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lj04
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| 03/01/2010 2:39 AM |
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This week in obedience class we are supposed to share something about our breed. What is something I could say that others would find interesting? |
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MelB
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| 03/01/2010 3:30 AM |
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The colouring of the GSP provides camouflage in the winter seasons. When standing next to dead trees and in broken snow, the white and dark brown coat makes the dog difficult to see.
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carlower1
Kansas
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| 03/01/2010 5:02 AM |
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The Dalmation breed comes from GSP's. The GSP was created to be the "Common Man's" hunting dog... Since they couldnt afford to have specialty dogs like royalty, The GSP was designed to be not only a hunting partner, but a family companion and guard dog. (as demonstrated by them sitting on any lap available and barking at everything that passes)
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easyedwin
Birmingham, AL
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| 03/01/2010 5:08 AM |
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GSP's have noses that are over 10 times stronger than humans. |
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everbell
Kanata, ON
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| 03/01/2010 6:09 AM |
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The breed standard specifies that the eyes should be "full of intelligence and expression, good-humored and yet radiating energy".
I LOVE that description of their eyes  |
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Joce and Rich
Bogart and Shiraz (GSPs)
Roxane (RIP: 1995-2009) and Tiger Lily (Cats)
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TessaGA
Georgia
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| 03/01/2010 7:23 AM |
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easyedwin: The GSP's nose is actually much stronger than that. In general, a dogs' sense of smell is said to be 1000-10,000 times stronger than ours but numbers differ. Amazing! A human has abut 5-10 million odor-detecting cells in the nose, and dogs somwhere between 125-300 million depending on breed. I would think the GSP is at the upper range.
Interesting fact: They have webbed feet, just like Labs, and are excellent swimmers! Not many people know that. |
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To live without dogs would mean accepting a form of blindness. [Thomas McGuane]
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 03/01/2010 8:18 AM |
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| They were develop by the working class in Germany to be a multi-purpose dog, but first and foremost a family dog. They were originally named German Shorthaired Pointers in Germany, but the German's dropped the Pointer part of the name because they were so versatile (they did not want them to be simply pointers). Today many people say they are the SUVs of the dog world because they do it all. In hunting they find, point, flush, retrieve birds. They are also used for tracking wild game (fur). They compete successfully in obedience, agility, tracking, hunt tests, field trials, conformation and are great companion dogs. More recently they have been used in skijoring and they are also being used in mushing teams both in Europe and North America. They are known for their good temperament and their endurance. They make great jogging and hiking partners as well. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
     
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pixie bee
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| 03/01/2010 8:26 AM |
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The Germans never had the name Pointer in the name.I don't know where the thread is, a while ago this was hashed over.
Francine
here is how the DK got it's name:
The historic name of the DK is Brauntiger und Preussisch Kurzhaar. When both clubs united 1934 they got the Name: Deutsch Kurzhaar
the Deutsch-Kurzhaar belongs to the Deutsch-Vorstehhunde- German Pointing dogs. but they were never only pointing dogs like the pointer, but allrounder. |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 03/01/2010 8:30 AM |
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| Thanks Francine. I didn't go look it up, but remembered in my reading that there was a big deal made about the German's no longer having pointer in the name, but in the US we do. Appreciate the correction. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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pixie bee
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| 03/01/2010 8:32 AM |
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I edited to post the origins of the name and we posted at the same time.
So, the word pointer refers only to the group the breed belongs to and not the breed name.It can be confusing.
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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dieterthegsp
Cape Breton, NS, Canada
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| 03/01/2010 9:08 AM |
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The breed was used to create other breeds such as
Doberman Pincher = german pincher + rottweiler + thuringian shepherd dog + black greyhound + great dane + weimaraner + GSP + german shepherd dog
Vizsla = old magyar vizsla + weimaraner + GSP |
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dieterthegsp
Cape Breton, NS, Canada
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| 03/01/2010 9:18 AM |
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Posted By carlower1 on 03/01/2010 5:02 AM
The Dalmation breed comes from GSP's.
actually the dalmation is an older breed then the gsp. Dalmations were around in the 1700s and the gsp not untill 1800s |
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dnauer
Colorado Springs, CO
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| 03/01/2010 9:56 AM |
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Here is the description from Wikipedia on the origin of the Dalmation. I suspect it's note that the true origin of the breed isn't really known is most accurate:
"The FCI recognized as its country of origin the region of Dalmatia in the Republic of Croatia, citing Bewick's 1792 work.Β]
"Previously, Yugoslavia was recognized by the F.C.I. as the country of origin of the Dalmatian; the breed had been developed and cultivated chiefly in England. When the dog with the distinctive markings was first shown in England in 1862 it was said to have been used by the frontier guards of Dalmatia as a guard dog. But nothing is definitely known about its origin. The breed has become widely distributed over the continent of Europe since 1920. Its unusual markings were often mentioned by the old writers on cynology.Γ]"
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Dave in Colorado
Voyager GSPs
"If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die, I want to go where they went" -- Will Rogers |
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dnauer
Colorado Springs, CO
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| 03/01/2010 10:00 AM |
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OK -- since this is Obedience Class, how about this information:
1) There have only been 11 AKC Obedience Champion (OTCH) GSPs and in the past decade only three earned that title.
2) There has been only one AKC Champion Tracker GSP in the history of the breed.
3) There has been 15 MACH GSPs, of which 6 attained MACH-2 and one has reached MACH-3 levels.
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Dave in Colorado
Voyager GSPs
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pixie bee
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| 03/01/2010 10:16 AM |
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I'm not sure facts #1 & 2 are really that flattering.
Francine
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dnauer
Colorado Springs, CO
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| 03/01/2010 10:31 AM |
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| But it is interesting and makes achievement of those titles all that much more special. One of the regular members on this list has one of those OTCH GSPs -- and it is a black and white GSP to boot . . . |
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Dave in Colorado
Voyager GSPs
"If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die, I want to go where they went" -- Will Rogers |
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 03/01/2010 11:51 AM |
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| Yes, and there are some of us on this list that would like to join that exclusive club someday. : ) |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 03/01/2010 11:54 AM |
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| Actually I think it is a tribute to the dogs and handlers with regard to the OTCH. It isn't easy to achieve anyway, then couple that with going up against your traditional obedience dogs like goldens and borders and it says allot that there are 11 GSP/handler pairs that have done that. Anyone how has trained a GSP for obedience knows that it is a real challenge for the handler to keep the ever so smart GSP engaged in some of the more boring/mundane aspects of obedience. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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dnauer
Colorado Springs, CO
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| 03/01/2010 3:11 PM |
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I might add that the OTCH is the *only* AKC title that is earned by head to head competition where ALL breeds can be present. To clarify, a CH is against other GSPs only for that CH title; a FC is against Pointing Breeds (or spaniels, or retrievers, or sight hounds (yes, they earn the FC in lure coursing!), or Dachahsunds, or Beagles, but not against all breeds), a HC (Herding Champion) is against other herding breeds, and Championships such as the MACH (Master Agility Champion), the up and coming PACH (Preferred Agility Champion) or CT (Champion Tracker) are not earned by competing head to head for placements and points.
ONLY the OTCH is a championship earned against all breeds -- so as Bev notes, you are competing against the "obedience professional breeds" like BCs, Shelties, Goldens, and Paps -- and you not only gotta earn points, you must also place first in the highest level classes (UT, Open) three times, and the point schedule is a killer where you need 100 points total.
As an aside, there has never been a Triple Champion (TC) GSP (defined as a CH, FC, and OTCH), although there have been quite a few Dual Champions (DC) (defined as a CH and FC). There has also never been a VCCH (Versitile Companion Champion) of any breed until the past 2 years, requiring all three companion dog championships (MACH, OTCH, and CT) -- and of the breeds that recently finally earned it, none have been GSPs.
OK -- I know -- Overload
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Dave in Colorado
Voyager GSPs
"If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die, I want to go where they went" -- Will Rogers |
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escampbell
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| 03/02/2010 10:54 AM |
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Many breeds have earned far fewer OTCH's than GSPs. Some, none at all. And, all breeds, there are fewer than 100 (usually about 80+) new Obedience Trial Champions each year - usually about 30 Goldens, 20+ Border Collies, then Shelties, Labradors, Poodles (all sizes), German Shepherds, Papillons, Australian Shepherds, Dobermans, Rottweilers, Dachshunds, Mini Schnauzers, Cocker Spaniels - the latter are other breeds which are or have been popular (or somewhat popular) in the sport.
Just like any other accomplishment, it is one that requires a solid and early foundation. And pursuit of an OTCh can be time-consuming. I think the GSP breed does OK. Actually, pointing breeds do OK. There have been OTCh Pointers, Brittanies, Irish Setters, Vizslas and Weims. Currently, the Vizlas and the Weims are the only Pointing breeds to boast of Triple (or more) Champions. |
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Eleanor Campbell
New Jersey
Sydney, Presto, Price, Ozma and Soleil |
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