when he peed on her). Last night I had to take an antler away from Windsor - it was knawed up enough to be thrown out. Windsor patiently watched Velvet chew on hers for close to an hour. He'd look up at me and wimper and fetched my slippers a few times to knaw on those which I had to hide. There was an antler slice in the other room - those thick round ones - but he wanted the antler SHE had. But he held out. When she was done, he took over. They get along great, we are glad we have two, they have eachother when we're working. And we can walk both together, let both out in the yard, play with both and also give them individual attention too. Even though it's more than one dog, each dog has a unique personality so they still need that individual attention too Guess it's like having more than one kid - same thing right? |
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vnrose53
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| 11/22/2011 3:04 PM |
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I've mostly had two for the last 25 years. First, littermate sisters. Good: getting the puppy stuff over once and for all. Bad: they squabbled their entire lives, although this was mostly because one of them was a prime bossy b****. After she died (of course she survived her saintly sister), I got a 9 month female, and 6 months later an 11 month male. Chelsea (the female) dominated him from the get-go but he knew his place and they got along fine. Last year I got middle-aged Humphrey (Chelsea is now 11) and again, he defers to her. (See a pattern in M/F relationships?)
I love having two as their interactions make life with them multiple times more fun, and it also makes being a "working mom" relatively guilt-free. In my small experience male and female (neutered for choice) might be the most harmonious matchup. And yeah, they keep that silly streak forever! |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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Shelley Bristol, UK
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| 11/24/2011 9:43 AM |
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| Oh yes, Hogan won't let another boy rule the roast... but for Rosa... he's putty in her precious little paws!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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juliej Kentucky
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| 11/24/2011 10:29 AM |
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I think two are wonderful. I would wait until the first is trained and bonded to you. You will know when she is old enough for you to devote the majority of your attention to the new pup. The first one will have developed confidence and security. Then go for it and get a new pup!
I vote for the female and male pairing if you plan to neuter either one. I also have noted females rule in the dog world most of the time. |
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Rose
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| 11/24/2011 1:39 PM |
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I also have noted females rule in the dog world most of the time.
I am curious, why is this?
We got a second dog too this year, a female, and she tends to rule over the male as well. |
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Rose, Casey - GSP, & Peyton - Brittany. (First time dog & GSP owner) |
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everbell Kanata, ON
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| 11/24/2011 6:06 PM |
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In our case, it's cuz raise is used to straightening out her puppies, and she treats Bo like one of them!  |
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Joce and Rich Bogart and Shiraz (GSPs) Roxane (RIP: 1995-2009) and Tiger Lily (Cats) The Everbell Adventures |
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Phillyo118 UK
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| 11/25/2011 2:06 AM |
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I think in the animal world, females rule the roost most of the time. They do the work of bringing up the babies etc, look at lions for example? I have two, a boy and a girl and although Keira is still only 7 months old, she is starting to put Bentley in his place...though he often goes there with a grumble haha. My two are about 18 months apart and it seems a good age. Young enough to play together and be puppies, but old enough that Bentley is pretty well trained. I have noticed that he has become less obedient since we got Keira though, her recall is better than his now...more work required I think!! |
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