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02/11/2011 2:55 PM  
Bev, I never say never, and I may very well have a different feeling then. I didn't have any problems with my sussex, even in the field, but who knows. I'd rather use an aversive than have a dead dog, and that's the truth. (I think at some point sussex were labeled among the dumbest dogs ever, and that's because they could really give a rats patootie what you think. Mine didn't even care about liver treats or steak, but I did eventually figure out his button and get him to work for me.)

With that said, the original poster was having an issue with her kid and her dog, and this started as a thread about dominance. I contributed because I don't think we should be worried about dominance so much as treating the behavior we see.

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02/12/2011 9:04 PM  

Just taking in all this great discussion, thanks for all the great information - though I know it wasn't all for my benefit

Just wanted to check back in and let everyone know that we haven't had a SINGLE growl, nudge, or inappropriate behavior with my 4 year old since I started having the kids eat before her and control her food.  I've also been more consistent with the door and NILF.  I've been reminding the kids to have her either 'sit' or 'down' before petting her (which I have always done).

Interesting about the flooding discussion.  We've been working on having her down/stay in front of high rabbit areas (we live in the desert, so rabbits are EVERYWHERE) and then recall her from down the street.  I sort of took from Cesar Millan in this because she nearly was yanking me off the dog scooter daily with the rabbit situation... so I started trying to desensitize her to rabbits so I wouldn't die on the Diggler at 25MPH.  We're about 6 months into it, and it's been a huge challenge... but "on by" is working much more consistently now after the desensitization process and making her down/stay for long periods of time in front of prey.

We're not hunters, we're more the running/camping/hiking type of family.  So is "flooding" just used in relation to fear or anxiety responses in dogs?  Why is desensitizing to cats/prey/rabbits any different?

Don't really need an answer, just thinking aloud.  We got Isa as an adult rescue and never owned a dog before in my life, so all of this is new to me. 


- Andrea
Isa is our rescued GSP
First time dog owner and all-the-time-mom to humans & Isa.
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02/13/2011 3:26 PM  
TOTALLY different. What you may be doing is setting her up for failure (if you put me in a room with chocolate on an empty belly, I might have a hard time resisting) so make sure she is having a lot of success before upping the ante, but that's not flooding. Flooding would be if you put her with scary things.

The approach should be the same, however. Slow and steady wins the race. ;)

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02/14/2011 4:49 AM  
The results have come fast. I didn't expect it. Don't let your guard down.

Insecurities don't disolve quickly.


"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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