|
| Author |
Messages |
|
Gerryson
Posts:3

 |
| 08/15/2010 11:14 AM |
|
Hello All
I have been reading this forum for a couple months now, however I have not been able to find the exact awsner to a perticular question I have been wondering. I recently bought my first apartment with my wife and I have always wanted a GSP, and now feel, after about 8 years of waiting, that I am finacially capable of caring for. I also understand that they require vigorious exercise on a daily basis, which is one of the reasons I love them so much, since I am an avid outdoorsman, hiking and jogging numerous times a week. I would be able to take my GSP on a 45 minute run in the morning and when home from work (about 8 hours later) would be able to go for a longer hike or walk. This would be everyday, without exception, and if for some reason I wasnt available, my wife also runs and hikes frequently. However, my question is this, being a dog lover, I would never buy a GSP simply because I selffishly "wanted" one, without thinking of the dog first, and if it will be happy and content in its new environment. My apartment is on the ground floor, is 1100 sq feet and located in the very corner of the building. If i choose to get a GSP, and put for the time crate training, obidience training, excerising constantly, will my GSP be happy? Will it bark all day long and make my neighbours hate me? Is this a realistic thing to do, or is it just generally a bad idea? I appriciate peoples honest awsners, since this is first and formost about having a happy and content companion.
Thank you in advance, Gerryson |
|
|
|
|
Gerryson
Posts:3

 |
| 08/15/2010 11:21 AM |
|
ps, sorry in advance for the gross amount of spelling errors in my above post! lol |
|
|
|
|
Texas Belle Austin, TX
 MH Posts:7834


 |
| 08/15/2010 12:07 PM |
|
| Apartment living makes it harder owning a GSP, but not impossible. I know several folks on here live in apartments in the city and manage just fine. Sounds like you will have the exercise and training covered, and you are asking the right questions, so I believe you and your wife could make it work. Are you looking for a puppy or a grown dog? Might make a difference. A grown dog you could start running with now, but it might come with baggage that makes it harder to adjust. That and rescues will not usually send a GSP home with someone who does not have a yard. A puppy you have to deal with the puppy training and antics, but would be raised in your situation so would probably adjust better. You couldn't start running with a puppy though until their growth plates closed somewhere between a year for females and a year and a half for males. |
|
Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
|
|
Gerryson
Posts:3

 |
| 08/15/2010 12:20 PM |
|
Texas Belle,
Yes I have considered both, and clearly they both come with pro's and cons. I play on living in a condo or a townhouse for quite some time, so a puppy sounds best to me (since it will grow up in a condo), However, that being said, I am more then willing to adopt, if that suits my needs better. Even though i have done lots of research, nothing beats the opinions of people who actually OWN gsp's. By far my biggest worry isnt the dog chewing my funiture, or it going to the bathroom inside when its a puppy, that all comes with the territory, it is the barking. Since I live in a condo, it just isnt fair to my neighbours for my dog to be barking all day long while I am at work, and if there is no way around that, then I have a real problem  |
|
|
|
|
Texas Belle Austin, TX
 MH Posts:7834


 |
| 08/15/2010 1:52 PM |
|
I won't say GSPs don't bark, because they do, but my gang (I have three right now) tend to bark only when someone is in my yard (and they can see or hear them), at the front door (doorbell, knock or they hear them), when kids or dogs or both are playing out front and they see them (they want to join in the fun), or when they see a squirrel. Other than those times, they are pretty quiet. Now if your apartment were near a high traffic area and the dog could hear or see people passing, then they would bark. Also, if a dog isn't trained to deal with the separation they will sometimes bark when their master leaves. If you handle a puppy right though, you should not run into the separation issues. Also, if all else fails, bark collars do work. Good luck on your quest! You are very smart to think this through. |
|
Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
|
|
JMSGunner Bucks County, PA
 MH Posts:785


 |
| 08/15/2010 2:31 PM |
|
My boyfriend and I just bought our first house and it's smaller then your apartment! We have about 925 sq ft. So that won't be an issue for you. But, I don't know what I'd do without my yard. It makes it much easier we also have 2+ acres for our pup to run around and get some energy out and it's easy to just open the door and off he goes. As for crating, we started the week after we got our pup as I was home recovering from wisdom teeth extraction the first week. He does cry for a minute (I can hear him from outside) but stops soon after. Gunner barks, alot, ususally for attentionbut I don't think he barks when we aren't home. Our neighbors would've told us, I think! I think you sound like you'd be a great dad and I bet with your active lifestyle and the dedication you seem to have for a GSP you'd be fine.  |
|
Jackie & Gunner
Impressive Gewehr von Catskill 4/19/2010
|
|
|
erikacarrillo La Honda, CA
 MH Posts:229

 |
| 08/15/2010 4:45 PM |
|
| I would make sure to find somewhere to let him/her off leash. Walking on leash is great, but sometimes isn't enough. |
|
|
|
|
Shelley Bristol, UK
 MH Posts:704


 |
| 08/16/2010 2:21 AM |
|
| I work full time, and I didn't want to leave my pup for the 8.5 hours I would be away from the house, so when it would be neccasary (spelling!!), for him to be alone I took him to the office, and if he was an adult dog I think he would have a lot harder time adjusting to that routine (ie being quiet, staying asleep out of sight under my desk for 4 hours at a time - no mean feat for a gsp puppy let me tell you!) |
|
|
|
|
newnenglander
 SH Posts:57


 |
| 08/16/2010 7:36 AM |
|
Just another perspective - it's going to depend soemwhat on the dog's personality. Our Buddy made us all crazy in an apartment, even with somebody home all day and 2 hrs of daily exercise...so we moved when he was 4 months old. He's got an extreme appetite for off-leash running and could easily go all day. |
|
|
|
|
pixie bee
 MH Posts:4448


 |
| 08/16/2010 8:02 AM |
|
Much depends on the temperment of the dog but the most responsibility falls to the primary care giver. Our dogs don't get daily vigorous exercise,are taught manners from day one and are well behaved house dogs. If you are willing to be consistent and firm with raising a pup/dog then I think it is doable. |
|
"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
|
|
|
boognish Idaho
 MH Posts:105


 |
| 08/16/2010 10:00 AM |
|
| That's more exercise than I give my dogs. As long as you have quick access to a piece of grass for your new pup to do its business, I say go for it. A dog living in an apartment that is walked/ran daily like you plan to do is going to be a lot healthier mentally than a dog with a big backyard who is rarely taken out of it by her owners. A yard is nice, but it's no substitute for one on one interaction and the chance to explore and sniff outside of the confines of the backyard fence. |
|
|
|
|
rockspring maryland
 MH Posts:62


 |
| 08/16/2010 11:52 AM |
|
We had someone in our training group that lives in NY city and works his dog in Central park. He would rent a SUV and drive to Md for our Sat bird group. |
|
|
|
|
pixie bee
 MH Posts:4448


 |
| 08/16/2010 12:48 PM |
|
NYC and the boroughs are very green with plenty of places to run and swim your dog. MD is quite the trip, I hope he was attending the 2 NAVHDA clubs closer to him and some in NJ. |
|
"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
|
|
|
Rose
 MH Posts:362

 |
| 08/16/2010 12:51 PM |
|
We have Casey in a 1100 top level of a house with a tenant downstairs. He isn't allowed in the bedroom or kitchen. Works as long as we take him out everyday. He lets us know when he needs a good run. We are lucky to be close to several large off leash dog parks. Or we go for a drive out to the country and walk along the irrigation canals or coulees. Or jogging along city streets. I think the variety helps keep his brain stimulated. He doesn't do much when we are at home, just lies at our feet. Does a lot of talking in the morning though. We had to train him not to whine/bark when we are gone. In the beginning, we would come home and the halls were full of moist doggie breath from the barking. Now it's much better - a "I'll be back" command works well before we leave - he doesn't make a peep anymore. Plus he gets a walk before we go out. BTW, I have a funny story about apartment living - one day our friend recieves a note slipped under the door from the lady below her. The lady writes that she can hear our friend slam the toilet seat and requests her to be more quiet. The lady goes on to file a complaint against our friend about the noise, and points out specific dates. Here's the catch - our friend works out of town and is not even there on those days, and barely there in general! |
|
|
|
|
Marie Wisconsin
 MH Posts:2721


 |
| 08/16/2010 1:15 PM |
|
| With our first GSP Poge, from a pup, lived in apartments, town houses, and whole houses. No matter what, Poge was great when left alone as long as he was exercised and had a long walk in the morning and at night. (Two long walks a day.) Would find a field area where I could toss long tennis balls for him to chase. Poge got on our work schedule and was always good when we were away. The neighbors, living below us or beside us never complained about him barking when we were gone. I always alerted our neighbors when we would be gone at work and to let us know if Poge barked enough to disturb them. They always told me they never heard him barked. No matter where you live, you will do fine with a GSP with you and your wife's active life style. |
|
Marie and Rocky, a tall, high energy GSP http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab18/Annette_Merryfield/100_0285.jpg?t=1287205231 |
|
|
TessaGA Georgia
 MH Posts:2387


 |
| 08/16/2010 2:27 PM |
|
I live in a small 1-bedroom apartment - no yard - in town and am doing fine with my GSP. Not having a yard is a huge challenge though, more so with this breed, and, admittingly, more so than I first thought. I am lucky enough to have access to areas where I can run her off-leash but we can't go there every day. That means two long walks a day which still isn't really enough to release their steam especially when young. In a nutshell: it's not ideal but it is possible, if you are truly committed and provide regular off-leash activity (Tessa's minimum is 3-4 times a week). Of course, they don't die if there is one week with NO activity (as we have witnessed during the 10 day post-spay recovery). And what they really thrive on is human companionship. |
|
To live without dogs would mean accepting a form of blindness. [Thomas McGuane]
 |
|
|
leebo5566 Atlanta, GA
 MH Posts:87


 |
| 08/17/2010 5:18 AM |
|
I won't give you advice but just share my experience since I'm pretty new to GSPs. I've had my GSP for about two months and he is only 3 and 1/2 months old. He is incredibly smart and incredibly energetic. I have a fenced backyard and that is a huge help, but I think he thrives on companionship more than anything. If I don't run him he is hyper, but if I don't get to spend as much time with him, then he gets crazy! Again, he is very much a puppy and still pretty new, but it seems like time spent is as important as energy spent. |
|
|
|
|
Texas Belle Austin, TX
 MH Posts:7834


 |
| 08/17/2010 8:38 AM |
|
| IMHO the most important thing to a shorthair is time spent with their people. That is why they are known as velcro dogs. It is also why I won't sell a puppy to someone who plans to kennel the dog (and I am not talking about using a crate in the house). My dogs are my family and live in the house and I want my puppies to be family members in their new family as well. |
|
Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
|
|
MissGlory Kailua, HI
Posts:10


 |
| 08/22/2010 12:27 AM |
|
We've had our GSP Glory for about 5 months now and we live in a 1000 sq ft condo on the 2nd floor. Although it can be a huge hassle, we understood going into this that we HAD to get her out for exercise at least twice daily. We do have a yard in the back of our complex, so every morning around 6am and evening around 6pm we throw the tennis ball and let her run full throttle for about 30 minutes. This really tuckers her out and seems to keep her calm in between. On weekends we take her to the dog park, or out on the Kaneohe Bay sandbar to let her ears fly freely! If you plan on running it will be no problem at all. I think we lucked out too in the way that Glory is very well behaved, doesn't stray while off her leash and she was the laid back one out of the litter. Although I would prefer to have acres for her to run as she pleases, I live in Hawaii so space is limited. We make it work! I have no doubt Glory is happy and healthy, which makes me happy too. Good luck. If you're willing to give your GSP what it needs-lots of exercise- you don't have to have a huge house with a yard.
As far as barking...as soon as we got her home we got her used to the crate. Left the door open for the first week so she could go in and out as she pleased. We fed her in there, gave treats in there- basically made it feel like Disneyland. At night when she would whine my husband would say "HUSH!" in a stern, low voice (didn't yell). She learned that daddy meant business and eventually the whining stopped. We let our surrounding neighbors know we got a puppy as a courtesy and never had a problem. It never even progressed to barking. She only barks when we play with her. While we're at work we give her toys that keep her busy. I also think it's imperative to prevent separation anxiety so your doggy doesn't bark while you're away. |
|
|
|
|
gharner Middletown, PA
 MH Posts:565


 |
| 08/22/2010 9:31 AM |
|
| So, I don't stay in an appartment yet...I'm going to community college now and living at home, but next fall Ill be transferring schools, and needing an apartment. Dax is going to be going with although my parents are going to miss him like crazy haha. The good thing is where I'll be going to school theres lots of green, and plenty of mountains/gamelands to hike,run, and hunt. We had a little taste of apartment living when we went on vacation....5 people, 4 dogs in a ONE ROOM hotel. It was pretty crowded, but it was probably smaller than an average apartment... and there were lots of people and dogs to move around. All in all it worked great and Dax was well behaved. I believe if you have time to exercise and keep firm rules it would all work out. Good luck on your decision! |
|
|
|
|
|
| You are not authorized to post a reply. |
|
|
|
ActiveForums 3.7
|
You must be logged in to use this module.
|