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slowerUser is Offline
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12/29/2010 11:23 AM  

 Hello everyone just got a GSP 3 weeks ago and loving every minute of it. I got her from a breeder around me and noticed that it was extremely undersized (under fed) for its age. I've read lots of forums where people are saying their GSP is small but usually they are still 35+. My girl Izzy is 7 months old and weighs a whopping 22 lbs and wither height is around 18. I talked with my vet who told me she will grow a little more but this is about it? He said at age 9 months is it.  The breeder i got her from said he was wrong. Her parents were smaller, sire was 65 and dam was 45. He said she will be in the 40 range? Curious on what people here think. It is what it is but a 25lbs GSP i have not heard of. Thanks!!! wouldnt be a good 1st post without pics

 

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12/29/2010 12:07 PM  

Izzy is one cute puppy!  She is only 7 months.  I would expect her to grow a little taller and she will certainly fill out more.  However, if she was malnourished as a young puppy I would suspect this would stunt her growth and I don't think she will grow another 3 inches to make the standard size of a GSP, but you never know!

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12/29/2010 12:13 PM  
She is cute...sounds on the smaller side but does have a couple more months of growing...welcome to the website!

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12/29/2010 12:18 PM  

She'll definitely get bigger and even if she is always petite, she is a very nice looking girl.  And she's certainly in excellent shape now.  Look at that shiny coat!

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12/29/2010 12:25 PM  

Beautiful little pup!!! I wouldn't assume she was misfed/malnourished... It could be just a combination of genetics, agressive siblings, last to feed, whatever the case may be. She does sound short, but........ you have a pint sized firecracker--- but we absolutely love our little one. Our girl is very small for GSP standards too. She was obviously the runt when we picked her out but she was the cutest. Sometimes I wish she was a little more... substantial, but there are TONS of advantages to a small GSP. Easier to transport (I have small pickup truck with no cab and we can both go in the car and have Joey in there), better at cuddling on the couch, fits on your lap, eats less of the expensive food, poops less......etc.

at a year she got to about 34 pounds, at 1.5 yrs she is 37-38. From everything I've read after about 2 years they will fill out in the chest and pack on some pounds. I bet yours will end up around 40lbs at 2 yrs. Here is a pic of Joey at around 1 year:

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12/29/2010 12:31 PM  
Welcome to the wacky world of shorthairs. Izzy does sound a little small, but she will probably fill out some more.

FWIW -- our girl is 40 pounds soaking wet and is pure muscle (she is 6.5 yo). She is a little power house.

Joce and Rich
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12/29/2010 1:19 PM  
Gunner grew substantially between 7 and 9 1/2 months (how old he is now) and gained close to I'd say 10-15lbs. Cute pup

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slowerUser is Offline
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12/29/2010 1:38 PM  
thanks everyone for your responses. I figured she was going to be in that 40 range but was shocked when the vet said she would stay in the 20lbs range. When we got her she was pure bones and now she has filled in a little. She eats like a pig. Thanks again and i will post pics later on and show her growth! Either way she has been a great dog and wont leave our couch potato lab alone.
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12/29/2010 1:43 PM  
She's beautiful! Welcome to the forum.
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12/29/2010 3:25 PM  
She's a cutie!

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12/29/2010 6:35 PM  
She is beautiful! and looks exactly like our Chelsea whom we lost last Feb. :( We were looking and looking for another solid liver girl, but ended up with a black and white "Wendy"... go figure... welcome to the forum! And enjoy your pup!
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12/29/2010 6:46 PM  

Just love the small GSPs. Do love the big ones too, but smaller GSPs may be easier to handle???


Marie and Rocky, a tall, high energy GSP
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12/29/2010 7:47 PM  
She is beautiful! Love her coloring! I want another one! :)
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12/30/2010 5:10 AM  
Good lookin dog, good luck with her and enjoy :)
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12/31/2010 9:27 AM  

From my personal experience with other breeds of dog - GSD, Malinois, dalmatians, bulldogs, terriers they all grow tall and lanky, and then once they hit 12-18 months they start growing out instead of up. I know that my American Bulldog Abby was a skinny little thing at a year old, but by four, her chest was several inches wider thanks to muscle development, and her shoulders were heavy muscled as well. I adopted a dalmatian a few years ago from a family that showed me puppy pictures. At a year old she was rail thin, but by the time she hit 3 her shoulders and rear end were so well developed it made the rest of her look anorexic.

 

edited to add - altering a dog before their 1 year mark can cause the dog to grow taller but not produce as much muscle. I saw it first hand with a litter of pit bull pups. Several of the new owners altered their dogs as soon as possible, but others did not. The parents were good breeding stock and produced beautiful dogs, but the altered dogs didn't develope as much width and muscle, and also grew a little taller than their unaltered litter mates. Coincidence? Maybe, but I've seen it before to think it's not. Because of this, I refuse to alter any of my purchased dogs until they're at least 2 so I know without a doubt they're finished growing.


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12/31/2010 10:20 AM  
First 65 is pretty average for a male GSP and 45 is on the low end of a female. The standard says:

"Size--height of dogs, measured at the withers, 23 to 25 inches. Height of bitches, measured at the withers, 21 to 23 inches. Deviations of one inch above or below the described heights are to be severely penalized. Weight of dogs 55 to 70 pounds. Weight of bitches 45 to 60 pounds."

Your girl sounds like she may end up just below or right at the low end of the standard for bitches. Hard to tell though because she may also be a late bloomer and she does still have some growing time. Usually GSPs reach their height at around 9 months, but will continue to fill out and muscle up for a while. My girl, Halo, was a late bloomer and didn't even come into season until she was almost 2 years old. At a year old she still looked like a gangly puppy (although she had reached her full height) when others at that age had matured. I even pulled her out of the show ring because she looked so young against other bitches in her class. She really started to develop and fill out between 1 YO and 2 YO. Then after she had her first heat she matured even more. You didn't say if you have had Izzy spayed, but if she is spayed that may have slowed her growth down. If you haven't had her spayed then you may see a considerable change in Izzy once she comes in heat that first time. I agree with birdiedog on the spay neuter issue and do not like to see a bitch spayed before they come into season at least once or a dog neutered before they are about 18 months old.

In any case, you have a beautiful girl and should have a ton of fun with her no matter what size she ends up at.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

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slowerUser is Offline
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01/10/2011 6:40 PM  
Thanks again for everyones opinions. We actually just got her spaded a little over a week ago because that is what our vet recommended. She recovered quick from the surgery but has had a lot of lose stool. Been a lot of long nights for us! Anyways she has already packed on a few pounds and is as hyper as ever. She now ways 29lbs and filling in.
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01/11/2011 5:51 AM  
Slower -- I know Bo didn't do well on the pain meds. Made him really sick. You could give her some canned (pure) pumpkin or yogurt to help with that.

Joce and Rich
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01/11/2011 6:51 AM  
Slower, she is adorable. She looks like my Benelli. Just wondering though, most of the solid livers that I have seen have the white patch on their chest and "arm pits". Do all the solid livers have this?
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01/11/2011 7:14 AM  
She is gorgeous!!! We personally love the smaller dogs....just something about them! Have fun with her!

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