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12/18/2007 11:19 AM  

Okay, he's not a GSP, but I'm afraid my two GSPs are going to pick up bad habits, so help!  I'm  petsitting a friend's young Aussie and he's driving me nuts climbing in my lap (and mouthing my arm).  Shoving him off with "NO!" doesn't work.  I have a crate for him; should I try immediately putting him in his crate when he starts to climb up, and then letting him out in 10 minutes?  How about tethering him?  Squirting him?  I'm looking for a quick fix although I'm sure my friend would be appreciative of any improvement!  I don't have a lot of good discipline skills because Chelsea and Jasper, bless their hearts, are really, really good dogs.  (Except when she goes nuts barking at a cat and I have to throw a rake at her.)

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12/18/2007 11:22 AM  
Squirt bottles of water have always worked for us! Fast and easy!

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12/18/2007 12:50 PM  
IMO, crates should not be used as "punishment". It's the dog's den/room and only that.

The dog is getting in your lap and mouthing because that is what gets him attention and has always worked for him. Try getting up and leaving the room (no attention/emotion when you do leave) when he does get in your lap. Also praise/reward like crazy when he does the right thing (sitting in front of you or whatever).
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12/18/2007 12:59 PM  
My last Lab was the puppy from hell..I even tried a dog whisperer...she suggested the squirt bottle, but her twist was 1/2 water & 1/2 vinager.....it worked for a day, then he decided it was fun to try to bite the bottle.
All I really accompished was my house smelling like a pickle factory.
I wish you luck...nothing more annoying than a poorly behaved dog
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12/18/2007 1:12 PM  
I wouldn't use the spray bottle method. It may work temporarily, but in the end it is just going to confuse the dog. It won't help the dog understand that laps/mouthing are bad and being polite is good (and being polite is where he will get all of his attention).
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12/18/2007 1:27 PM  
Grab him by the scruff of the neck and shake him.
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12/18/2007 3:00 PM  

I have been putting him firmly in the "down" submissive position which he understands real well. He goes submissively limp. . .and then hops right up when I release him and back to climbing up.  I don't want to get up and leave the room because this happens in the den while I'm watching TV and why should I be the one punished?     I may try turning my back. and ignoring him . .then its the squirt bottle.   

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12/18/2007 3:06 PM  
Why don't you just crate him when you're in your den?
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12/18/2007 8:05 PM  

You could put a 'tab' leash on him and stomp on it when you've pushed the dog down onto the floor. Or put a blanket or bed on the floor and keep dragging the dog back to it the nanosecond he gets off until he realizes getting off it is no fun and doesn't get him very far.

HOWEVER....  IMO if you're going to have any success, you need to make BOTH halves of the message very consistant and clear: on you BAD, off you GOOD. That means all attention/treats/maybe even meals from now on needs to be while the dog is behaving/lying down/on his rug. If that payoff for good behavior isn't sufficient, he'll probably continue to decide that the threat of punishment is worth the additional attention it gains him.

I would also consider a dog like this a prime candidate for an extended, or even perminant, 'nothing in life is free program'. I'm no expert but I rarely see rude and bossy behavior like this in a vaccum.... such dogs are often rude and bossy about darn near everything. Example: if you give a command the dog knows, particularly one that puts the dog in a submissive posture like 'down', does the dog bark at your face before he complies? Or just refuse outright? Does he shove his way through doors, especially before you go through? Does he swat a paw or claw at you until you pet/feed/hand over a toy? Owners will often excuse this type of thing, but IMO it's all the doglish equivalent of giving the human the middle finger and needs to be dealt with head-on.

The good news is that my most bratly 'nothing in life is free' dog is mostly very well behaved these days- with periodic tuneup sessions.


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