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keanmuUser is Offline
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08/06/2011 4:42 PM  

Baira has been eating Taste of the Wild for over a year now. Before that she was on Orijen. My husband has always moaned at the price and now we have 2 GSP's I have been tol I have to buy a cheaper food. Not cheap but cheaper. Any recommendations please, even if it's not grain free.

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08/06/2011 8:15 PM  
I know many of the FT folks use Purina Pro Plan and swear by it. I suspect it is cheaper, but have never price compared.

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08/07/2011 2:44 PM  
I know Diamond is cheaper than taste of the wild and they are made by the same company....

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08/07/2011 4:17 PM  
You can also get Grain Free at Costco...it is Nature's Domain brand...blue bag for Salmon/sweet potato and red bag for Turkey. It runs about $30-$35 for a 35 pound bag. I really like the Costco (Kirkland) Brand Puppy also (chicken) tho it is not grain free. The Kirkland products are also manufactured by Diamond. (I thought TOW was a Eukanuba product, no?)

Pro Plan is a reasonable choice, weight circles which add up to $$ off once you collect a certain number of points. I don't currently feed it, but have and have been very satisfied.

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08/07/2011 6:09 PM  

Windsor has been on Taste of the Wild about 3 weeks after we got him.  He doesn't pass that stinky gas all the time anymore and his stools are better.  We'll be getting a second dog also and yes it costs some money!  He's doing so well on it, I'd be afraid to take him off it.  I cut his dose of that and he gets 1/2 can of Evanger on top of the Taste of the Wild, with an egg and some yogert - he only eats once a day so the bag lasts a while and he weighs over 60 lbs now.

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08/08/2011 12:24 PM  
I don't have to find an alternative now. I am happy to say that hubby wasn't actually serious about getting a cheaper food he just wanted to have a dig about the price.

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08/08/2011 12:49 PM  
ugh! men indeed. Remind him that you get in what you put out. Good quality food, means healthier dog, which means cheaper vet visits :D

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08/08/2011 8:39 PM  
I use TOTW and mix evangers ..at the vet clinic we see many dogs with skin issues and also SEASONAL ear and skin issues..(I had a doxie with ear problems, like 2-3 x a year..switched to grain free and NEVER again)..when the owners switch to grain free i would say 85% are better..it takes a few months to work..there are many brands out there..tractor supply and petsmart have there own grain free, some use beet pulp for the filler instead of potatoes..dont switch!!!!!
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08/09/2011 7:45 AM  
Yeah, DH used to whine about the cost of the food for our dogs too.

I think we were spending more on kibble for two dogs than we are with raw and 3 dogs. He still whines about it, but then I remind him that I feed the dogs!! LOL

And I do have a strong belief that yes, grain free is better for our carnivores!

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08/09/2011 9:41 AM  
we switched from Orijen to TOTW and bad gas is also gone! I think Orijen was too rich for ours. TOTW is cheaper and coat just as shiny and no gas
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08/12/2011 9:03 AM  

Hi;

Just a helpful comment here: if you're really trying to feed the best you can for your dogs, and save money while doing so, then you will stop feeding kibble altogether and start feeding your dogs a proper raw diet instead.

Why feed dry, nutritionally-devalued pellets of any kind to your dogs ... when you can feed them the moist, nutritionally-rich food items they were designed to eat in the first place?
 

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08/12/2011 9:10 AM  

oh boy, this guy again.

Why have a domesticated dog at all? They are man-made as well.

You aren't going to convince everyone on this forum to feed raw, buddy.  It works for some people, not for others.

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08/12/2011 10:31 AM  
Jack,
you are correct,raw is better and kibble leaves a lot to be desired
BUT raw is not the only way.





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08/12/2011 10:43 AM  
Hi Pixie;

I did not say raw was the "only" way, I said it was the best way ;)

It is also the cheaper way :D

But I also realize that people like Joey Bean are committed to "paying more" for nutriitionally-inferior food, because is saves them time.

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08/12/2011 10:57 AM  
Posted By JoeyBean on 08/12/2011 9:10 AM

oh boy, this guy again.

Why have a domesticated dog at all? They are man-made as well.

You aren't going to convince everyone on this forum to feed raw, buddy.  It works for some people, not for others.



 

Oh boy, another inflammatory response from another poorly-informed dog owner

Why have a domesticated dog? Well, Joey, there are a thousand reasons for having a domesticated dog, but the first question that pops into my own mind is why digress into an absolutely absurd argument as a defense mechanism for your feeding practices?

As far as us being "buddies" is concerned, I would honestly like to be buddies with you, but your sour attitude towards me for speaking nothing but the truth makes that pretty hard. Why don't you take your attitude towards my good advice in for a facelift, and I would be glad to be your buddy.

The simple truth is, these "designer kibbles" cost $3-$4/lb and will never provide the kind of overall nutrition profile, enzyme and micro-nutrient profile, that a premium raw diet will provide for less than half that amount.

And while die-hard stubborn types may stay "stuck in their ways" (because of nothing but their own laziness), believe this or not I have helped thousands of people to see the light ... who have thanked me profusely for having done so ... which is a lot more than you will ever be able to say "feeding kibble" and steadfastly turning your nose up at good advice.

I don't mean to offend ... I only mean to inform ... but sometimes this is a fine line to walk 

Cheers!

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08/12/2011 11:05 AM  

NVM...i used the search function and don't even want to mess with this guy...

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08/12/2011 11:14 AM  

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08/12/2011 11:25 AM  
Posted By GSPWI-ZL on 08/12/2011 11:05 AM

NVM...i used the search function and don't even want to mess with this guy...



 

Why is that?

And BTW, I am not asking you (or anyone) to "mess" with me ... LOL ... I am stating the plain truth that feeding raw is cheaper and better than feeding kibble.

Why are you so defensive about that?


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08/12/2011 11:49 AM  

::yawn::

thanks for stating the truth! we all appreciate it--sincerely.   You simply aren't going to convince everyone here or anywhere else to feed raw, no matter how great it is, how cheaply you can do it, or how many times you come on here to post about it, peddling your wares.   There are many people here on this forum that feed raw, and find a way to give requested input to others that have questions about best feeding practices.  They all do so without saying its far superior to every other way of feeding their dogs and without the condescending tone you always seem to use. 

Theres lots of things on my mind to say, and I apologize to the other forums members for taking the bait, but I think I speak for many people on this forum when I tell you we get it, and thanks for the info, now move along please, there are probably lots of other dog forums out there to troll.   We can still be buddies!! I promise

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08/12/2011 11:58 AM  
Posted By TheLittleBlackBook on 08/12/2011 11:25 AM
Posted By GSPWI-ZL on 08/12/2011 11:05 AM

NVM...i used the search function and don't even want to mess with this guy...



 

Why is that?

And BTW, I am not asking you (or anyone) to "mess" with me ... LOL ... I am stating the plain truth that feeding raw is cheaper and better than feeding kibble.

Why are you so defensive about that?

I'm going to be feeding Canidae - All life stages.. I will be adding raw with it, as well as veggies, yogurt, rice, eggs, etc. You have your means, and others have theirs. That's just how it is man. I don't want to argue with you or start a huge discussion. I am choosing Canidae because I'm happy with the results in the breeders dogs, you choose raw because you're happy with it in your dogs. That's all that matters.

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