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10/21/2008 10:36 PM  

My rescue pup, Sadie, is about 4 months old now. I've noticed that somtimes when she sits, either of her front legs will have this little shake. Is this something normal for a puppy? She was found on the side of the road, (and to us is perfect) but we were wondering if maybe this little shaking could be a sign of a more serious problem (i.e. the reason why someone may have dumped her.) Her front legs seem to have a slight bow, but that could just be the way her legs are built or the way she stands (she has very long legs!) 

It doesn't happen all the time, but often enough that we notice it. Does anyone have any info on this?

 

 

 

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10/22/2008 6:38 AM  

Cute, congrats.  I asked my vet about that also, she said it's a bird dog thing that often means they are tired.  My impression is it went away until recently, now I think he's just cold if he's not running outside! 


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10/22/2008 8:04 AM  
From the thumbnail, her leg(s) do look somewhat bowed. I'd probably have her looked at by a vet. That said, my American Bulldog had that front leg shake from puppyhood to adulthood. I mostly noticed the shake when she was sitting and watching something, so could be excitement? She was a little east-west in the front (meaning her feet went out a little to the outside), so maybe not being completely straight in the front causes those leg shakes. I was never worried about them, as she was walking, running, moving just fine.

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10/22/2008 8:13 AM  

I would ask your vet about it.  Your pup was spayed at a very very very early age. I know rescue required it, but it was in my opinion to early and they should have got an agreement from you to spay when the pup was older.  Not your fault, but something you need to just keep in mind as the dog ages.

Anyway, I don't know if that may be affecting your puppy, but I do know with the larger breeds and especially males having them  neutered early can effect their growth and some articles indicate that it can make the dogs leggier and more prone to leg type injuries.  I don't know how true that is, but my anecdotal evidence is with my own dogs.  Belle was spayed at 6 mos as I had no intention of breeding and wanted to show her in obedience. She was only Field registered (and this was before you could get an AKC registration on a Field Registration) so in order to get her ILP (now PAL) number she had to be spayed.  My vet also thought that was the right time to spay her as well.  So I did.  She is definitely leggier than my other female, Halo, and has had a front shoulder injury (torn bicep tendon). Now I know that breeding plays a role in this as well, and the ortho vet told me he sees lots of torn biceps in hunting dogs. So, it may not be related to the spaying, but it might.  Just something to think about and talk to your vet about.


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10/22/2008 10:58 PM  
Lots of info out there on this, just Google Tremors or Shaking Legs in Dogs/Canines in various arrangements of the words and be prepared to do a lot of reading. Currently it seems there is no consensus as to the causes and is considered as an "Ideopathic"(Unknown) condition.


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10/23/2008 6:31 AM  
My girl's legs do this too. Seems to happen when she has been excercising and I feel it's due to muscle fatigue. Human muscles will do the same thing. None the less, this concerns me as well.

She's now almost 5 months and we've decided not to get her spayed until she's at least 9 months.
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10/23/2008 8:06 AM  
Jack Russells are very prone to something my vet (who also owns Jacks) calls "white dog shaking leg syndrome." It seems to have no effect on the dogs' general health and well-being. Shaking in people can be related to extreme fatigue, after strenuous exercise. Certainly in old dogs, back legs can shake after a lot of exercise. This could be the case with puppies, too, I don't know.

I doubt very much this is related to spaying. I, for one, am very happy when shelters and rescue groups get dogs spayed/neutered young. As one who has done a lot of rescue since the early 90's, I have learned it is much harder to track people down and be sure their dogs are fixed and also some people decide not to!

My Shelties are all fixed when young (6-7 months), my parent's Lab was neutered at 5 months, a Golden years ago at 5 months and all lived long helathy lives or are living with no no helath problems.

Taking a dog to one's vet when concerned, is always a prudent course of action.

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10/23/2008 9:58 PM  
I've seen it in some puppies that are growing to fast. Their tendons can't keep up with the growth. This happens in horses too. With the horses we would just cut back on the feed a little because it can cause lameness issues down the road. I would just ask the vet about it.

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10/24/2008 6:18 AM  

I am taking her to the vet today for her third round of shots, so I will be sure to ask then. It's good to know I am not the only one who has this problem. Hopefully it's just muscle fatigue or something. She has been growing like a weed, though, so maybe her poor little muscles can't keep up with her overall growth.

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10/24/2008 6:29 AM  
Let us know what you vet says, I'm curious.

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10/24/2008 7:33 AM  

You might want to ask your vet about diet.  I have I have been told that since puppy foods promote bone growth this can cause the bones to grow to too fast in comparison to the soft tissue which grows much slower no matter what you feed.  I've talked to several breeders that stay away from the premium puppy foods and switch their puppies over to an adult maintenance food very early, especially for those pups that have that sudden growth burst. 


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10/24/2008 10:00 AM  
Yes, I will ask about this, too. We have her on Nutro Natural Choice Small Bites Puppy Chicken Meal, Rice & Oatmeal Formula. (One cup of this dry food mixed with a heaping spoonful of canned chunky food in gravy by the same company, 3x per day)
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10/24/2008 11:06 AM  
stlbirddogs -- our breeder recommended we feed a premium whole-life food from the get-go with Bo. He has been eating the same food since he was weaned ...

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10/24/2008 11:07 AM  
Definitely keep us posted. My vet said to make sure that mine had large breed puppy food. She said that would help.

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10/24/2008 12:05 PM  

Re large breed puppy food, all vets, breeders and trainers I know stay clear of the large breed puppy food. The Great Dane Lady has a great article on food for puppies, puppy vs adult vs large breed and why, if anyone wants to read up on it.

www.greatdanelady.com/articles/do_i_need_to_use_a_puppy_food.htm

 


 


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10/24/2008 12:23 PM  
My vet said to use the large breed because of the moderate growth rate. Other vets I have spoken with said the same thing. When my pup had this issue I put her on large breed and it fixed it.

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10/24/2008 12:31 PM  
I think the large breed formulas used to be very rich, now a lot are less rich which seems to be the way to go, but I still prefer to go with a premium kibble formulated for puppies that is not too rich.

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10/24/2008 3:52 PM  
All we feed our pups and full grown dogs is Purina Pro Plan.
It is formulated for all ages. It also keeps the pups from growing at an excessive rate, eliminating a lot of growing pains and excess stress on young joints.
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10/24/2008 5:11 PM  
Well, Sadie is back from the vet. He didn't seem concerned about her leg shaking, and said it can just be a growth spurt, and that her muscles and such need to catch up to the rest of her growth. (I am paraphrasing here, I don't remember his exact words.) Anyway, I asked about the food, and he said as long as it's a good quality food she should be fine. He suggested we up two of her meals to 1 1/2 cups of dry plus the spoon of wet food, to add an extra cup for the day, since I mentioned she eats her whole bowl in less than 2 minutes.

I'm relieved to hear that she doesn't seem to have any defects or problems with her legs, though. The vet said he sees this a lot in Dobermans, too.
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10/24/2008 6:31 PM  
Good news...cool!

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