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TessaGA Georgia
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| 10/18/2008 10:53 AM |
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Has anyone's dog ever had any vaccine reactions and if, how severe?
Tessa had another set of shots this morning: rabies, distemper, parvo, leptospirosis, and kennel cough. Plus a microchip. Now (2-3 hours later) she has two egg-shaped lumps at the injections sites (shoulder - not where the micropchip is) and thigh. She is also acting weird: sleeping, pacing, sleeping, pacing, kinda disoriented, trying to play, lying down again, seems queasy and woosy, much like after anesthesia, trembling. But no face swelling, no hives.
Called the vet, he said to give her a benadryl and observe her for now. The trembling may have been because she felt cold, turned the heat on and the tembling subsided some, maybe due to the benadryl. The lump on her leg is huge and painful to the touch. Can I do anything about it to help it go down (compresses, ice)?
Good thing is, I live 5 minutes from the vet school so I can take her in quickly if needed. I am wondering if anyone had a situation similar to this. Never observed this on any of my dogs. |
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TessaGA Georgia
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| 10/18/2008 11:55 AM |
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12:55 pm today...just sleeping now...if I wasn't so worried I would enjoy it and get some things done.
This is not like her

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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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MOOSE1 Fruitport, MI
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| 10/18/2008 12:05 PM |
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| Tundra reacted to a rabies shot and her whole head swelled up like 2x its normal size. I was told this can happen and to make sure she is breathing ok and give benedryl. She was fine the next day. Your girl may be a bit soar thus not feeling like doing much. I know when I get a shot it makes me kind of out of it the rest of that day. Let us know how she is tomorrow! Good luck. |
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tucker WAY NORTHERN MINNESOTA!
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| 10/18/2008 2:17 PM |
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| Ruger is allergic to the distemper booster & can't have it anymore. He is fine with the kennel cough & rabies, Lyme's. Every year he had it the swelling got bigger & bigger where when he was 4 he had a hump on his shoulder like a camel, was very sick & the swelling went down into his neck & throat & almost cut off his breathing. We gave him bynedryl but it only helped slightly. The vet said the next one could kill him. I did a lot of research on this & a lot of vets think there immunity last for probably 3-5 years. There is a test they can do to see what his immunity's are, can't remember the name? |
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Almost Heaven GSP Springfield, WV
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| 10/18/2008 2:24 PM |
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How old is Tessa? Lepto is generally considered a big No-No in Shorthairs until they've at least reached 1 year old and even then, many refuse to give it and some Breeders will actually void their Guarantee if Lepto is given. As for sleeping, both Vaccinations and the Benedryl in particular, will knock a dog out cold for a good long nap. Watch the swelling closely and as Bev stated, any difficulty in breathing... get her to the Vet ASAP! |
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TessaGA Georgia
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| 10/18/2008 3:45 PM |
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Tessa is 15 weeks. That's interesting about the lepto and GSPs. She had her first lepto on Sep. 25 with no ill affects...and another one today. I know the lepto and rabies are usually the culprits. Re lepto, my vet strongly recommends it for dogs with a lot of exposure to water sources. I guess I will do some research...
Tucker, if Ruger was 4 and the immunity should last 3-5 years he'll be a senior then...a lot of vets are now rethinking vaccinated older dogs...maybe he'll be fine then? |
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TessaGA Georgia
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| 10/18/2008 9:53 PM |
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Update. 11 pm: This evening, she started perking up a little, but I noticed blood in her urine. UTI probably but odd timing, and I started feeling a little uneasy. At 8 pm she started shaking again, so I gave her another benadryl. 30 minutes later she started throwing up and that was it - off to the emergency clinic we went. In 20 years of dog ownership, this is our first reaction to a vaccine and the first trip to an emergency clinic for any reason. Of course, as luck would have it, on the way to clinic we ran into a huge police road block. My second one in 20 years. Dang! Long line of cars in front of me being checked. In my stupidity I said to the cop "I'm on my way to the emergency vet" He shone a light on Tessa and had "yeah right" written all over his face. Because by that time she really started perking up. I guess I was lucky that I didn't get searched... By the time we reached the clinic Tessa was as lively as can be, so definitely not critical. She was diagnosed with a UTI unrelated to the vaccinations, and vomiting either due to the vaccine reaction or to the benadryl she received on an empty stomach. They gave her a benadryl injection and a shot for nausea and some antibiotics and send us home. I want to wake up tomorrow morning to my wild & crazy dog... |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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TessaGA Georgia
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| 10/19/2008 8:26 AM |
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It's the next morning and she's pretty much back to normal - big relief. It seems she's still struggling to keep food down but we are taking it slow and so far, it all stayed in. A little on the sleepy side still (worn out by her own spurts of energy). Thanks for all your replies and concern! |
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MOOSE1 Fruitport, MI
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| 10/19/2008 10:01 AM |
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| Well keep us all posted on how she does. Poor little thing! |
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MegC Ellensburg, WA
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| 10/19/2008 11:37 AM |
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WOW! I've never heard of anything like that. It just seems weird that everything hit at once, and the UTI at the same time is just... odd.... have they tested kidney function? Probably paranoia on my part but with all the melamine garbage happening in the last couple years I'd pay to rule it out. Maybe a bad batch or something else that shouldn't have been in the vaccine itself, or perhaps the dog already had something going downhill health-wise that the vaccine pushed over the edge? If I were the vet I'd be seriously considering sending those vials back for testing just to rule that out too. In any case, here's hoping your wild ride is DONE. |
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escampbell
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| 10/19/2008 2:38 PM |
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She may not have reacted to any vaccination, but to the fact that she received so many at the same time. Or she may have reacted to the Lepto. It is also possible for a pup to react to the Lepto, not initially, but the 2nd time. This happened to my oldest Sheltie and is not that uncommon. With all due respect, I am surprised that so many vets still will give so many vaccinations all at once. I now have vets who spread everything out - multi shots, bordatella, Lepto started later (if you wish to give Lepto), rabies, then Lyme (Because of where I live, I choose to give it.)) Talk to your vet about a more conservative vaccination schedule. My pup (now 11 1/2 months) was 6 1/2 months before every vaccination was finished. It takes more time, but is well worth it. Rabies was adminsered all alone, as was her 2nd Lepto. Lyme came last, all by itself. This coming year, when she is due for her 1-year vaccinations, again, I will spread everything out. I am glad your pup is doing better. Eleanor in NJ |
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Almost Heaven GSP Springfield, WV
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| 10/19/2008 2:58 PM |
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| Sage advice Eleanor. |
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Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.
Bruce Shaffer Almost Heaven GSP's
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TessaGA Georgia
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| 10/19/2008 6:18 PM |
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Eleanor, I am completely with you. My vet (actually, his new co-vet) wanted to give her that same set of shots including rabies at age 12 weeks. I said everytime I have a pup, the rabies shot gets pushed at a younger age. I asked him not to give the rabies yet. He reminded me that it's the law that she needs it by 4 months. I said well let's give it to her at 4 months then not 3. Not only will there have to be some precautions next time, I will also never ever again give my dog all shots at once. As you said, could have been system overload, or just one of them, but now how will we know which one? She is still sleeping a lot more than usual, but in between acts normal. |
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pixie bee
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| 10/20/2008 9:18 AM |
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There are many vets in europe who do not give rabbies until minimum 6 months old. I do not give yearly shots, actually, after the puppy shots and aside from rabbies, I don't give any shots. The shots and their affects scare me and what I believe yearly shots does to the immune system causes me to keep my distance. In my life, my father's (80),my husband's and his father's (89)life no dog has ever had any illnesses that yearly shots could have preventd. I count us all very lucky!,Especailly the dogs! It was probably a reaction to multiple shots. If the vet administers the shot incorrectly it could result in a bump that takes a month or more to go away. I know when kids are given boosters the parents are warned about possible side effects and to keep an eye out. Same would go for dogs. Hope everything gets back to normal soon! Francine |
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TessaGA Georgia
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| 10/20/2008 8:39 PM |
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I will be much more cautious re vaccinations in the future. Problem is that vets, boarding kennels, pet insurance, dog schools and therapy dog organizations all require proof of up-to-date vaccinations, so I have to find some kind of happy medium... Tessa is back to normal, the urine looks clear and both lumps have disappeared but bless her heart, in addition to the vaccine reaction and UTI she lost a canine today. |
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Dwayners Toronto, ON
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| 10/22/2008 7:06 AM |
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we had negative reactions to the Lepto vaccine as well. Next time, your vet can give her an extra shot of something to curb the reaction (I forget what it is but the vet will know), they usually only give it to smaller dogs as they believe that larger breeds don't normally suffer from that reaction.
Anyway, ours had vomiting (with some blood in it) and diarrhea (also with blood). I was rather peeved at the office as they maintained it was unlikely but they apologized for it and have been great ever since. |
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TessaGA Georgia
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| 10/09/2009 7:10 AM |
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Update:
You blink and next thing you know one year has passed and she's due for the shots AGAIN!
Tessa was vetted up yesterday. Since she had the reaction last year, we pre-treated her with a benadryl injection, then she was given the 1-year DHPP, corona, 3-year rabies, and kennel cough (without the pre-treat she would have gotten these vaccines on different days). She also got a fecal check and heartworm-ehrlichiosis-lyme test (they test that as a batch), all negative. We scanned the microchip and it reads as and where it should.
We skipped the Lepto shot. My new vet doesn't stock it anymore because they had too many reactions, but will order and administer it upon client request. After some research, I declined. I asked some people I train with and none of them give the lepto - and their dogs are more exposed to water sources than Tessa is.
Tessa was kept at the clinic for observation but apparently she did just fine, and not even the benadryl slowed her down. When I picked her up she was 100% herself. There is not one bump on her from any of the shots. This is much different from last year. We don't know what caused the reaction then, but I suspect either too many shots at once for such a young pup, or it really was the lepto.
When I picked her up, one of the vet techs had her 12-year old GSP at the clinic for shots, and we took them outside for a potty break. Here are Tessa & Megan:

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To live without dogs would mean accepting a form of blindness. [Thomas McGuane]
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 10/09/2009 7:37 AM |
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| Glad the vet visit went well. I suspect the lepto was the culprit last year. Love the picture. |
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