Kerplunk105
Bucks County, PA
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| 06/03/2009 5:48 AM |
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Posted By WildRose on 06/02/2009 12:52 PM
Collars like that have their place as a training aid for certain things but I would never recommend leaving on on a dog.
These are the only collars I use or recommend.
http://www.gundogsupply.com/-1648-.html
http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/gundog_2056_132374846
The center ring is essential because it takes the pressure off of the trachea if the dog gets it hung in something and helps to prevent strangulation.
I got one of these last night. I like it b/c it has reflective tape all along the sides.
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Texas Belle
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| 06/03/2009 9:06 AM |
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| Cocoasparents - That is basically the same as a prong collar, only it looks a whole lot nicer. It certainly works the same way as a prong collar. I may have to get one of those. |
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Cocoasparents
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| 06/04/2009 10:23 AM |
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| It was a tad bit stiff for a while but it softened up pretty fast. It is a great tool for my two. if you don't put it on right it doesn't loosen up all the way though. What ever side they walk on it needs to hang on the side to you. They have never given the "pulled to tight gag/cough" wearing it. |
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 06/04/2009 11:02 AM |
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| Cocoasparent - I am familiar with how to put a slip collar on since I use a choke chain in training obedience. And yes, if it is on wrong it will only tighten. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
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Cocoasparents
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| 06/04/2009 4:39 PM |
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I had only learned of that when I used her trainers collar. He showed me what the difference was between wrong and right. No matter how persistent i was I could not get Cocoa to heel. He let me use his collar and it was magic. To this day if any other collar is used she wants to range out. but put this collar on and she is right beside me. On the wrong side though. I walk 2 dogs sometime and she was the right hand dog when i did that.
Even though I had used the old choke collars on very few occasions when I was younger ( not on Cocoa) I didn't realize that there was a right and wrong way to use those till he told me that the same principle applied there as well. You really can teach an old human new tricks. |
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Texas Belle
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ruffrunner
British Columbia, Canada
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| 06/05/2009 4:16 PM |
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I know that the conversation turned towards agility somewhat but anyone have any experience with Halti collars? I have one of those that I thought I would use on our puppy to start with.
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Texas Belle
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zodiakgsps
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| 06/05/2009 6:45 PM |
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For walking I use a plain metal choke chain, as Bev pointed out, putting it on properly makes a big difference. For field work I use the same collar Charlie does, O-ring flat collar.
I have the leather pinch collar, nice for training, haven't needed it for walking as I put manners on my guys in obedience sessions & so far all are mannerly walking. (notice I said so far so my new pup won't jinx that???) |
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TexasLuke
The Lone Star State
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| 09/21/2009 9:19 AM |
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| Just an update on this. We finally had to do something about Luke's pulling as he is getting big now and is apt to pull my wife's arms out of socket. Even with me, even if I walk him right, giving him only just enough leash and keeping his head up, he was still pulling enough to gag himself. He just didn't get it. Not even with the stopping and starting again. So last week I went out and got him a pinch or prong collar (whichever name you prefer). That might be the best $12 I ever spend on him. He figured it out before we got out of the driveway! He walks so gentle and stays right beside me ... it's great. I was apprehensive about it at first, but this is SOOOO much better for him. He was bound to injure his neck eventually the way he was pulling. Now we can both ENJOY our walks instead of fighting each other around the block. I'm sure some people are horrified at the prospect of putting that awful looking contraption on their dog, but it has worked wonders for us. JMO |
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TessaGA
Georgia
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| 09/21/2009 9:55 AM |
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The pinch collar has as many enemies as it has advocates. I think it's an invaluable tool when all else fails. My vet hates them but my trainer of 20 years has always used them and still does. All the hunters I know use them (for training). My neighbor who is very much into the gentle clicker training and does VERY well with it has just started walking one of her dogs on the pinch collar, she said there was no other way with him.
I am glad to hear it works out for you! |
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caroline_mae
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| 09/21/2009 11:08 AM |
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the pinch collar is definitely the best for getting rid of pulling. However we do use that choke check collar on Porter most of the time because while pinch is good for training I don't like using it just when we go out to eat downtown or go to the beach. Generally the choke check is good for a quick fix. I personally have not had any problems with it.
With Tink we didn't have a pulling problem we had a confidence problem. She wouldn't walk out on her own and so we got the gentle leader. It works well it just takes time for the dog to get use to.
Jenny out on walks is also bad about pulling and getting tangled in your feet we are going to put her back on her show collar and lead for walks to break this habit without hurting her. She is just to young for anything else.
There are so many kinds of collars out there because all dogs are different and not one collar is going to work for every dog. You just have to learn what is best for your dog. Porter and Jenny are two very confident gsps so we have the problem of pulling so of course pinch and chokes are what we have to use on them. With Tink she is not confident out in public and it takes the gentle leader to get her out from under our feet.
Glad that you found something that works for you and Luke. |
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