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06/08/2009 12:35 AM  

 We bought Lily a new collar and she has worn it for two days. We were all in the back yard and we started to hear dog cries. Bailey and Lily were playing together and Lily had manage to get her collar caught on Baileys k-9's.  I know that sounds really strange and we have no freaking clue how it happened but when I ran over to try and take the collar off it was already starting to strangle Lily (not to mention she was freaking out because she was caught and the collar kept getting tighter). I didn't have time to get the scissors to cut off the collar and it was hurting both of them. By the time I got the collar untangled from Baileys teeth Lily wasn't breathing. Jaymes started to preform CPR on her and she came back. We laid on the yard for a half hour before she really started to move and get back to "normal". We are going to see the vet tomorrow. The collar that Lily had on is a newer cloth choke collar that you can loosen and tighten. Bailyes teeth got wrapped around the slit part. We have no idea how this happened and it was beyond terrifying. We will no longer be using these types of collars. I will take some pictures of them and post them online tomorrow. Tonight we are just going spend and give lots of love with our dogs. 


-Jessica-
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*Lily* GSP
* RIP: Maggie Mae* GSP
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06/08/2009 5:05 AM  
OMG !!! You must have been terrified. I can't imagine how freaked out I would have been in a situation like that. I'm so happy everything turned out ok.. Please don't forget to post the pics of the collar. It's amazing how such freaky things can happen.. Hope Lily is doing great today !!
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06/08/2009 5:06 AM  
oh my that is terrifying, thank goodness she is okay!

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06/08/2009 7:35 AM  

My stomach just kept rolling over reading this. Thank god you knew CPR. Hope the vet gives her a clean bill of health. How terrifying it had to have been...

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06/08/2009 7:37 AM  
Oh no...good thing you were there, and that you knew how to bring her back. Good, quick thinking, and another lesson learned. I hope all checks out fine at the vet today!

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06/08/2009 7:48 AM  

I use a chain style choke collar on Michigan, used to simply unhook the leash and let her run about. One day, a fellow dog owner mentioned that he used to do the same until one day another dog got his teeth caught in it and it was a very dangerous situation.

They, and other choke style collars, are effective tools when used as required. Their time and place is on the leash, though. I remove them when it's off leash playtime. Very glad I did not have to experience anythign like this, good luck to all of you.

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06/08/2009 8:08 AM  
WOW that must have been horrifying. TG Lily seems to be ok... Please if you can find the maker and name of this collar so we can warn other dog owners of the possibility of this happening.


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06/08/2009 8:30 AM  

As Dwayners said any kind of slip collar (both cloth and chains) can be dangerous if left on the dog.  The best collar for your dog to wear all the time is the kind that Wildrose was recommending in another thread.  They are the hunting collars with the ring.  If a dog catches this type of collar they are designed so the dog can slip out of the collar.  Here is a link: www.gundogsupply.com/cerisaco.html. Any collar that can be pulled and it tightens, even the Martingale type collars, can be dangerous if caught on something.  I use the ring collars when out hiking, swimming, etc. You can also add a nameplate so you don't have tags hanging down all the time to get caught.  At home my dogs wear flat buckle style collars. 

Also, be sure the collars fit right.  Most people leave collars too loose which makes them more susceptible to catching on things even the flat buckle style collars if worn too loose can be dangerous.

I suspect that your dogs were playing.  When they play allot of times they will grab each other around the neck area.  Probably one time the older dog caught the collar and the natural reaction for both was to pull back.  When that happened the collar tightened and both panicked.  I am just glad Lily is alive today thanks to some quick thinking, and I am praying the vet gives her a clean bill of health.

On another dog safety note, be sure you all electric cords that are plugged into the wall are hidden from dogs, especially puppies.   Dogs will chew on electric cords and the resulting shock can  put them in cardiac arrest.  My brother had this happen to his 7 month old lab.  Thankfully he too new how to do CPR and the dog survived.

Please let us know how Lily does at the vet today. 


Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

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06/08/2009 10:44 AM  
Thank goodness you were there & knew what to do! I am glad she is OK, how scary for you.

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06/08/2009 11:39 AM  
We just got back from the vet. Other then her swollen airway on her neck and her pale gumbs her bill of health is good. The neck and gumbs will just take time to get back to normal.

Texas Belle TY for the link to the collars. We just ordered two for them. I am right now uploading a photo of the collar and will post it.

I am glad to just put this behind us. The supplier we bougth this from said that it was "great" for every day wear because it wouldn't catch... What a idiot. Sorry but I am really upset about that.

-Jessica-
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*Lily* GSP
* RIP: Maggie Mae* GSP
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06/08/2009 11:47 AM  
I am so glad she there were no serious lasting issues. Give her a hug and kiss. Thank goodness everything is ok in the end. I will get curious to see the collar when you post it.

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06/08/2009 1:15 PM  

Here are the photos of the collar we were using. I don't know the make of it but I can ask our supplier. TexasBelle again thank you for the site!

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-Jessica-
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*Lily* GSP
* RIP: Maggie Mae* GSP
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06/08/2009 1:59 PM  
This looks to be a cross between a Martingale and a slip or choke collar. Why anyone would say this couldn't get caught on something I don't know. Again, i am glad that Lily is ok, and your welcome with regard to the link. There are other good suppliers out there too like Lion Country that one just always come to mind first for me.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

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06/08/2009 2:15 PM  
Wow, that can get caught any which way...what I find deceiving is, because it's cloth, it looks much more harmless than the stainless steel ones, when in fact it's not. Perfectly fine for training with a leash attached, any other time, these need to come off. There should be a disclaimer to that affect on those collars...oh well!

Very relieved that Lily is fine.

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06/08/2009 2:30 PM  
Tessa - I think it is even more deceiving than you traditional slip or choke collar because it has the appearance of the buckle too. Of course, that buckle is only for sizing, but the way it works can make folks think it is safer. As you said, it looks harmless.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

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06/08/2009 4:22 PM  
Yeah the buckle has no clasp or anything that you can just unclip or unsnap it from. It just slips over the head like a normal choke collar. If I would have only been able to unclip the collar it would have saved a lot of time. I agree Tessa that they need disclaims. I am still fuming over the situation.

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*Lily* GSP
* RIP: Maggie Mae* GSP
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06/08/2009 5:00 PM  
I'm glad everything turned out OK for Lily. Talk about scary!! I have heard of horror stories of dogs dying from getting collars stuck like this. My dogs are always "naked" in the house and in our heavily treed, fenced property. It's just not worth the risk. My girls can play pretty rough which each other..... When we got for off leash runs, they wear the collars Texas Belle and Wildrose mentioned.

Gail

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06/08/2009 8:05 PM  
I'm so glad everything turned out ok that is such a scary situation. I know with horses we never turn out horses with nylon halters but leather seems to be a better alternative because it gives more than nylon.
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06/08/2009 11:07 PM  
Carolinemae. The only time our horses have a halter on is when they are showing, getting saddle, unsaddle, and moving from one pasture (barn) to the next. We never leave halters on them in the pasture, horse trailer, or anything like that. I guess thats whats gunna start happening with the dogs now too (minus the saddling and all that lol) :)

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*Lily* GSP
* RIP: Maggie Mae* GSP
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06/09/2009 9:53 AM  
Collars are darned dangerous! I've seen many things happen with every kind! Good thing you were there to untangle and save her! GREAT JOB! In the house and in my fenced yard, my dogs are not collared...only when we go out, or on our walks do I put id collars and pinch chains on. That way I know there will be no accidentals.

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