All -

I just watched the link that was posted and am stumped as to why anyone would find it offensive.  Simply put it is a disabled veteran from Iraq talking about what he sees and feels with regard to our being in Iraq.  He is stating his opinion and does so with dignity.  There is nothing that anyone should be offended by in this video. So, what if some do not agree with his opinions and desires.  Isn't that what America is all about.  I thought we were a big enough  country that we could tolerate differences.  If we can't handle this, how on earth do we hope to handle race discrimination, sexual discrimination, the war, the economy, abortion rights, do we explore space or not, or any thing else that requires us to take a position on one side or another?

In closing all I have to say is:

If you disagree you have a method for saying that - Go Vote!!

If you agree you can express that opinion too - Go Vote!!

Thanks to our founding fathers we have that right along with allot of others.

Hogan -

I had actually received the link to that video from a co-worker earlier this week, so I have seen it and thought it was great as well.  That young man was willing to give his life to fight for our amazing freedoms, so I too believe he should be able to say what he likes and if people don't want to watch it, they don't have to.

My husband and I are avid hunters (similar to you, this is one of many reasons we have three beautiful GSPs!), and are very proud to be responsible gun owners so I agree with several comments you have made in your posts.  Please STICK AROUND the board as I'm sure you have plenty of additional good advice, stories, etc. for all of us to share in.

ps to nellipj - We should get together with our dogs sometime - we live in New Lenox (Bluestone Bay) and sounds like we have a lot in common!

GSP_Mom,

That sounds like a great idea.  We are in Lakeview Estates, 10 minutes from you.  We're always up for meeting new dogs, especialy new GSP's!  I'll be gone all day tomorrow (Bears Game), but send me an e-mail and we'll set something up.  Thanks.

Hogan

I guess what bothers me is that people seem to assume that if you are a Liberal that you want to take away everybodies guns. Not so. I think we could find some pretty common ground with the hunters and those who want to protect their families. You would have trouble finding a more avid hunter than my brother and I do have riflles, shotguns and pistols in our home even though we don't hunt anymore. When we lived downtown and my husband worked nights, I slept with a 22 pistol in the headboard (and I knew how to use it.)

Not to hijack my own thread, but are you still using a 22 for home defense?

If so you may want to find something with a bit more meat. A 22 is more likely to make a bad situation worse. If you need to resort to fire power for protection, you want something that is going to have some knock down power. A 22 may give you the additional confidence but it is only going to pi$$ off an intruder.

My wife has expressed interest in something for home defense (for some reason she does not like my 357mag ) We live in a remote location and she is on disability

We are looking at either the 32 H and R mag. or a 32 federal mag.

Knock down power with about 25% recoil, and easier to find with smaller grips for the ladies.

Another thing to think long and hard about, if a bad situation should arise where extreme measures need to be taken. If put in this situation you need to be able to point the gun at somebody and be able to pull the trigger. There are a lot of people if put in a horrible position like this, cannot do it. Then you have double trouble, a bad guy with a gun

we have a few guns in our house, Professionally I had always used a 357...Then after I was not in the game anymore, we still collected and maintained a few, and enjoy going to the shooting range...The last few years my grip as well as trigger pull strength have lessened , from arthritis

Our 9mm's as well as 357's were somewhat heavy and bulky for me.

Greg bought me ( hmmm not sure it really was for me  ....But I love it

Titanium ( Taurus )  2 inch .......5 shot......357.......

It's a cutie, that carries a wallop, and since we DO have concealed weapon permits, it's a dream to  pack ! 

AGAIN........we are not gun freak ...crazy people....but we respect our RIGHTS to own guns and in some scenerios,  find it theraputic to have a little extra insurance, for self defense.... IE      out on the road on our motorcycles.....

Hogan,

HOW DOES your wife get you to GET on that HONEY DO list ??  Here in the great state of Washington, the months of JUNE till October are our biking days.........everything else takes second place......I'm guessing it is the same with hunting ?

AS ALWAYS we advocate SAFE & SANE Gun ownership

Renee'

PS

remember, you can always change the grips !!!!

Hogan,

yes law enforcement, mostly easy going laid back, jobs within the military. As far as taking a job in San Diego.....that's doing HARD TIME  ..JMO

I don't think I would consider law enforcement as a first choice career today, it's really wild out there. I'm just glad there are people who are WILLING to do the job today. My attitude towards it today, must be related to being almost 50 and a little more cautious than I was at 20...Back then I'd have said...bring it on, that all you got ??....there are some perks to getting older  LOL

Renee'

Not sure which colors those might be

As has been pointed out, this is a GSP board.  Topics should be at least related to that, and while I agree that our troops and our freedoms allow us to persue our various GSP activities, it's not a valid topic of discussion here.  I thought about adding a 'politics' forum, but, aside from the fact that there are already lots of political forums, I didn't want to moderate it, and from my experience those discussions tend to spill over into other forums with the associated bad feelings.

That being said, there is still plenty to talk about.  Discussions of guns as they relate to hunting are certainly allowed, discussions of laws that may affect our dog ownership or our rights to hunt are allowed, even that most political of discussion, black GSP's, is allowed.  If we can't get into some serious disagreements over this (a BERETTA?  Come on, we all know Browning makes the best shotguns ) then we're doing it wrong.

Rick

OH MY

I wish I had hunting criteria to share....My last HUNTING life was with my Grandpa.....1974 I know that makes me very young...I'm a young 48

I try to  live VIA everyone else's experiences

 Being all that said, My Rockstar is BORN TO BIRDIE HUNT  Rocky is a high prey energy GSP  breed to track scents and point his prey., A  GSP with HIGH ENERGY!!   With the right owner, trainer Rocky is a GSP who could have  been trained to hunt ,sniff out drugs for a police force!!! He has that GSP high  energy prey drive that keeps going and going and going. Because I have a GSP like Rocky, this forum has been soooo precious and supportive for me Thank you Rick, Hogan, Bean, Tucker, Meg, Moose, Ranger ,Jody and all others on this forum who have given Rocky and I the support, knowlege and caring that we needed thur these high  energy GSP years!!! 

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