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champ188User is Offline
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09/01/2010 2:04 PM  

Rico is doing great.  He is learning really quick and has been a blast.  I have switched him over to Native dog food and that seems to have taken care of his digestive issues. 

What I want to check with you guys is how he acts around other dogs and people.  I have made sure I introduce him to any and everyone I come in contact with, but he will tuck his tail and growl at them untill he smells them then he is ok.  I have never had a dog that has taken this long to warm up to anyone, even if he has met them before.  Also, when hes around other dogs he is really scared and pees everywhere.  Just this weekend, we went to a friends house and they have a couple of dogs and when introduced to them, one showed some aggression to him and he immediately fell over and screamed really loud even though no one has touched him or anything. 

I understand being submissive, but it seems he is just plain scared.  I am not sure what is the cause but I need to find a way to make him comfortable.  Any suggestions will be appreciated. 

He is a great member of the family, but I am concerned to how he acts toward other people and dogs.

 

Thanks

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09/01/2010 2:44 PM  
With new people, have them ignore him completely until he settles, no eye contact or petting, totally ignore him. Let him get comfortable & say hello to them before they talk to him or pet him, he is very insecure from the sounds of it. (do not have them kneel down either, just sit or stand talking to you & pretending he doesn't exist....) Once he shows he isn't as afraid & approaches them sniffing, you can also try having them give him a treat.

Getting used to other dogs is a different issue, I would do it one on one and to start only with dogs who are not pushy or dominant, preferrably I would do it in a hunting scenerio, run on birds with a dog that will ignore him and just hunt. (if you hunt that is.....) If he is very birdy and has prey drive, that will overcome his fear quickly & make meeting new dogs a positive thing, build his confidence levels. Just my 2 cents FWIW!!!!
champ188User is Offline
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09/01/2010 2:51 PM  

That makes alot of sense.  Thank you. I do plan on hunting him, I just haven't introduced him to birds yet do to this........I want to do it right so I don't want to make him scared of that, just want to do it right.  I will try that. 

 

Anymore info is greatly appreciated.

 

Derrick

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09/01/2010 2:52 PM  
I agree with what zodiak posted completely. The only thing I would add is get into a training class with him, maybe obedience as it will help build his confidence. You may end up just sitting and watching for a few classes until he gets comfortable. Also, be sure us use a very high value treat. You need to find something that will overcome his insecurity and will keep him focused.

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09/01/2010 3:25 PM  
He is insecure. It won't be a problem unless you let it continue.
I agree with the hunting aspect. He will build confidnce thru prey drive.
The less you are vocal around a dog like this the better. The coddling is what reenforces and builds insecurities. Instead of stooping to talk with people, walk on by. Once he is not in a position of having to 'confront' people he may see them as less of a threat.

Good luck, let us know what happens

Francine


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09/01/2010 5:42 PM  

I do agree that you have to ignore that behavior, don't do the "aww poor pup, its okay" with him.  It does reinforce the behavior you are trying to change.  My Maple is not submissive with dogs, but early on we would  have growling issues at people if a single person would approach, or if someone was wearing a hat, or an umbrella or anything that looked different to her.  We worked at the no eye contact and she would get treated, not really giving her the chance to growl.  We would continue working on with these encounters for a few weeks, ultimately having the stranger giving her a treat and then slacking off on the treating gradually.  This worked rather quickly.  Maple is not like our lab who goes up to anyone to get attention, but she does not growl or avoid them, but is now rather indifferent about them, which to me is perfect.  I don't worry about her jumping on anyone.  Unlike the lab I have that wants to jump up and give everyone a kiss right on the lips.  Now her paws will not touch you, just her nose right on the face.  Credit for that trick is given to my daughter, who was then 12 who thought it was really cute trick.

I agree with Bev on the obedience training.  It gives you a good atmosphere of other dogs in training to introduce your dog to others that are there for the same reason.   Even if you start out with a "pet training class" first.  This gets you around people that like dogs and will help you with the people approach issue as well as the socialization with other dogs in a controlled environment.

Now I do not hunt, and from how it sounds, if the other dogs will ignore your dog, that would help with the socialization with other dogs.



Texas BelleUser is Offline
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09/01/2010 7:10 PM  
Not all hunting dogs will ignore their brace mate. The older ones that know what they are out there to do and have the drive will usually get out and be so busy hunting they do not pay much attention to the other dog. However, if you get braced with a young dog or a dog with less drive they may get out their and try to play with the other dog or just follow it around. So, you have to be careful about who you might be braced with. I personally would want a more controlled environment to start off with in working with this dog which is why I suggested an obedience class. JMHO

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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champ188User is Offline
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09/01/2010 7:39 PM  
Thanks, this is a lot of help. It is good to be here getting great info from you guys. Thanks so much. This is my first GSP and I am trying to minimize my screw ups with him.
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09/02/2010 5:20 AM  
I agree on the training classes as well. Even though I know how to train a dog & didn't really need the classes, it was a great bonding experience for me and my rescue GSP Layla & she gained a lot of confidence from the classes.

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