therozypozy
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| 07/28/2010 12:27 PM |
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After searching the right food that Maple could eat and keep down along with maintain a good weight for her, I settled on Evo. This was after having issues with her being under weight and throwing up kibble and going trying a vet prescribed diet that was supposed to be easy to digest. Now I understand that P&G has purchase Innova. Anyone on this list feeding a raw diet and maintaining a good weight on your GSP? I would be afraid to feed them quail thinking the next time she is to retrieve one, she would eat it instead. |
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pixie bee
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| 07/28/2010 12:45 PM |
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Hi and welcome to the forum.
Can you give more of a history? How old is Maple,when did you get her,what foods did you try and can it be possible she was throwing up due to eating to fast?
Also, many GSPs are "skinny". It's sorta a relative term.
You don't have to worry about her eating game b/c you feed game based diets. If that were the case I'd be in real big trouble. For about 3 months during deer season my dogs eat exclusively venison - heart,lungs,organs,meat and bones, along with other ingredients to balnace it - raw egg with shells,some veggies,flax seed oil and some other good stuff.
Raw diets cost about the same - difference is in prep time.
Maybe you can show a picture - we love pictures.
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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therozypozy
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| 07/28/2010 1:07 PM |
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Thanks for the welcome.
I have had Maple since she was 8 wks. She is now 6 years old. The other kibble we have tried were Eukanuba, Iams and Blue Buffalo. With the Evo, we also mix with Orijen, but our dogs do not like the Orijen alone, but love the Evo red meat. The local specialty pet store is no longer going to carry Orijen. She gave the reason of shipping cost, but I think it is store area that she can use for some other product that she sells. So with P&G taking over Innova and the local store not carrying the Orijen, just thinking of changing to something else.
We compete in agility and obedience and she is my jogging partner, so she is quite active. I certainly do not want her overweight and want to keep that tummy tuck, but before eating the Evo, her ribs were quite noticable.
I have never fed raw, but now leaning that way. I know Maple loves it as she has stolen a steak off the counter and well, she looked quite satisfied after! Of course my husband was not too happy about it.
I have added a picture to my profile. Not sure when it will show up. |
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gsp-fan AZ
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| 07/28/2010 1:21 PM |
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Welcome: I feed Innova and am planning on changing with the sell to P&G. I am going to try both Earthborn Holistic Primitive Natural and one from the Fromm Dog Food group. Both made with ingredients & manufactured in the US. I tried raw for awhile but with traveling a storage space became an issue. I looked into the pre-packaged raw but with feeding 4 dogs it was very expensive. |
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therozypozy
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| 07/28/2010 1:33 PM |
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Here is a photo of my Maple. I also have 2 other dogs, a border collie (really my daughter's dog) and a chocolate lab.
I agree with the traveling thing, it would be difficult to feed raw while on the road.
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revlistless Illinois
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| 07/28/2010 2:54 PM |
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| I feed evo both the kibble and the canned food. I talked to the owner of the feed store about the P&G purchase of Evo. From what he understood P&G learned from other experiences and has decided to leave the manufacturing proceses alone and at the same locations. I am still feeding Evo till I can notice a change in quality or I get some concrete infomation that the quality has changed. |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 07/28/2010 4:50 PM |
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Hey welcome Roz!!! I was feeding EVO and loved it, but found another food that is not yet widely on the market that is awesome so I changed. That said I did contact Innova (called and talk to them) in case the food I am using now didn't pan out. They assured me that there are no plans to change the formula of any of their foods. If you are happy with EVO stay with it and just watch for any changes in ingredients. Even if they were to change I would think it would take a while. If they do change another good food I really like is Wellness. I still use the canned foods (Venison and Lamb) to mix into the evening meal. It is just as good as the Innova products and they have an equivalent to EVO, it is called Wellness Core I believe. Raw is tough to feed because it is almost impossible to get the right proportions of vitamins, minerals, protein, fat, etc. especially for a high performance dog couple that with the time to prepare and every time I look at a raw diet I decide against it. Also, traveling is a real pain with a raw diet. Glad to see you on here as this is a excellent site for getting good feedback on anything GSP. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
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therozypozy
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| 07/28/2010 5:22 PM |
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Thanks Bev! I thought I would have sometime anyway even if P&G wants to change anything in the Innova brand. I have a few people I know that do agility that feed raw. I may mix it up some, perhaps not feeding totally raw, but adding some fresh meat to one of their meals instead of trying to get the Orijen now that my local store is not going to carry it. Maple has done really well on the Evo as well as Splash (the border collie) who is the finicky eater and of course Wonder (the lab) has the prettiest coat ever on this Evo. They are all fed just the right amount as they are all fit and trim. Most people that see our lab think that she is just 1 or 2 and she is 8 1/2 years. People would say that about Maple, except that she is so grey in the face, she is perceived as older. So needless to say I have been pleased with the EVO, just upset at the sellout to P&G and wanted to check around to see if I have to make a transition to something else, what my options may be.
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zodiakgsps NW PA
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| 07/28/2010 5:45 PM |
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| Have you tried Taste of the Wild??? I really like it and my competetive dogs do great on it & a mix of raw. Much better priced than Evo also, I usd to feed that & carry it in my shop. |
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therozypozy
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| 07/28/2010 8:32 PM |
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I have heard of Taste of the Wild. Someone else had mentioned that on FB. So you do mix raw with kibble? I am leaning towards that so that when I do travel out of town, I can go strickly kibble if bringing raw would be too much. I have signed up for a forum on feeding raw and gosh, they are so against kibble, they say do not feed it at all. Of course, they have a picture of the dogs feeding on a large carcass out of wheel barrel and well, I don't think my neighbors would appreciate that in my little old house in the city of Mandeville. I think they would frown upon that more so than the weaves and jumps I have in the yard for some agility training. It was bad enough when I was throwing a dead quail in the water for Maple to retrieve for the NRD title she has. |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 07/28/2010 10:26 PM |
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| Roz - I actually do mix a variety of fresh meats, fruits and veggies into what I feed my dogs, and sometimes I use raw meat, but more often it is cooked. My base is the kibble which I feed plain in the morning. For dinner I add in the canned venison or lamb from Wellness and then supplement with a variety of things including sardines, yogurt, fresh vegetables, fresh fruits like blueberries, any left over meats that I may have, etc. It is a nice treat for the dogs who love it and it adds some good nutrients to a good base diet. I want that strong base diet because when I a traveling it makes it a whole lot easier to feed them. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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lfb UK
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| 07/29/2010 4:12 AM |
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| I feed raw + kibble mixed to boy dog (girl dog has food allergy issues!). He used to thrive on raw green tripe + kibble but now has raw lean beef mince after a bout of pancreatitis so no more rich foods. Don't know about in US, but here I buy blocks of frozen raw meat from the pet shop in bulk (loads of variety; chicken, rabbit, lamb etc) that just need defrosting and put in the bowl. Just don't make the mistake of defrosting tripe in the microwave and warming it up too much - not great first thing in the morning! |
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Gunnar
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| 07/29/2010 9:49 AM |
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Lots of info here on dog food and diets. I hope it helps. For what it's worth I feed my guys Nutrisource. http://www.dogaware.com/diet/index.html |
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ChessieGirl Dahlonega,GA
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| 07/29/2010 12:25 PM |
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Our gsp Chessie has been on a raw+kibble mix since she was a pup and she is now 8 months and it has worked great for her. She is on a mix of wellness puppy and the Blue Ridge Beef puppy mix. She has never had a problem with her weight and loves it.
Here is a pic from 4th of July weekend.

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lfb UK
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| 07/29/2010 1:16 PM |
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| It certainly seems to be doing her coat some good! That's one beautiful, shiny GSP. |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 07/29/2010 1:21 PM |
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| Chessie - I am confused. You said you feed a raw + kibble mix and then you said you feed a mix of Wellness puppy and Blue Ridge beef puppy???? Can you clarify? Also, I would be interested in hearing more about the raw portion of the diet. Thanks!! |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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ChessieGirl Dahlonega,GA
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| 07/29/2010 1:45 PM |
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We feed her the wellness puppy dry kibble. And we add in the raw(blue ridge beef). They make a raw mix that is called the puppy mix which is beef and tripe. here is a link to there site. http://blueridgebeef.com/products-raw-beef-chicken.html. She gets a mix of both twice a day, and yes it does make her coat shiny. |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 07/29/2010 1:48 PM |
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| Thanks for the clarification. Sounds like a nice diet and certainly the proof is in the dog and her coat. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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JMSGunner Bucks County, PA
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| 07/29/2010 4:20 PM |
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I have heard from several people (specifically the breeder - well atleast the sire's) about taking puppies off of puppy food around 6 months or they start to grow a little wonky. Any trurth to this? |
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Jackie & Gunner
Impressive Gewehr von Catskill 4/19/2010
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 07/29/2010 8:20 PM |
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| I have never fed puppy food past 6 months and with Halo's upcoming litter I have no intentions on ever starting the puppies on puppy food. I will be using a good all stages adult food instead. If you look at ingredients there really is very little difference between puppy food and a good high quality all stages adult food. In fact there is allot of info out on the web that suggests puppy food was instigated to please the owners more than the puppies. Think good marketing and if you look at th ingredients it makes sense. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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