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11/20/2007 8:59 AM  
List of players: 11 yr old Basset(female,fixed,alpha), 7 yr old Bluetick(female,fixed), 3 yr old GSP(male,fixed) and new 8 month old EP (female, not fixed).

Background: We added a EP dog to the mix about 1 month ago. She is submissive to all the other dogs. The dogs are walked twice a day for 5 miles at a time. We live on an acre of land and I spend about 85% of my day outside with them letting them run off steam. We give extra time to each dog on a separate basis.

Problem: My GSP just barely tolerates the dog and has not accepted it yet (the hounds have accepted her). At times he will run and play with her but most of the time he igonres her or gives her the evil eye. He has snapped her off twice over toys (they have been put up) and food (I was making doggy jerky and she was smelling his breath).

Do you think my GSP will ever accept her?
What can I do to help my GSP learn to accept her?

Any help would be appreciated.
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11/20/2007 12:25 PM  

JMO: you can't force dogs to love each other. You can strictly enforce behavior and hope they continue to tolerate one another, but that's the limit of what you can do as a human.

If the 8 mo old is behaving appropriately- I'm talking good manners in 'doglish' here, not what WE think of as appropriate as humans- I'd probably put the 3yo on a 'nothing in life is free' program and make sure she clearly understands YOU are running the show. That way if/when bickering starts you'll have a better chance of stopping it before things get out of control. Controlling toys and food closely is a good idea too.

FWIW if any of mine get in a cussing match, all participants get cuffed and shoved into an immediate down next to each other. Then I quite dramatically ignore them while showering attention on the GOOD dogs, who are still running around freely... and God as my witness, the innocent doggie bystanders seem to enjoy rubbing it in when someone else gets in trouble! If the guilty parties screw around or try to get up, they're going to get another lecture and dumped right back into a down like a lowly sack of potatoes.

By the time all this drama wraps up and I let them go, the combatants usually trot off together looking over their shoulder at me like two little boys spending the rest of the day commisserating after getting busted down for arguing over a ball: "holy smokes, isn't she MEEEEEEN!?!" "Yeah! MEEEEEEN!"

Note that this is for minor squabbling, not flat-out "I'm going to kill you" fighting.


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11/20/2007 12:53 PM  
If your gsp is number three or even two in the pecking order, he is just making sure that the new dog knows she will always be below him. Pack order is everything to dogs, as long as they all understand you are the top dog, things will be OK. Now, if he is violently attacking her with no warning and trying to fight/injure/kill her that is another problem. The the growl,snap, sometimes take down is normal. You can help by always paying attention to him first, feed time, out time. Meg has some very good ideas in the above post. But, right now just sounds like normal working pack order out stuff.
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11/20/2007 1:05 PM  

Thanks for the comments! I will try what you have suggested.

My GSP is third on the pecking order. We make sure that the puppy is fed last. He doesn't attack her it is more he puts her in her place example:  Puppy grabs something she isn't suppose to have and runs like mad and he will go after her and bark in her face till she drops it. I figured it was normal work out the pack order I just wanted to make sure it did not lead to bigger problems (I have had those issues of attacking before with a boxer and didn't want a repeat).

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