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MelB
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| 11/02/2009 10:09 AM |
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As good as Xara is off leash she's horrible on leash. I tried a martingale on her today, worked a bit better but still just wants to pull and pull. I have to find a higher value treat for walks, the liver treats are ok in the house, but outside with all the distractions she simply could care less about them. Time to boil some chicken off I think.
I hate using a choke collar on a pup under 6 months, but she might have to have one, the buckle collar she doesn't even care about pulling on. The martingale worked as long as I kept it right close behind her ears to some degree, but still not as good as I'd like it to have done. I'm thinking I may try my show lead next, I can fit that nice and snug behind her ears and keep it there, that may get her attention better also. |
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 11/02/2009 10:55 AM |
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| Also, when she pulls don't say anything to her, just turn and walk the other direction. Don't break stride either. She will quickly learn she has to pay attention to you as she will never know when you will change direction. Also, give her praise when she is in the position you want her to be in, not when she turns. You have to let her know with praise where you want her to be. If you get a training collar, get the pinch. They are much easier on a dog that pulls than the choke. Also, be sure you keep the leash loose except when correcting. After the correction the leash should be loosened again. Otherwise, you exacerbate the pulling. |
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MelB
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| 11/02/2009 11:38 AM |
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yep been doing that. She turns, but then takes off like a bat out of heck again in the direction I turned her in. Like I said, need to find that one high value treat that she simply cannot resist and keep her attention. I'll also work more on the attention work in the house too, we've done some but obviously we need much more work.
I'm going to take her out on the flexi here in a bit and work on turning to me when she hears her name called also. I've always had good luck with that with the others I've trained learning that when they hear their name they better be looking at me and not at everything else. |
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JLKShorthairs
Westport,wa
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| 11/02/2009 12:00 PM |
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| Yeah I agree with Bev if that doesnt work then you can try a trick that pros use to get that real professional heal that they use in the obedience rings. If she likes hot dogs then put some hot dog in your mouth and dont try walking just get her to look at you and when she does drop the hot dog out of your mouth only give her the hot dog out of your mouth (just spit it out) and she will learn that when she watches you then she gets rewarded but she has to look at your face to get that reward. When she is doing well with this just take a couple steps and if she looks and stays by you reward and keep doing this till you can walk all the way across the yard without having to treat her and then give it to her eventually you can faze out the treats and she will just watch you when you walk. |
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everbell
Kanata, ON
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| 11/02/2009 12:15 PM |
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| Wow! What a great technique. Both of our dogs are lousy on leash. I think I'll give this a try. |
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pixie bee
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| 11/02/2009 12:29 PM |
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That trick doesn't work with high prey drive dogs.Food means nothing when they are in the 'zone'. If you have dog like my 2 it will take some growing up,a lot of reminders and patience. Dogs will prioritize and they can't be in prey mode and social mode at the same time - one will take a back seat. they can switch back and forth rapidly,which is confusing for us b/c we think we are getting somewhere and then -bang-they're back in prey mode again.
Genetics will determine how prey driven a dog is, so hang in there (I mean hang on) for the next 2 years.Keep teaching b/c they are learning. Maturity and learning to handle all the prey drive will eventually kick in.
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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MelB
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| 11/02/2009 12:40 PM |
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yep and right now if it moves she hones in on it big time, cars, birds, leaves, kids running etc. Once she sees it move I'm oblivious to her. Dave's boss asked me today if I ever let her run off leash, I cracked up and said hoo heck no! she'd be gone! she loves to chase toooo much right now.
She is very food oriented, but not when things are moving around her then she's more interested in chasing or catching than training. |
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 11/02/2009 1:04 PM |
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| I think working on focus will be good, but pixie is right it may take until she is two or older before you really get her attention. Patience and persistence and keep up with the obedience training and you will get there. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
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JoeyBean
Albany, NY
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| 11/02/2009 1:17 PM |
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If you checked out the other leash post I had going, we found the prong collar to be an instant change, and we didn't want to go that route(it is much different than a choke collar). It definitely doesn't hurt her.
In fact, yesterday, we went for a long walk with some prong collar on with the leash, and then let her off (2nd time shes been off leash in public) and she was GREAT! Shes 14 weeks old. She did a lot of rummaging around but as soon as we got about a 50ft seperation from her she would either turn around to make sure we were still there, or check back in, we said "COME" and she did sometimes and we gave her treats when she did. She did really well. Have treats and be enthusiastic, it seemed to work well.
Then we went to the dog park for the first time.. that was FUN! we saw another GSP, a basset hound, white shepherds and a BIG doberman. She was very social after a few minutes of being scared. |
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MelB
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| 11/02/2009 1:48 PM |
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| I've got a prong, just was trying to work without it, however if I have to use it I will! She's young yet and seriously hard headed too LOL It'll come in time, I just want to be able to take an enjoyable walk without being dragged down the street for now, not asking for proper heeling yet, just to not pull so dang much. |
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MelB
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| 11/02/2009 2:39 PM |
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ok I put her on the prong and it worked like a dream. One pull, I stopped, she self corrected with the prong and after that she stayed pretty close by. I walked a bit and treated her every time she came back to my side and after about 10 min she kept close to my side and never even tried to pull.
Now the trick is to teach her to walk nice with it on and then see if she will continue doing so without the prong on. I had that problem with Sniper at first, prong on he was great, prong off and he knew it and pulled like heck. He's good now but it took a bit.
I just really hated to put that prong on her for some reason LOL Even though I know they don't hurt the dog at all if used properly, I've used them for years but as I said usually not on a pup under 6 months. Thing looked so big on her little skinny neck LOL |
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 11/02/2009 3:54 PM |
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| Put both collars on her. At first use the prong, then trying only using the other collar, but leave the prong on and then slowly fade the prong. |
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Yellow Rose GSPs
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