MurfsMa Orange County, CA
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| 03/10/2010 3:05 PM |
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We've nicknamed him Calamity Murphy for a reason (to go along with that he can also be called Million Dollar Murphy- as that is about what he's cost in vet bills since he came home with us at the age of 8 weeks).
Anyway, a few weeks ago Murf must have gotten into a tussle at daycare and he came home with a teensy tiny little nick on his ear. Right at the tip... I didn't think much of it as it wasn't bleeding and didn't seem to be bothering him. I cleaned it up, put some neosporin on it and thought we were good to go. Well about a week ago I noticed that it was a much larger cut... bordering on "a notch" as opposed to a nick. It was beginning to look like his ear was splitting. And, every time he shook his head and his ears flapped it broke open and started bleeding profusely. I'll spare you the gross details but let's just say that Murphy shakes A LOT and my walls were beginning to look like a murder scene!
So I decided to take him to the vet and have it looked at and ask for a solution... it was determined that our best option would be to stitch up the wound in order to get good closure and clean margins and keep him in cone for 3-4 days to keep the "shaking" effects at a minimum. We also needed to keep him quiet for a few days. Riiiighht How do you stop a dog from shaking his head?! Second question: How do you keep a perfectly healthy GSP quiet?!
Well we spent the weekend holed up in the house with him... lots of bones, belly rubs... toys... trying to stop him from shaking/flapping as much as we could. Apparently it just wasn't enough, because last night we wound up in the animal ER with him becuase he manged to bust the stitches open! Apparently the stitches had been coming loose for a day or two and at that point were only holding together scab material. So they stitched him back up... gave us some sedatives and sent us home.
What I need help with is this:
We've been advised that he needs to keep the stitches in for 2 weeks. They refuse to wrap up the ear and bandage it to his head saying he will just shake or scratch it loose anyway.
I'm very uncomfortable giving him sedatives when he's not in pain and doesn't NEED them.. I've had a dog have a seizure as an effect of a sedative before and am not a fan of them.
We plan to keep the cone on him, but it doesn't seem to have helped much previously...
I'm running out of ideas... how on earth can I get this poor dog to stay quiet and manage to keep this set of stitches in? Does anyone have any ideas on how we can keep this ear trauma free for the next two weeks??? 
I feel terrible for Murf... he's been wearing a cone for 6 days straight now... he's never worn one that long. Not even when he was neutered!
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!!
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Marie Wisconsin
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| 03/10/2010 3:33 PM |
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Oh Poor Murphy Would get a narrow ace 2 inch ace bandage and wrap it as far back on the neck and head just enough to ancher the ear down.Like this. |
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Marie and Rocky, a tall, high energy GSP http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab18/Annette_Merryfield/100_0285.jpg?t=1287205231 |
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Marie Wisconsin
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| 03/10/2010 3:36 PM |
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| Reason is the further back on head the ace will feel more like Murphy's collar and be less apt to shake it off. Worse thing , Murphy takes it off and you have to re wrap. No Rocky does not have a bad ear. Just using him to model. |
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Marie and Rocky, a tall, high energy GSP http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab18/Annette_Merryfield/100_0285.jpg?t=1287205231 |
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Marie Wisconsin
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| 03/10/2010 3:41 PM |
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Here is a closer look. Rocky tolerated this Ace bandage OK without trying to shake it off. Hopefully it will work for Murphy. |
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Marie and Rocky, a tall, high energy GSP http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab18/Annette_Merryfield/100_0285.jpg?t=1287205231 |
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zodiakgsps NW PA
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| 03/10/2010 3:44 PM |
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Other than the advice given, not a lot you can do. I have had some bad ear tears in the field, super glue & wrapping ear to head with vet wrap for a day usually fixed it real quick. Are you sure he doesnt have an ear infection (or any allergies causing itchy ears??) & that is the cause of the head shaking, which caused the split & not a dog at day care?? Chronic head shaking, hitting ear against something can and will cause a split......... If he has itchy allergy ears, a benadryl may help, won't hurt him at all to try it. |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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Marie Wisconsin
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| 03/10/2010 4:08 PM |
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| Great suggestions Zodiakgsp. Benadryl will also calm Murphy down. I do give Rocky Benadryl 25 mg when he gets stung by bees in the summer time. Rocky weighs 75 to 80 lbs. If you go that route get it in pill form so you can break it in half if Murphy weighs al lot less. My friend gave her Saluki who weighs 45 lbs 1/2 25 mg benadryl when her dog was stung by a bee and swelled up. |
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Marie and Rocky, a tall, high energy GSP http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab18/Annette_Merryfield/100_0285.jpg?t=1287205231 |
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MurfsMa Orange County, CA
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| 03/10/2010 4:18 PM |
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Thanks Marie (and pretty boy model Rocky ) and zodiak. I'll have to stop and buy an ace bandage on my way home tonight and see what we can do with that. I'm fairly certain that this wound came from daycare.. as when I dropped him off that day he didn't have a scratch on him and when I picked him up it was the first thing I noticed. I tend to run my hands over his ears a lot becuase they are so soft and velvety. Murphy has always been a "flapper"...ever since he was a puppy... and it's not just his head... but a full body shake that usually starts at his head and works its way down to his tail. The ears just take a beating from being so floppy and and large....he's had other nicks in them before...one from his own mom when he stayed with the breeder for a week while we were out of towm but it was a puncture right through the middle and healed very easily. This is a tough one being right on the edge... Our little guy Thor has had his share of ear infections and I'm familiar with the signs and symptoms... and Murf isn't showing any of them. The vet double checked as well running a swab through the ear just to double check for anything that might be in there. Negative... He's not even scratching at the ear... it doesn't even seem to be bothering him or causing him any discomfort. They didn't even need to sedate him or use a local to stitch him up last night... They said he just sat there and let them fix it right up. Hopefully we can get him to keep the bandage on... fingers crossed! Thanks again! |
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MurfsMa Orange County, CA
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| 03/10/2010 4:19 PM |
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| OH I love the idea of the snood! Thanks TB! |
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MelB
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| 03/10/2010 6:20 PM |
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| the snood would probably work better as it's less constrictive so he might accept it better. |
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Marie Wisconsin
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| 03/10/2010 8:20 PM |
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| Bet you could make a snood out of fleece scrapes. Make a fleece band with velco ends to adjust and wrap around the ears and head for a perfect fit. |
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Marie and Rocky, a tall, high energy GSP http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab18/Annette_Merryfield/100_0285.jpg?t=1287205231 |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 03/10/2010 9:24 PM |
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| Let us know what works and what doesn't. Someday we may have an ear injury to deal with. Hope he gets better quick. Nothing harder than keeping a perfectly fine GSP quiet. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
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Shelley Bristol, UK
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| 03/11/2010 1:14 AM |
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I'm sorry I have no other suggestions but I hope he feels better real soon Poor boy! |
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MurfsMa Orange County, CA
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| 03/11/2010 8:07 AM |
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OK... so the ace bandage is ok for when we're home to keep an eye on him. He is always in motion and every little head/neck movement managed to make it slip just a little bit. Somehow last night he managed to slither out of it 4 times in about 5 hours. (Guess we can call him Houdini as well!) I tried every combination of cone/ace bandage wrap technique I could think of...but within an hour or so I could see it slipping off his head. I finally gave up, gave him a "relaxing" dose of Benadryl and we went to sleep... this is exhausting! 
I have ordered a snood and it should be here tomorrow... so fingers crossed that is the answer! I'm not very crafty so making one is probably not the best option for us..LOL! Thankfully I am able to work from home today so I can keep an eye on him and stop him from hurting the ear further. I'll let you all know how the snood works out. He's currently snoozing on my lap so we'll hope he keeps the energy level on "low" for the day.
Thanks for all the suggestions!!! |
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CL66
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| 03/11/2010 10:08 AM |
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Also, a support bandage, say for a knee, could be slipped snugly over the head if all else fails. All the best with it, i've had a pup on rest and it wasn't fun at all. Hope he heals fast. |
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unowhoandwhy Middleofnowhere, NH
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| 03/11/2010 10:41 AM |
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Poor Murf! I didn't realize he was still having trouble with his ear. Poor baby! I've always been glad that my vet is familiar with the activity level & sheer exuberance of GSPs, because any other vet would have turned me in to the ASPCA or PETA or something after all the ridiculous accidents Daniel has gotten himself into! |
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carlower1 Kansas
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| 03/11/2010 11:09 AM |
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It was interesting hearing one suggestion of Superglue... I know it sounds wierd, but my daughter fell and developed a cut right above her eye.. instead of stitching it shut.. the used superglue (mind you it was medical and not over the counter) to close the wound. I was floored and was told that this was becoming more and more the practice.. A couple of months ago I sliced my hand.. it wasn't deep enough to warrant a hospital visit.. but it was in a place that kept it from healing shut... So one of my friends helped me clean the wound and superglue it shut! .. everything was healed up in a few days instead of a few weeks. Carrie |
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unowhoandwhy Middleofnowhere, NH
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| 03/11/2010 11:16 AM |
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I think they call it "EMT Glue" or something like that when they use it for 1st aid, but it is the exact same formula. Just another way to get more money out of you by packaging it differently & charging more.  |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 03/11/2010 11:22 AM |
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It is EMT Gel and it is considered medical grade because it is sterile. Super Glue may not be clean depending on how they handle it. I use EMT Gel on the dogs and it works well. You have to be sure the wound is clean though as you do not want to seal in germs. I am not sure how it would work with the stitches or how it would hold up to shaking. May be worth a try though if the second set of stitches don't hold. You can buy it online from Lion Country and Gun Dog Supply. Some pet stores also have it. For me I use the liquid bandage and on some cuts it works great. I especially like it for paper cuts or cuts with a clean edge. Ragged cuts are a bit harder to seal. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
  
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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MurfsMa Orange County, CA
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| 03/11/2010 11:50 AM |
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LOL I'm tempted to cover this set of stitches in super glue or EMT Gel just to cover all my bases |
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