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Travis.Price NE Ohio
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| 02/04/2009 6:11 PM |
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Hi everyone. I am feeding Hendrix Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed (the blue bag). I took this at the suggestion of a product representive that was at the petstore one day. I am second guessing myself and having a hardtime getting "un-biased" information on pet food. I want to make sure that my Hendrix gets all the nutrition he needs, i don't mind paying a bit more for it. Is there superior dog food than this or is this suitable, i was assured it was top notch, but again i don't know if she would have told me otherwise.
Also, my wife has began supplementing Hendrix's diet with Eggs and fresh Veggies in the evening (eggs only 3 days week). Should i be worried about this? Hendrix sure likes it. Looking forward to your responses. |
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Kerplunk105 Bucks County, PA
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| 02/04/2009 7:15 PM |
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In my opinion, there are better foods out there for the same cost. My guys get Canidae currently. Innova, California Natural, and Merrick are some other great foods. I don't feed anything with corn or wheat in it. When I'm looking for a food, I want ad much meat in the top five ingrediants, (ie chicken, chicken meal). Also, I don't see anything wrong with supplementing his diet with the veggies and egg, just watch his weight  |
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Elizabeth Leena RIP 11/08-9/17/09 Bliss, the Labrador Tegan, the Weim/Labrador
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KC3 Kansas City
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| 02/04/2009 7:37 PM |
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I have 3 GSPs and I've fed them Nutro Natural Choice Lamb and Rice. My three like it better than Science Diet and ProPlan. Because we have had a cold, dry winter, I recently switched to Innova thinking it might help with the dry skin. I haven't noticed a change yet. I'll probably go back to Nutro since my dogs like it . I did have a dog with a sensitive stomach for a while and the only thing he could keep down was the Nutro Natural Chicken and Oatmeal. I think they have a good product. |
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MowrMowr
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| 02/04/2009 8:38 PM |
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The Whole Dog Journal (www.whole-dog-journal.com/) does a yearly unbiased review of premium dry foods, it just came out a few weeks ago in their February issue. If you PM me your email address I'd be happy to send you a copy.
Strictly my opinion but exactly what you're feeding is what got me into looking for a better food. Corn gluten meal is the 3rd ingredient and it's a cheap filler and can easily cause problems for dogs with allergies. I know that after a few weeks on it my dog was scratching more often than not. I switched to Canidae which was great for years but we ran into allergy problems again when their formula changed. We're still looking for a new food  |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 02/04/2009 9:00 PM |
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Here is a quick and easy way to compare dog food that is actually pretty good. This page gives the rankings:
www.the-puppy-dog-place.com/dog-food-ratings.html
And if you go to this page: www.the-puppy-dog-place.com/dog-food-comparisons.html you get the analysis and can actually plug in you dogs food and score it.
According to this your dog food gets a B which is not bad, but there are better choices.
I feed mine a combo of Wellness canned lamb or venison and Innova Large Breed kibble. In the morning they get just kibble and at night I give them a kibble and canned mix along with a Coat and Skin supplement by California Natural. Just so you know California Natural, Innova and a few others are all owned by Natura. Natura just built their own manufacturing plants in the US so they no longer use the a third party manufacturer. Also, during the dog food recalls Natura was one of the few that was not impacted.
You might also look on this site for the threads where different dog foods are discussed. |
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MOOSE1 Fruitport, MI
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| 02/05/2009 5:56 AM |
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We feed Nutro and my Nutro rep told me for a GSP there is no reason to feed Large breed as they wouldn't consider them a large breed dog. We have our guys on 3 differt types of Nutro Natural Choice as they all have different needs for their food. I honestly think that the rep at the store really didn't suggest the right kind of Nutro for your dog. But even though we feed Nutro and are sponsored by them we still believe that not every dog food is right for every dog. Is there a reason you are second guessing yourself? Does your dog not like the food or not handling it well? We have tried many other foods and our dogs coats and skin are always the best when on Nutro Natural Choice. Good luck in your dog food search. You will find so many different opinions that it becomes hard to decifer one from another in dog food. A good moto to live by is buy the best quality dog food you can afford. There has also been research done that shows that corn is not as bad as many people on the message boards say it is. You just have to make that decision for yourself! |
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Bxr-Linda Oregon
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| 02/05/2009 11:41 AM |
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We are still trying to find the best food for Bo. He has TERRIBLE gas! We've only had him a few months now. I keep thinking that it's stress, and will decrease once he settles in. I'm not so sure!! The Nutro rep I talked to also recommended the large breed formula. In my opinion, a 60 lb. dog is not necessarily "large," but the bag says anything over 50 lbs. I agree with Moose1, there is not one right dog food for every dog. Our first dog was fed one of the cheapest grocery store food, and did fine with it. |
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Travis.Price NE Ohio
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| 02/22/2009 4:16 PM |
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We have made the switch to Nutro Ultra. I got the suggestion from a trainer that we have been working with and the fact that i don't have to switch brands is a bonus. i think it will be good, doesn't seem to be upsetting him too much, although he eats less of it. |
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TessaGA Georgia
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| 02/23/2009 7:07 AM |
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You will find as many opinions about dog food as the number of people you ask. It all depends on what one is looking for, or trying to avoid, in a dog food and ultimately, how well the dog is doing on it. Personally, I try to feed a good quality kibble with no fillers, artificial flavors or preservatives, and not too much grain. I also stay away from Large Breed kibbles, per recommendations of breeders I know and both my vets, but I know that this is a much disputed subject. I currently feed Innova Puppy kibble, and supplement with scrambled eggs, tuna, cottage cheese, canned food (Wellness, Solid Gold, B.G. etc), not all at the same time but rotating it around; I see no problem with it. Here is a dog food review site you may want to consult: http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/ |
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pixie bee
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| 02/23/2009 7:33 AM |
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Reps are brainwashed by the companies they work for. They are not nutritionists,even if they are, they still need to sell to make a living. I sold nutro for years and was a big fan,until my dog got sick last year. FWIW, all food is processed and then fortified. Avoiding certain ingredients and gravitating toward other ingredients is the key, IMO. We had a GSP that did great on Purina One. We tried all kinds of food for haiko and nothing was working out. Thin coat,heavy shedding,gas,loose stools, until we went to Pro Plan.It was my last choice of foods but it works. Our new dog is doing well on it,too. The best food I ever feed my dogs was raw. I'm sure with experimentation you will find a food that works. Don't switch b/c you don't like the ingredients, switch b/c the dog isn't doing well on it. I do not see a need for a GSP to be on a large breed food. Francine |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 02/23/2009 8:54 AM |
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We fed Nutro to two of our dogs for 3 years and we quite happy with their products. But when we got the first gsp we had problems with her coat. we didn't make the connection with her food till she started to lose weight. She was just starting her training and it wasn't keeping the weight on her. The other 2 were still doing great but they were a 3yr old lab gsp mix and a 13 yr old mix. Cocoa went off to training so we kept the nutro. When we brought our 2nd gsp home he started loseing his color. We made the swap to Canadaie and his color came back and Cocoa came back from the trainers and she seemed to do well on the canadaie. After the formula change the gsps didn't do so well but the other two seemed fine. We tried several different brands but didn't have any luck till we went to the sams club exceede brand. Now all the dogs are happy. We lost the older one to old age but all 3 are happy now. I think nutro is a good food for some dogs but just not my GSP's. Like I said the other 2 were fine on it for years and if it wasn't for the coat issues we would prpbably still be using it.
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JeremyS MN
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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ljb0711 Minnesota
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| 02/25/2009 1:05 PM |
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I feed a combination of Nutro Natural Choice Sensative Stomach, Natural Balance LID & AMP, and Chicken Soup. Between all 6 of my GSPs this seems to give each one what they need. The Nutro is great at keeping some at a consistant weight, where the Natural Balance helps to keep my males weight on and gaining weight and I love the Chicken Soup for its ingrediants and lack of fillers. Not to mention all of these foods have no corn in them! I also suppliment my kids (aka gsp's) with yogurt, eggs, cottage cheese, fruits and vegtables, and a varriation of meats as a treat. |
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Travis.Price NE Ohio
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| 07/25/2009 8:51 PM |
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We have made another switch, for some reason Hendrix has stopped eating the nutro Ultra... Don't know quite what the deal is, but he doesn't touch it now? We are quitting nutro altogether now. Hendrix is now eating Blue Buffalo Wilderness(http://www.bluebuff.com/products/dogs/wilderness.shtml)... he seems to like it so far and i don't have to feed him as much. Wish us luck... here are the ingredients, they look okay from my research so far... Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Potato Starch, Turkey Meal, Whitefish Meal, Salmon Meal, Tomato Pomace (natural source of Lycopene), Chicken Fat (preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Oatmeal, Natural Chicken Flavor, Whole Carrots, Whole Sweet Potatoes, Blueberries, Cranberries, Flaxseed (natural source of Omega 6 Fatty Acids), Barley Grass, Dried Parsley, Alfalfa Meal, Dried Kelp, Taurine, L-Carnitine, L-Lysine, Yucca Shidigera Extract, Turmeric, Herring Oil (natural source of Omega 3 Fatty Acids), Dried Chicory Root, Black Malted Barley, Oil of Rosemary, Beta Carotene, Vitamin A Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Niacin (Vitamin B3), d-Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B5), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Biotin (Vitamin B7), Folic Acid (Vitamin B9), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Calcium Ascorbate (source of Vitamin C), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Iron), Zinc Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Zinc), Manganese Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Manganese), Copper Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Copper), Choline Chloride, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite, Salt, Saccharomyces cerevisiae, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Bacillus subtilis, Enterococcus faecium. |
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MowrMowr
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| 07/26/2009 10:52 AM |
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| Awesome choice! I'd love to hear your thoughts in a few weeks/months once he's been on it for awhile. |
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rrogersgsp Cordelia, California
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| 07/26/2009 11:40 AM |
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I've been feeding my dogs Pro Plan Shredded Large Breed. During hunting season I switch to Pro Plan High Performance. I have tried other foods. The two things that are most important to me are I do not want any by products (fillers). The other thing I look at is how much of the food is being obsorbed into the dogs. I see how many times they go to the bathroom during the day and how healthy it looks. The less times they go the more the food is being obsorbed which also means less food you have to feed them. And with the prices of dog food that helps. |
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MelB
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| 07/26/2009 2:36 PM |
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I use both Eagle Pack Holistic and Wellness Core. I've found that foods with less grain in them, or no grain not only helps their coats, but also seems to be easier to keep a constant weight on the dogs. I cannot feed a lamb based food as every dog in the house gets gassy. The cocker can't do beef based foods. I used to feed RAW and if it wasn't so expensive to do I'd have continued it. My dogs did fantastic on it, it just got cost prohibitive in this area. |
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maquignon
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| 10/31/2010 8:09 PM |
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You can get much better for less money. the only thing more overpriced than Nutro is Science Diet. Nutro prides itself in not using "ground yellow corn" but they use corn gluten meal which is worse. The corn gluten is the protein part of the corn and lower quality foods use it to boost the percentage of protein cheaply instead of using meat. That is why it is much more important to look at the quality of the protein before the percentage. It doesn't matter how high the percentage is if it comes from a poor protein source like corn (lowest on the protein digestibility scale). They "split" ingredients (how many times is rice listed?) They also use soy, which is one of the most common allergens. They use no fruits and vegetables like the higher quality foods do. They do not use chelated minerals. They use about half the amount of glucosamine that the better foods do. The 17 to one ratio of Omega 6 to Omega 3 is pitiful. The worst part is the menadione. That is reason enough not to use this food. Blue Buffalo, Wellness, Merrick, Taste of the Wild, Canidae and Solid Gold are all much better choices for about the same money. Chicken Meal, Ground Rice, Corn Gluten Meal, Wheat Flour, Rice Bran, Rice Flour, Chicken, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Plain Beet Pulp, Natural Flavors, Soybean Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Sunflower Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Potassium Chloride, Salt, Egg Product, Dried Kelp, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), Biotin, Copper Proteinate, Niacin Supplement, Potassium Iodide, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Sodium Selenite, Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid. Guaranteed Analysis Crude Protein (minimum) 26.00% Crude Fat (minimum) 12.00% Crude Fiber (maximum) 5.00% Moisture (maximum) 10.00% Linoleic Acid (minimum) 3.50% Calcium (minimum) 0.80% Calcium (maximum) 1.30% Phosphorus (minimum) 0.60% Phosphorus (maximum) 1.30% Zinc (minimum) 200 mg/kg Vitamin E (minimum) 150 IU/kg Ascorbic Acid (minimum)* 35 mg/kg Alpha-Linolenic Acid (ALA) (minimum)* 0.20% Glucosamine (minimum)* 250 mg/kg Chondroitin Sulfate (minimum)* 200 mg/kg |
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