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MarieUser is Offline
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08/17/2008 10:21 PM  

When we first adopted Rocky at 12months old, I would have to be outside with a chuck-it tossing him tennis balls for 1hour and half. Then go down and throw a load of wash in and head back outside for another hour ball toss session.  Pretty much got nothing serious done in my house till after 1pm when Rocky would lay down and take a snooze. Well we signed up for our first manners dog class when Rocky was 15 months old. I scheduled my self off of work and did nothing but outside dog activities : ball toss, dog park walks ect to wear Rocky out so he would be good in class. Rocky's sit stay commands were 10 seconds and 15 seconds while the rest of the dogs in class were 3 and 5 minutes GSPs are high energy active dogs that need their pants ran off everyday or they will be destructive. As others have said, a tired GSP is a happy GSP  Best wishes with your new active 8 month old GSP and enjoy high energy


Marie and Rocky, a tall, high energy GSP
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08/17/2008 10:51 PM  

So after all day of playing outside today with Mom, Dad and earlier visiting brother MIke. Rocky is laying down outside. Something he never did as a younger GSP. Just like an Angel


Marie and Rocky, a tall, high energy GSP
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08/18/2008 6:17 AM  
Update on Grady. Was able to get hold of his breeder last night. We've decided that he most definitely needs a job. He also needs a break from me and vise versa. She said she's never had one of her pups get so attached to one person. She said her line is normally the "laid back" version and is content to chew bones or play toys without constant human attention. She acquired a new female last year tho and Grady is a result of the new line and two of the pups turned out the "high energy" version. Anyway, I told her how I have to keep the blinds closed or he leaps at the windows if he can see me when he's out and I'm in. She's coming to watch his morning show soon. :) We're going to try to send him to one of her hunting families for evaluation. They have Grady's littermate brother and are active in all of the things this dog is bred to do. It's not a sure thing but it's a start toward someone else who knows the breed and their abilities better than I do stepping in to help. If it turns out he can change his focus and be a great bird dog, we'll let him go where he can be happy and working. If not, then we'll find a dog trainer who can focus this energy into some kind of obedience and he can stay here. Either way, we'll all be better for it in the end. He's going to get a workout and some training and we can relax more knowing we're doing something positive for him.

Thanks to all for the conversation. M.

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08/18/2008 7:18 AM  
It has been my experience that "fun" exercise only hypes the dogs more and they require a calming down period afterwards.
Exercise that I have found to tire a dog have been jogging,running next to a bike/rollerblades, long,quick pace walks at heel and swimming long distances. I hit tennis balls on one end of the water and start the dog from the other end for the retrieves. When the mind is focused on a long term task the dogs get what I call healthy tired.
And w/o sounding condescending- some of you really need to crate your dogs when they are unattended. I do not think I would wait for the magic 3 year age thing to set in. I don't see how bad habits that have been allowed to set in would go away when a dog reaches a certain age. 3 years old is the age that dogs are considered adults but, the perfect dog? Sorry, I can't see it happening.
Francine


"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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08/18/2008 7:53 AM  
mda,
Where might you be located in WV generally? Breeder? You can PM or email me if you would like to have the opportunity to keep the dog and would be interested in having me work with you and/or your pup.
Check your PM's/email.

Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.

Bruce Shaffer
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08/18/2008 7:56 AM  

A word of caution to the owners of dogs who are chewing power cords.  My brother had a black lab that did this and one day he bit into a power cord and was electrocuted.  He went into cardiac arrest and quit breathing from the shock and would have died had my brother not been home.  My brother knew CPR and although he had never done it on a dog, he did it on his lab and was able to resusitate him.  He took him to the vet and luckily there was no permanent damage.  For some reason dogs are tempted by power cords. I teach mine early and watch them like a hawk to make sure they do not chew on the power cords.  I have three GSPs and they are not the least bit interested in power cords because my bark is allot worse than their interest in the power cord.  I am not mean to them, but I scare them to death as a puppy when I see them thinking about a power cord. It usually only takes one time and that is enough.  I will yell, growl, and pounce and grab them by the scruff.  They get the message really fast.  Hopefully no one ever sees me as they would think I had lost my mind. So long as the dogs get the message, I don't care.


Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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08/18/2008 10:02 AM  

Further to what Francine said, Bo (at 18 mo) is in his crate when we are not able to be with him (he LOVES his "home";). I think we would have likely gone nuts without his crate during his first few months. He did not get the concept of down time and unless we were able to devote 100% of our attention to him, he had to be crated.

Now, he's out when we are home during the day (since he is a pretty good groggy dog from 7 a.m. until 3 p.m.). At 3 p.m. it seems a switch is thrown and he becomes super-energy dog until about 9 p.m. We give him a half-hour nap after his evening exercise (he goes in his crate and we go away) so he can calm down for his last hour or so before bed-time.


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Roxane (RIP: 1995-2009) and Tiger Lily (Cats)
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08/18/2008 10:06 AM  

They require constant attention and time which seems to be the one thing that is not stressed enough about the breed. Mine are 7 and 5 and still get into trouble if Dad hasn't spent enough time with them.

Charlie has attachment issues with me if I am gone he is very upset.  In fact he got mange from attachment anxiety when I left on my first deployment.  He is slightly better now but still won't leave my side if I pack a bag or take the gun out.  In my experience who ever is the primary care giver is irreplaceable to them no matter what. Laila could have cared less about me until I was home with her after her knee surgery now she practically knocks me over when I get home from work.  You definately have to set aside pup time even as mine get older I still have to set time aside with them or they get cranky and start trouble to get my attention. If you are not willing to sacrifice your time then you really don't need to have a shorthair but if you want the most loyal loving dogs then shorthairs are for you.


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08/18/2008 11:08 AM  

Ditto what lugmastro said.  Even if I leave for just a few minutes, when I come back in the house I get a greeting like I have been gone for hours.  I also never lack for a dog to cuddle with or a companion to go do something with.  They are always up for whatever as long as it involves spending time with me.  Since I got my first GSP back in 2003 I now plan week time (usually dog training every night and playtime during the day), weekends (usually hiking, swimming or biking in the area), and vacations (trips to hike the back country in Colorado and New Mexico or beach time on the Texas coast) with the dogs.  I don't really like vacations that take me away from the pack anymore.


Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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08/18/2008 12:19 PM  
I wish I still had that kinda time, but unfortunately weekends and night time is when they get the majority of their Dad time.

It's funny they even go with me to take the trash to the curb. It's been so hot this summer I haven't been able to let them run like I normally do. Hopefully this fall we can all get back to our routine.

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08/18/2008 2:34 PM  
I feel you on this one. My puppy is about 7 1/2 months and has recently decided to be a very bad boy. He has chewed up at least $1500 worth of stuff over this weekend (4 pairs of sandals, video game controllers, my roomate's pdf phone, etc). The thing that confuses me is that it really came out of no where. I was bragging a couple weeks ago to a friend about how he had been doing well for such a young pup. I give him plenty of exercise and people check on him a couple times a day while I'm work. I don't know what to do either as I am at my wits end!
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08/18/2008 2:42 PM  

usschris - Your dog is at the age where they get what I call the puppy stupids. They are doing great seem to be learning and getting everything and then shazam it all goes out the window.  It will pass.  It is a different length of time for each dog, but it doesn't usually last that long.  My advice is to keep doing what you are doing with exercise, training, etc and keep your sense of humor as best you can.


Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato
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08/18/2008 3:35 PM  
Mine ate the siding off the back off my house while chasing lizards. They just get bored sometimes

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