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01/20/2009 9:03 AM  

Hello! My name is Elizabeth.  I live in Bucks County, near Philadelphia PA.  I recently acquired an 11 week old GSP/Brittany puppy. She came from an accidental litter. Her name is Leena. 

She is adorable, loves to cuddle and a little crazy-lol. I am hoping to do agility with her in the future.  I am also considering field trials...but I'm not sure how that would work since she is not a purebred?

I have a 9yo Labrador that is a certified therapy dog.  I have done rally with her in the past.  I have trained (14) Service Dogs as well as fostered serveral dogs for rescue, (GSP's, English Pointers, Labradors, Goldens, mixes).

I do have a few questions as Leena is my first GSP puppy...

1. On average how long does it take for them to get housebreaking and crate training? I have had her for a week now and she just doesnt seem to understand it...haha.  I have had tons of puppies and she just seems a little...slow LOL

2. Are GSP's prone to seperation anxiety? She seems to want to be with me 24/7 and screams her little head off whenever she cant-i.e. in the crate, (which just today she is seeming to get a little better with), and in the back of my Subaru.  I usually just ignore her.

3. Can anyone recommend a good food for her? She is currently on Canidae.  Her previous family had her on Pro-Plan and I wanted something of higher quality. She is just soo skinny :( My Labrador has been on a raw diet, (made by Bravo), for a little over 8 years.

4. How are GSP's with cold weather? Leena does have a coat I bought her, but she still seems soo cold outside.  She is already quite active and we are lucky enough to have tons of places I can take her off leash to run around.

Here are some pictures of her..as you can see, she looks 99% like a GSP.

Leena with her new toy

Leena on the bed

Leena in the woods

I look forward to learning a lot and getting to know everyone


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01/20/2009 9:08 AM  

 welcome, she is really beautiful


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01/20/2009 10:27 AM  

Hi Elizabeth,

Welcome to the forum, your little one is cute!  We have a discussion going on here about a GSP/Brittany mix with someone asking about what one would look like since so many people seem to have one of each.  You might want to add your photos on that thread.

As for your questions... I also do therapy dogs, although most of mine have been shih-tzus we have been training Wachter our GSP to be therapy as well.

As for seperation anxiety.. This breed tends to be very velcro and social, so if you have her kenneled, make sure she has some toys, a blanket and other things to keep her company.  Also you might want to consider pairing her with your older dog if they get along.

These are REALLY smart dogs and pick up quickly on any training, especially if it comes with very positive support... Make sure you are taking her out on a regular basis and praising her when she does her stuff outside. As well as letting her know your displeasure WHEN you catch her in the act of making a mess inside... usually it only takes two or three times, especially if she is getting the positive reinforcement for going out.  I have a doorbell attached to my back door, Wachter has learned to ring it when he wants back in.

Cold is a learned tollerance.. as a puppy, I wouldnt keep her out without a coat, you want as many of her calories going to growing and less to staying warm

I hope this helps

Carrie

 

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01/20/2009 11:01 AM  

Since getting her, I have talked to quite a few people who have a GSP/Brittany mix.  All the ones I have seen look exactly like a purebred GSP.

Thank you for the input.


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01/20/2009 11:08 AM  
Welcome to the forum.
Cute little girl,love the name.
Brits have a different temperment then GSPs so you will need to look into that part of her as well.
At this age she needs to be let outside every 1-2 hours to do her business. And I like to keep a leash on the dog and attach it to my foot. This way I can keep a real close eye on the puppy and start to learn to read them.
Puppies are cute but that starts to wear off real quick when the "work" starts.


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01/20/2009 12:06 PM  

Welcome to the forum.  Your pup is a cutey.  As Pixie said, you need to consider the personalities of both breeds even though you pup looks like a GSP.  That said, here are my answers to you questions.

1. On average how long does it take for them to get housebreaking and crate training?

Every dog is different, even within the same breed.  My oldest never had an accident and got it right away.  I got her though at 10 weeks and I think that may have made a difference.  My middle dog, Halo, also caught on quickly.  My youngest (now 8 mos), Ringo, took allot longer.  He had days of brilliance and I would think he got it, and then he would regress and have multiple accidents.  The suggestion about keeping them in the same room or near you is good and does help allot.  I did get to the point with Ringo where I thought he would never get it and them the light bulb came on and he has been perfect since. Just be consistent and keep working with her and she will get there.

2. Are GSP's prone to seperation anxiety?

GSPs love their owners and want to be with them all the time (hence the nickname velcro dogs). Don't give in to your dog when she cries though or you will never get her crate or car trained.  For the crate when you leave her give her her toys and stuff, but you might also want to try turning on the radio or TV as well. As far as the car, start out with short trips of a park or somewhere she will enjoy and when you get there play and good things happen.  It won't take her long to link car and good things.  Again you can try turning the radio on in the car too.

3. Can anyone recommend a good food for her?

Canidae is a good food, you may just need to feed her a little more.  As a puppy she should be eating at least three times a day.  If Canidae does not agree with her there are other good foods out there.  There is already a long thread on food discussion on this forum so just look back on some of the older threads.

4. How are GSP's with cold weather?

My oldest hates the cold, but my two youngsters don't mind it a bit.  Give her some time as she is still a puppy.  Take her out and play with her and she will get to where she likes it. 


Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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01/20/2009 12:17 PM  
I think she looks 100% GSP. Are you sure someone else didn't sneak in there too.
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01/20/2009 12:27 PM  
Thanks guys for the guidance. I do all this stuff with her already..so hopefully she will start to pick it up. lol

She does look 100% GSP...her mom was def a Brittany though; I met her. lol I think her tail is a little short too lol, (it was docked)

Elizabeth
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01/20/2009 4:32 PM  
Oh, she is sweet looking! Comparing her to a couple britts (that live with GSP owners on the board) I'd say her face has a certain bit of Brittany to her. Enjoy her while she's little! They don't stay that way for long. On the good side, that means no more puppy teeth :D

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01/20/2009 4:48 PM  
Thankfully she isnt too mouthy, (yet?).

I can def see Brittany in her face.

Elizabeth
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01/20/2009 5:59 PM  
welcome :) she is very very cute!
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01/21/2009 7:07 AM  
Leena slept through the night last night for the first time-yes!! I am also starting to work with her on commands. She seems quite smart and very food motivated. Her puppy class starts the 7th :)

Elizabeth
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01/21/2009 9:00 AM  

That is fantastic!!  Both of you will love puppy class.


Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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01/21/2009 9:12 AM  

Leena needs the socialization with other puppies <img src=" border="0" src="/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/blue/emoticons/smile.gif" />


Elizabeth
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01/23/2009 7:17 AM  
So, its been two weeks tomorrow that we got Leena. Not a day has gone by that she hasnt either peed in the house or (several) times in her crate. She is let out every 1-3 hours, (and we see her go pee outside!), she is on limited water. Her crate is just big enough to turn around and lay down in. She just saw the vet last weekend and is medically fine.

I am honestly at my wits end with her. I have never had a puppy that was this difficult to crate train. Just last night we came back from a 30 minute off leash walk in the woods. She peed several times on the walk. She came back into the house and went pee 2x in about 45 minutes! Grrrrrrr. She just doesnt seem to get it!

Any suggestions?

Elizabeth
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01/23/2009 7:20 AM  
For some reason its not letting me edit...I just wanted to ad that most of the time we go outside with her, tell her parktime (our word for potty), and then just stand there until she goes. We praise her like crazy every time she goes outside. When she goes inside the house we just tell her no, (we always catch her in the act) and then take her right outside. She is never out of sight from us in the house. She is always in the same room with us.

Elizabeth
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01/23/2009 9:47 AM  
Are you bringing her right back in once she pees or do you give her another 10-15 minutes outside. Some puppies need to go, wait a bit & then go again.

Oh wait, I just read where you took her on a walk & she did the same thing. Hmmm, I'm not sure. Daniel seemed to take forever to get the whole housetraining thing & it was quite frustrating for a while. Once I was able to let him out in the yard off leash & let him come back from his business on his own time he did a lot better. That and a very regimented schedule finally got him so well-trained he wouldn't pee in the house no matter what.

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01/23/2009 10:15 AM  

We have a nice fenced in yard.  So, I let her out or go outside with her. She always does something outside and I praise her.

If she pees inside, I do the same thing..let her out for a bit and she still pee's again outside.  Its not like the inside peeing is little either..its like a full size puppy pee...


Elizabeth
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01/23/2009 10:23 AM  
How about getting some REALLY good treats and rewarding her every time she goes outside. Pretty soon she'll get the idea that outside means yummy treats, and inside means nothing.

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01/23/2009 10:42 AM  

I think you need to be patient just a little longer.  Ringo, who is now 7 mos old, had accidents like you are describing for what seemed like forever to me (up until about 4 mos), then it was like a light bulb went off and he was fine.  You are doing all the right things. Some dogs just take longer than others.

The only thing I might add is be sure you clean up where she is peeing with something like vinegar and water, or Resolve, etc so it kills the smell of pee.  If you don't she may be smelling where she has gone before and peeing in those same general spots.


Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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