Central.Wa.GSPs
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| 02/21/2009 9:36 AM |
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I had a lady call me very interested in my last puppy. She said she would like to get it for her son. As I was doing my normal questions: do you have a fenced yard, how many times a day will you exercise her outside, so on and so forth. I asked her how old her son was that she wanted to get the puppy for.... She said ONE AND A HALF YEARS OLD................. Right there I wanted to hung up the phone but I simply asked her do you know what a German Shorthair Pointer is? She said no but that the picture of them are very pretty and they look like beautiful dogs. I simply said before you buy a dog for your son please do research because these are dogs that need a lot of excerise and love... She wasn't very happy I was not going to sell to her but it is the truth. People buy our beautiful dogs and then find out that they become spazz's if you leave them in a outside kennel all day with no exercise... They wonder why when you let them out they take off and are gone for five hours... And the thing that makes me the most frustrated is all the back yard breeders that are out there for the money and don't care what type of homes they go to 
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-Jessica-
*Bailey* GSP
*Lily* GSP
* RIP: Maggie Mae* GSP
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TessaGA
Georgia
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| 02/21/2009 9:44 AM |
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| By denying her the puppy, you saved all three parties a lot of grief. |
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To live without dogs would mean accepting a form of blindness. [Thomas McGuane]
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Wolfe
Bellefonte, PA
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| 02/21/2009 9:50 AM |
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Glad some breeders are responsible.
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Central.Wa.GSPs
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| 02/21/2009 9:52 AM |
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| My fear is that she will go to some other breeder and bring home any breed of puppy and the puppy just being a puppy will hurt the child and that dog will be punished god knows how... It really makes me sad |
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-Jessica-
*Bailey* GSP
*Lily* GSP
* RIP: Maggie Mae* GSP
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everbell
Kanata, ON
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| 02/21/2009 10:30 AM |
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| You can only protect your own. Good call on the questioning... |
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Joce and Rich
Bogart and Shiraz (GSPs)
Roxane (RIP: 1995-2009) and Tiger Lily (Cats)
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Kerplunk105
Bucks County, PA
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| 02/21/2009 10:40 AM |
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That is a huge huge huge pet peeve of mine...people who get puppies to "grow up with the kids".
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Elizabeth
Leena RIP 11/08-9/17/09
Bliss, the Labrador
Tegan, the Weim/Labrador
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lauralee
Plainfield, CT.
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| 02/21/2009 3:38 PM |
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Does it not amaze you the reason people decide to get a dog !!!! What also amazes me is how they decide what breed they want, rather than deciding what breed is right for them !!!
They always make these decisions based on how pretty the breed is, or how popular the breed is. The best one is, "The puppy was so cute, I had to have it" I hate this statement, because ALL PUPPIES ARE CUTE!!!!
Thank-God for responsible breeders !!!! At least you know that these puppies are going to have a good chance of getting a good home.
To all you back yard breeders...... SHAME ON YOU for exploiting GSP's, and other breeds of dogs for your monetary gain !!! You are the ones that breed genetically sick and diseased dogs, with no remorse as to how the` puppy or buyers may suffer !!!
And to all you buyers out there trying to find a good deal on the purchase of a puppy, Let me just say , THERE IS NO GOOD DEAL when purchasing a puppy that will become a member of your family !!!
When you buy from a back yard breeder for the cheaper price... You get what you pay for !!!! These puppies have been born out of no health clearances, and minimal if any vet care. That is why they can sell you this puppy at such a low price !!!! But because of the lack of health clearances and Vet care... You will end up with a puppy that could very well cost you hundreds, if not thousands of dollars !! Not to mention all the heart sick family members you have because you all have bonded with this poor puppy .
When you buy from a responsible breeder, your not just purchasing the puppy. Your purchasing the guarantee that the Dam & Sire of this puppy is free of any known genetic defects that may be common to the breed. The price you pay for this puppy may be a little more than a back yard breeder,but you will end up paying less , because you'll have a healthy puppy.. Also Reputable Breeders want to help you through-out the puppies life, always making sure that everything is going well. They will also be there if you ever have to re-home the dog, I don't think you could find a backyard breeder that would care where the puppy goes..
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everbell
Kanata, ON
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| 02/21/2009 4:06 PM |
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| The funny thing is, buying a purebred dog from a responsible breeder often costs significantly less than through other channels. I guess some people just don't want to do the homework (frightening thought for the dog they end up selecting ...) |
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Joce and Rich
Bogart and Shiraz (GSPs)
Roxane (RIP: 1995-2009) and Tiger Lily (Cats)
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Pointer Fan
Westminster, Colorado
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| 02/21/2009 8:05 PM |
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| I think you did the right thing in this case but GSPs and small kids are a good combo if you know what you are getting into. I had a 3 year old and a toddler when I got my first GSP and they were a great match for each other. My second GSP was a rescue and she cost me big bucks but once we got her health problems solved she was worth every cent. That said I decided to go a good breeder for my last dog. It was much cheaper in the long run. |
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MegC
Ellensburg, WA
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| 02/21/2009 8:35 PM |
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Well, given that she didn't know anything about the dogs except they're 'pretty', I'm very glad you shot her down.
BTW I've been hung up with one thing after another lately, but I DO still want to visit pups!!! |
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Megan
+ Dulcie (Lehmschlog's The Right Spot) + Rogan (Lehmschlog's BR Rogan) + Anya (Lehmschlog's Anya O Conchobar)
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Rugergundog
Saginaw Michigan USA
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| 02/22/2009 7:50 AM |
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Unno I got my GSP to grow up with my son. GSP was born 4/25 I had already decided on the breeding..picked him up end of June @7 weeks. My son was born the end of May.
Now granted I hunt and train and all that mojo; but I wanted my little son to grow up with the dog and as he grows learn to hunt with the dog before he is 12-14 and can carry a shotgun of his own......and then (god rest Kilians soul in 12-14 years) he can pick out his very own replacement hunting buddy....be it a GSP unno; that will be up to my son (and me and mom to some extent). |
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Saginaw Michigan
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Central.Wa.GSPs
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| 02/22/2009 10:31 AM |
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| Yeah I understand where you are coming from. The underlying issue is not that she has a one and a half year old son. Its that she has never owned a GSP and has never heard of the breed. They are just "beautiful". I full understand and support people who have young children and puppies but you are experienced and have had researched them before buying em. She was looking for a backyard breeder who would have just sold the dog to her.... |
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-Jessica-
*Bailey* GSP
*Lily* GSP
* RIP: Maggie Mae* GSP
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Rugergundog
Saginaw Michigan USA
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| 02/22/2009 11:32 AM |
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Central- I agree with you. I was responding to Kerplunk.
Sad thing is the frick'n person will not likely take what you offered about the breed.......instead will go find someone who needs to "dump" an extra puppy.....prob a male......who will end up big and goofey and silly like males are......and then end up in a shelter at 9 months old. |
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Saginaw Michigan
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Bxr-Linda
Oregon
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| 02/23/2009 4:21 PM |
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I guess I could say we are happy some people make the wrong choices, because we got a nice GSP from the county dog control. 
When I expressed a reservation about the breed, the shelter suggested we do some more research first. But after telling them we had had 3 boxers, we were told "you'll have no problem" with this GSP. :o
But I do agree 100% that people need to consider (seriously) more than looks when choosing a breed. |
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Zoomer
New York
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| 02/23/2009 8:17 PM |
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As we all know, GSP's are a commitment. I for one, wanted my son and daughter to grow up with a dog. A real dog - a hunting dog..a GSP. They were wonderful together. A boy and his dog are truly one of God's greatest gifts. I will concede, we were VERY lucky with the 1st GSP we had. Calm, loyal, protective and everything else you could possibly want. We lost the first to cancer at 7 years old and now have a new pup (20 weeks). She is a...velociraptor/devil dog. She jumps on everything, tears clothes, bras, slippers, mail, bills, towels, eats bath soap, and can open the front door and haul down the road. But she too is a gift. What a wonderful dog. Expressive face, highly trainable..obedient. Very birdy and not the least bit gun shy. My kids love her. And so do I. |
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MegC
Ellensburg, WA
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| 02/23/2009 10:58 PM |
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OT: Zoomer, that's a beautiful buck in your picture and a wonderful quote in your sig. And I'm not even a deer hunter/fisher.  |
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Megan
+ Dulcie (Lehmschlog's The Right Spot) + Rogan (Lehmschlog's BR Rogan) + Anya (Lehmschlog's Anya O Conchobar)
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rdebault
Colleyville, TX (DFW) area
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| 02/24/2009 7:34 AM |
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I think its great you asked the questions you did and the decision you made was dead on. I am a newbee when it comes to owning a GSP. I did do a lot of research though and new what I was getting. I have owned shelties and collies so I was somewhat accustomed to hyper dogs but the GSP breed is not only hyper but big. I adopted Samson (2 1/2 year old 26-27" male 70lbs) a week ago and have had a blast so far. We are still working on a few social problems with jumping and pawing to get attention. I really appreciate all the helpfull information I am getting from this forum as well. The other thing I wanted to say is that the form I filled on the NTxGSP rescue site was great and really asked alot of the same questions that you did. I think that questionair should be mandatory for anyone getting a GSP. I devote about two to three hours a day to walking, training and playing at the moment and it seems to be keeping him occupied. Of course with a gsp playing is constant so it bleeds into more that three hours LOL
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TessaGA
Georgia
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| 02/24/2009 8:02 AM |
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| Well said rdebault and I agree...and while I certainly understand, it still makes me a little sad that after I completed the questionnaire and added a lot of info to it, the GSP Rescue - Southeast would not let me rescue because I don't have a yard. The breeder I got Tessa from also had a questionnaire almost identical to the one from the GSP rescue, and got the same information. In both applications I was very straight-forward about where I live, what my lifestyle is, how I plan to exercise my GSP in absence of a fenced yard and what I intend to do with her in general. The breeder fortunately didn't see a problem with it, and I ended up with my beautiful Tessa. |
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Central.Wa.GSPs
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| 02/24/2009 12:19 PM |
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| I don't have a problem with buyers who don't have a fenced yard. In my puppy buying contract it actually covers that saying: "They Buyer shall provide the dog with a fully fenced yard or other humane means of exercise." One of my first questions I always ask someone is do you have a fenced yard and are you willing to spend four hours a day exercising your dog (especially if you live in an apartment). However I am extraordinarily lucky all of my dogs are doing to great homes. Four of the owners work from home, two of the owners are stay at homes (one a mom and one a dad) and one can take his to work with him. So I am extremely lucky that I got to place them in homes that they will always be around their owners. |
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-Jessica-
*Bailey* GSP
*Lily* GSP
* RIP: Maggie Mae* GSP
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JCK
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| 02/24/2009 1:07 PM |
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Understand your frustration, but the goal here needs to be to educate. This woman obviously meant no harm when she inquired about the puppy. This doesn't make her a bad person.
It sounds like your response was reasonable, but I also don't understand why you'd be angry at someone for asking about the puppy.
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