So basically i'm having real problems toilet training the new pup.  He's grasped that he doesn't poop in the house, and will sometimes loiter by the back door, mostly my timings mean i let him out when he needs to go rather than he asks as such.

But peeing is a whole different kettle of fish.  He gives absolutely NO warning, no sniffing, nothing, just squats and goes.  He will go when i take him out (which is every 15 mins or so, after eating, after drinking, after playing blah blah i feel taking him out is taking over my life!!)  but then he'll come back in and squat on the floor sometime

I'm treating him and telling him he's a good boy when he goes outside, and the weathers nice so i've been able to have the door open but still..sometimes inside sometimes outside.  And he's also got an annoying habit of peeing on rupert's bed so i'm spending all my time washing that over and over.  He's good in his crate and i can leave him for a few hours no accident.

Hmmmm, any ideas??  Tips?  I feel i'm doing all i can, and i've been studying the past week so i took time off work and spent all my time in the kitchen supervising them to get him toilet trained.

Thanks!

ps rupert's no longer got separatino anxiety since we got dex, and they both sleep in the kitchen at night now wihtout a peep.  RESULT!

Thanks Bev. Yeah, i'm over the moon that rupert's happier and i no longer have to take him everywhere i go!

I've been washing the floor like a maniac, fortunately it's slate tiles, and disinfect every time he goes. And he's not allowed out of the kitchen period unless we are there with him in the living room. He sometimes makes a break for it as we sneak out the door, just to go pee in the hall. What a brat!

As he pees little and often he's often finished by the time i scoop him up and stick him outside. i think it's like your boy, he's just not getting it. he's better than he was i guess, but it's so so frustrating. Rupert was about 4 1/2 months when there were no accidents whatsoever, but was asking to go out by this time,and the accidents were few and far between. so i'm just comparing them i guess, but every dog's different.

I think i'll stick rupert's bed on top of the crate while dex is out and about then, not like rupert gets much sleep when he's getting attacked!

Thanks for the advice.

Blimey, I didn't realise how blessed I was. Hogan was potty trained COMPLETELY within 5 days of me having him!

From my limited experience I would say that you are doing all the right rights, hopefully some time soon it will just "click".

The only thing I did different, when I saw Hogan peeing, because I couldn't pick him up quick enough, as soon as I saw him I would make a loud noise - shout, clap or bang something - that would get his attention enough to stop him mid flow.

I can't believe the average is so old - JoeyBean, we picked up Hogan on the saturday, by the Friday he was FULLY potty trained - not only did he "ask" at the door to go out - but he rang the bell too! (We have a bell hanging on a string type ornament).
He has done that ever since (we have had him 2.5 weeks now) and we haven't had ANY accidents since then!!!

We didn't use pads apart from the first few nights, then he started shredding them so that stopped. He goes 8 hours through the night no accidents (we used to get up twice through the night with him but now we just sleep through) and probably asks to go out every few hours during the day.

I guess he must have the bladder of an elephant?!

I say Blitz was trained at about 9/10 weeks old but I was having to let him out a lot, I just figured out his signs and he figured out how to ask....if I didn't get him out right away when he was asking he would not be able to hold it, but then it was my fault for not getting him out when he asked. Plus Blitz didn't wander away from me so it was easy to watch him and he didn't go to the door he would whine (now he does both goes to the door and whines) to ask to go out.

It is easy for me to spend time watching the dogs cuz I am an at home mom with my kids off at school all day, so my dogs are my babies!

Donner has proven to be a bit tougher but he is now 11 weeks and hasn't had an accident all week! Though I think with Blitz around and the weather getting nicer he wants to be outside.

I also want to add by potty trained I don't mean I could leave them loose in the house and home alone and they would not go potty...cuz if I left them alone they would go potty in the house(but I kennel/crate them when we leave and they don't go in their kennels/crates)...

So by potty trained I mean they know how to ask to go out...if I don't let them out they would choose to go in the house....Now Blitz is getting older (8 months) so he can probably hold it for a bit, but I had't tested how long yet...