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RemyDogUser is Offline
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06/07/2010 2:43 AM  

I've spent loads of time over the last week reading through posts, so I figured it was time to say hello!

A little over a week ago, our family adopted a 9 year old GSP named Remy. I grew up with GSPs and have always loved the breed, and since we just bought a house, I had started thinking it would be really nice to have a dog. But then I realized that trying to raise a puppy with our hectic life would be crazy, so I put that idea on the back burner. I guess sometimes life has different plans for you, though, because a couple of weeks ago, I was scanning craigslist and happened to see an ad for a GSP. I look through CL on a regular basis to see if I can refer people to various rescues, so I wasn't actually looking for a dog! I couldn't resist contacting the person with this ad, though, and long story short, we visited Remy, she seemed wonderful so she came home with us.

We have 5 kids in the house a lot of the time (my 3 older ones go back and forth between us and their dad) and they range in age from 16 years to 4 months. Remy's fantastic with the kids. We're working on training our 3 year old because he can get obnoxious and Remy has the patience of a saint with him.

It's obvious that she was obedience trained because she knows a lot of commands. She is even excellent with "drop it" when she chooses to bring us a gift, like a dirty sock. She's also completely house trained and trustworthy when we leave her. We both work at home and we don't leave her alone much because she's a good car rider, so she's fun to take with us if we're going some place that's dog friendly.

Her two "issues" are that 1) she has poor leash manners, and 2) she has storm anxiety. I tried a Gentle Leader with her and she does well, but as soon as I switch back to her regular collar, she's right back to pulling, so now I'm trying a prong collar to see if she can learn to walk better. For the anxiety, I tried melatonin and it really seems to make a big difference for her. If a storm is right on top of us, she wants to be in a cave, so she goes to my daughters' closet, but if the storm isn't close by, she shakes, pants, paces and tries to dig at the carpet. The melatonin doesn't completely relieve the anxiety, but it seems to allow her to at least lie down in the living room where we are.

She is a bit underweight at 39 lbs. so we need to figure out how to put a few pounds on her. She was being fed Beneful with Old Roy wet food, but I've been switching her over to Pro Plan gradually. I have had to add some wet Pro Plan to entice her to eat, but I'm trying to phase that out. I haven't measured her so I don't know how tall she is, but she's fairly petite for a GSP. Her ribs show a bit too much, thus the goal to increase weight. She's not terribly food driven so this is hard.

Here's a pic of her in "her" bean bag, showing what she thinks of early mornings....

 

 

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06/07/2010 6:10 AM  
She is adorable! SO good of you to rescue her. She sounds like a great dog.

I have friends who use Rescue Remedy for their dog's storm fears. http://www.rescueremedy.com/pets/

Good luck!

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06/07/2010 6:32 AM  
Not even seeing all of her she looks just like my Blitz! So of course I think she is adorable. I think you will have great success with the prong collar I use one on my 6 month old GSP and my 6 year old son walks him with no problems and he was a puller till we put the prong collar on him.

I have no experience with dogs that don't so well with storms, all my life every dog I have had has been fine. I have heard you should not baby them and kind of ignore their behavior cuz that helps settle them more than the constant "baby" talk. When it is so bad there are a lot of meds to try. If you run out of meds or need something in a pinch I believe you can use Benedryl.


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06/07/2010 8:22 AM  
remydog, I have to laugh because my older gal (now 10) covers her face with her paws too. She doesn't like the bean bag chair but my almost 2 year old loves hers. Sounds like she is fitting in well! Satin Balls worked well for putting on that little bit of extra weight for my younger gal. The older one doesn't really need it. She likes to have her ProPlan moistened with some warm water and that works for me instead of putting canned food in with it.
You will find there are many GREAT resource people on this forum.
Thanks for adopting her. She is beautiful!

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06/07/2010 9:03 AM  
Very brave of your family to take in a 9 year old dog. A week is not much time for her to adjust, keep up with the patience, she may learn not to pull, but I don't see anything wrong with keeping on the GentleLeader forever. Storms are tough to overcome if the dog has been reacting this way for years. Storm anxiety sometimes develops in dogs who were kenneled outside when severe thunder storms occured. Probably not much you can do. At 9 I don't see anything wrong with soothing her. Provide her with her kennel instead of your daugher's closet.This way she can be with you, it may ease the anxiety. Try getting her to do something before or at first sign of the anxiety and keep her busy thru it.
If it is really severe you will have a tough time keeping the anxiety away which is a sign of its severity,but gives you a clue as to how to go about tackeling it.
Maybe you can post a picture of her standing so we can see her frame. This way you can get a better idea of what skinny is.

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06/07/2010 9:04 AM  
About time another Richmond-er shows their face.
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06/07/2010 9:39 AM  
I love the photo that you posted. My dog does that in the mornings, too. It's too funny. I can almost hear him saying, "Awww mom. It's too bright in here. C'mon, please let me sleep a little longer!" :-)

I don't have any insight into storm anxiety, but I purchased the Easy Walk (http://www.premier.com/View.aspx?page=dogs/products/collars/easywalk/description) a few months ago and absolutely love it. It's made by the same company as the Gentle Leader; but this device is a harness. It's really easy to get on and off, my dog doesn't pull at all with it on, and I can leave him in when he's off leash and he doesn't mind. I even put a tag on it so he doesn't need to wear his normal neck collar on neighborhood walks (all the clinging of metal drives me nuts!). I know some dogs don't like the Gentle Leader across their snout, and some people see it and think that it's some type of muzzle. I also don't mind if we have to use the Easy Walk forever since I don't mind putting it on my dog and he certainly doesn't mind walking, running, playing, sitting or sleeping with it on!

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06/07/2010 9:45 AM  
That picture sums up the personality you describe! She is adorable, covered face and all LOL How wonderful that you took in an older dog, so many times they get over looked, yet they have so much to offer a home who simply isn't up for the puppy crazies and house breaking issues. BRAVO to you!!
I have a very small female too, Xara only goes 39 lbs herself, course she's 11 months old too and hasn't filled out yet. I was told over and over again by show folk around here to mix a bit of frozen Bil Jak in her food to help with the weight. I have been doing that and she has put on 3 lbs over the past few months. I don't use much of it, perhaps 3/4 of a cup mixed in her normal food once a day. She loves it and it hasn't had any adverse effects on her at all.
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06/07/2010 9:49 AM  
Welcome to the forum. Lovely dog and thank you for rescuing. My oldest girl did not like thunderstorms and I used de-sensitivity training with her, but she was a lot younger and did not have years of being anxious with thunder. She still does not like, thunder, but she doesn't get upset either. I have read (but never tried) that you can put peppermint essential oil on their foot pads and it helps them stay calm. Might be worth a try as it is pretty easy and smells good too.

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RemyDogUser is Offline
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06/07/2010 11:42 AM  
Thank you all for the warm welcome! We feel like we lucked into finding Remy because she's such a good girl. I think we actually would be hard pressed to find a dog that would be better for our family! She seems to have adjusted very quickly, which really surprised me. I don't have a single complaint about her behavior and am sad/surprised that her family could give her up after all the obvious work to turn her into a great dog, but OTOH, I'm kind of glad they did because we benefit.

I appreciate all of the suggestions for the storm anxiety. My parents currently have 4 GSPs and 1 has the same storm anxiety, so Mom was able to give me some tips and mentioned some of the ones you guys have come up. I forgot to say that I have been putting Rescue Remedy in her water; whether it helps or not, eh, I'm not sure. Given her age, I'm thinking the anxiety is probably pretty ingrained so trying to overcome it may be really hard. She will even shake for a bit if there's a storm in a movie on tv! Since we're in the middle of thunderstorm season, I think our plan is to get through the summer in any way possible and then through the winter, try desensitizing her.

Matt, it's good to see someone else from VA on here since it seems that GSPs aren't that common in this area. We have a farm out in Goochland, too, so I'm going to take her out and see if she wants to run in the pasture with the cows. Oddly enough, last night when we were on our way to SO's parents' house, we passed a house with a GSP standing right out front!

MelB, thanks for the rec for the Bil Jak -- I'll have to give that a try. I'm glad we're not the only ones that have birds and bird dogs in the same house, too. We have 2 parrotlets and at first Remy was very interested in them, but I only had to tell her to leave it a couple of times and now she totally ignores the birds, even when they start yelling.

WiscoCooper, fortunately I was prepared by this forum when I bought the Gentle Leader and got the black instead of the red that would have matched her regular collar and leash. I had it on her the other day when we went to the dog friendly outdoor mall and there were a bunch of kids petting her; one of them asked if she had to wear "that thing" because she bites! I explained what it is and the little girl seemed satisfied, but it's kind of sad that people make that assumption. I may have to try a harness, too. SO keeps laughing because every other day, I seem to be buying a new dog leash/collar/toy. What can I say? At her age, I think she deserves to be spoiled!

I'll have to take a pic of her standing up, but I figured I'd toss in this one:



That's our 3 year old with the Queen of Patience.

PS All of your dogs are so beautiful! I guess growing up with GSPs is probably what makes me like them so much, but I'm still amazed at what graceful creatures they are.
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06/07/2010 1:12 PM  

Great to hear that you adopted an older dog! The best dog I ever had was a Mastiff/Lab mix that we picked up at the pound. She was seven or eight years old, and weak and atrophied from sitting on the hard concrete floor of her cell for 6 months. She looked like she was well over 10 years old when we got her. We basically thought we were just getting her so she could come out to our property and die with some dignity and love. But she perked right up, put on some muscle and gave us great joy for almost five more years. Everyone wants a puppy, so I admire you for taking in an older dog.

I think the leash manners can probably be corrected with a lot of patience and repetition, but I'm not so sure about the thunder storms at this point; pretty late in her life to begin reconditioning her. Lots of love and treats when those events occur would be my prescription. I desensitised my pup to loud noises by slamming cabinet doors when he was eating, just to associate loud noises with a pleasurable time. Maybe you could use that approach, starting small, like clapping your hands when she gets her favorite food/treat, and very gradually progressing to louder noises.

I've also had great luck with my hard pulling GSP using the Gentle Leader. With it he went from being extremely difficult to walk to behaving pretty well off leash, and getting better every day. I went over basic healing instruction with the gentle leader until I felt like he had it down pretty well, then strapped on the e collar for the off-leash correction. For me it was just a good tool to get him to settle down and focus on the task at hand.

Good luck and keep us informed.

 

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06/07/2010 1:55 PM  
Welcome to the forum & welcome back to the wild & wonderful world of GSPs!

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06/07/2010 4:37 PM  
Congratulations on welcoming Remy in to your heart and home. I'm sure that she will provide you with many years of unconditional love.

We have a 3 year old male GSP, Gator, who we acquired when he was 3 months old. Prior to coming to live with us, he lived outside, so it was an adjustment for him to live in a house, with people. We got him on July 4th, and throughout the summer, he would get scared of storms, and he would literally leap into my husband's lap for security and reassurance. Fortunately for us, when the next spring/summer came, he didn't mind thunderstorms.

Our previous GSP was trained on a choke collar, and was a perfect gentleman while walking on leash. Gator, on the other hand, was immune to corrections with the choke collar (my fault, I don't have alot of muscle stregnth in my hands due to bilateral carpal tunnel and trigger fingers), so I use the gentle leader with him. It works for us.

Give her time and patience. They claim that you need to perform a task at for at least 21 days for it to become a habit. I am sure things will work out just fine for you.

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06/08/2010 7:09 PM  
Welcome and Congrats on adopting Remy. She is beautiful!! I will pray you do not get too many Thunder Storms this Spring-Summer. From my experience living with a Storm afraid Chese/Lab for 13 yrs, Just have to cancel any Vet or other outings for the dog if a Big Thunder Storm Front is in the local forecast.

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06/09/2010 6:08 AM  
I too have bids with bird dogs, LOL! We have a cockatiel and 4 parakeets...I feel bad cuz before the dogs the cockatiel got to come out of his cage a lot more (I also used to let the keets out a bit too but they aren't as tame so they don't come out at all now)....

Seeing Remy's face doesn't make her a perfect match to Blitz cuz he has a solid liver head...so she is a combo if my 2....very adorable and she looks very happy to be with your 3 year old. You should see what my two dogs go through with my kids, LOL!


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06/27/2010 5:14 AM  

I am new to the forum ...today.. seems to not be many brits on here? i haven't really lookes properly yet. Anyway... i have a rescue gsp, i will always have at least one rescue while i can, i am looking at him as i type,, what a gem he is. well done to every one that opens their homes to rescues know mater what breed they are.

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