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Trey
SW Iowa
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| 06/26/2008 8:43 PM |
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| Mine get Purina pro plan perfomance from weaning on up. |
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jmmccutc
Corpus Christi, TX
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| 06/26/2008 8:45 PM |
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hey thanks for the suggestions...I did read the ingrediants and see where you all are coming from...i've taken all of the suggestions under advisement and will get back to you in a few days...haha...
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jmmccutc
Corpus Christi, TX
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| 06/26/2008 9:37 PM |
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| Eukanuba Premium Performance? what do you think? |
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singltrak
Las Cruces, NM
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| 06/27/2008 8:14 AM |
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Turned the liver in my dog's coats red, pricey for the ingredients. JMHO. Stick with the ProPlan but unless you are actively running and trialing I doubt you'd need the 30% protein, specially not in the summer. (either ProPlan or Eukanuba).
I'm not a big Euk fan but JMHO, of course. 
Phyllis and the Singltrak Furtribe
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unowhoandwhy
Middleofnowhere, NH
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| 06/27/2008 8:20 AM |
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I switched over to Innova a few months ago & I can already tell the difference in Danie;l's coat, which is softer and less reddish. Layla's cashmere-soft fur had started to get coarse & reddish like Daniel's so I decided it was definitely time to try another kind of food. They also get more extras in their bowls to help keep a good variety. 3 heaping tablespoons of full-fat plain yogurt & an egg every morning and some type of meat and sometimes some other yummy at night.
They have access to kibble all day long, but I promise I won't start a free-feed/structured feed debate.  It's like dog food, very much an individual choice tailored to what the owner thinks works best for their four-legged buddy. |
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Lady Layla - 1/2006 |
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wgspr rescue
Milwaukee, WI
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| 06/27/2008 8:22 AM |
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| WGSPR is an Ambassador for Purina Rally to Rescue, so if we do enough Rally showings a year we earn a 1/2 pallet of Purina Pro Plan, which is excellent food! However, every now and then you get a weriod dog in the bunch, like my Miracle, who can only eat NO wheat/corn/additives, so she gets Nature's Recipe venison dry food. Cleared her skin conditions right up fast. |
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Lisa C. Rossman
WI GSP Rescue, Inc (wgspr.com)
"Until there are none, rescue just one!"
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tchrisman
Shapleigh, ME
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Posts:108
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| 06/28/2008 1:36 PM |
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We feed Eukanuba Sporting performance and Iams in the green bag. The sporting performance is really nice feed, but it's not right for every dog. I have one who looses weight on it. We speculate it's like the Adkins diet, with more fat and protien than his body wants.
On the other hand, we're feeding it to a lactating bitch right now, and nothing we've ever tried has been better. Dove is getting fat while nursing and keeping her coat (so far). We feed Eukanuba & Iams because Dr. Amanda gets free feed from them for being a stocking veterinarian, and their breeder program is better than Purina's. For every 5 bags of Euk we buy, they give us a free one (turn in 6 proofs of purchase 1 from the free bag, and 5 that you buy).
I also have had good success from Purina's ONE product as well as the ProPlan. Again, I don't think the quality jump from ONE to ProPlan is as great as the price jump.
Some dogs just seem to do better on certain foods. If you have good coat, good muscle tone and proper weight, no need to fool around with feed. If you don't, a minor change can produce big differences.
For dogs with real troubles, there is an allergy screening that your vet can do. It's not cheap, but when you are hunting and pecking trying to figure out what's wrong, it's worth it. My MiL's dog's report came back as thick as a magazine. The thick part the list of everything she was allergic to. The thin part was every food she COULD eat. Funny thing is the list included one relatively inexpensive food that is easy to find at the grocery store. I can't remember which it was, but we'd not have checked that brand's label. So the test will likely pay for itself in reduced feed costs. |
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WildRose
Seymour Texas
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Posts:471
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| 06/28/2008 10:40 PM |
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Posted By singltrak on 06/26/2008 7:25 AM
I don't agree with asking your vet...many will automatically say Science Diet since they do offer deep perks for most vets to place their product in their offices.
Phyllis I certainly agree with the above. More importantly let me ask you this. Have you ever seen a working dog fed any formulation of Science diet that didn't look like an Ethiopian on his way to a relief camp?
They all appear to be protien deficient (thin stringy muscling) as well as thin skinned (can't put weight on them) and I've never seen any of them with any endurance in the field. CR |
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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singltrak
Las Cruces, NM
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| 06/29/2008 7:55 AM |
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LOL, Beverly ! So, so true! The canned I/D is like something out of a wallpaper paste manufacturer and smells kind of like it also. And, Charlie, I can't recall ever even SEEING bags of SD in any trialer's rig, accccckkkkkk!
Exactly on point (heh) with the senior dog...why NOT let them eat what they want, what is it gonna do, kill them? (that's said very tongue in cheek for you who don't know my skewed sense of humor) When both my elderly dogs were in their last days, I would have fed them ANYTHING, even filet' mignon, if it had helped keep them alive.  As I recall, they both enjoyed a lot of those satin balls without much drama.
Phyllis and the furtribe
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BEANS
Washington state
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| 06/29/2008 11:34 AM |
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when we got Bean, her (owner) (captor)................told me he fed her whatever was ON SALE
I was so disgusted by his lack of concern, I decided to just go with the food I'd fed my last Lab, It had to be better than what she was used to...and she'd had a litter, during her time at this household, I have no idea, what he did with the puppies....BUT you get my drift, about her nutritional status
SO I feed Nutro Natural Choice bag says with Glucosamine & Chondroitin I I buy the Lamb Meal & rice small bites................SO FAR so GOOD been about 18 months, and I'm no expert, but she seems to like it and I LIKE her color & coat
Does anyone have any knowledge of this brand ??? I've not seen anyone mention it...
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 06/29/2008 4:23 PM |
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Beans - Try rating it yourself (use this link www.ddgnevada.com/HOWTORATEYOURDOGFOOD.pdf) I have tried this test on several dog foods and it is pretty good. They already have a Nutro product rated at the end of the test, but I don't think it is the one you use. My girls like some of the Nutro treats, but I have never used their dog food. As I said in an earlier post, if your pup has a good coat, is healthy, right weight, has lots of energy, etc., then I wouldn't mess with what is NOT broken. Keep feeding what you are feeding. It is really easy to get into a guessing game on dog food and there is not one size fits all, it is what works for you and your dog.
Beans sure is lucky to have a mom and dad who love her so much. You do really good by your furbaby . |
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singltrak
Las Cruces, NM
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| 06/29/2008 6:51 PM |
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I fed Nutro Max back in 88-89, then they changed the formula, so I went with the Nutro Natural Choice L/R (had a girl allergic to the ethoxyquin they used back in the early 90's as a preservative) so switched out of Nutro and into Eukanuba...dogs turned red...nope. Back to ProPlan. That worked okay for awhile (3-4 years) and then I switched everyone over to Exceed Lamb and Rice (Sam's Club brand but made by Pro Plan and tons cheaper) Okay, but I needed more weight and the Exceed Chicken was too HOT for my non-trial dogs. Several brands later..(and 20 years) we use Canidae and ProPlan Chicken. Rico, the pup at Terry's for summer camp is eating Pro Plan Performance and starting to look like a dog again, rather than an Ethiopian refugee...needed more protein and a higher fat ratio. So, its all in what your dogs like, what they will eat and what they do well on...
Phyllis (who wouldn't go back to Nutro, but if it works for you...hey) |
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WildRose
Seymour Texas
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| 06/29/2008 9:54 PM |
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Something appropriate for the topic.:
Menu Foods Pet Food Recall
Claim: A number of pet food products have been recalled due to a possible association with kidney failure-related illnesses and deaths of cats and dogs.
Status: True.
Origins: The massive recall of pet food products manufactured by Menu Foods that began in mid-March 2007 (after those products, sold under a variety of brand names, were linked to kidney-related illnesses and deaths in a number of cats and dogs) has been a confusing and worrisome issue for consumers. Initial reports that all the suspected products had been recalled, that only can and pouches of Menu Foods wet food were affected, and that the
problem was due to a form of rat poison (used as a pesticide) present in wheat gluten obtained from a foreign supplier have all since been contradicted.
FDA testing of Menu Foods' products did not turn up evidence of rat poison, and the contaminant now suspected is melamine, a chemical used in the manufacture of plastics and as a type of fertilizer. Melamine has been found in wheat gluten (which serves as a binding agent and source of protein in pet foods) imported from China and used by Menu Foods, but toxicologists are unsure whether it is sufficiently toxic at the levels detected so far to have caused the reported cases of kidney failure in cats and dogs.
Potentially contaminated shipments of wheat gluten have also been tracked to Hill's Pet Nutrition, Nestlé Purina PetCare, and Del Monte Pet Products, and all of those brands have issued voluntary recalls of some of their products as well.
We have compiled as comprehensive a list of recalled pet food products as possible from the information available to us, but pet owners should be sure to check all of the following sites to determine whether a particular brand (and form) of pet food is currently under recall:
a.. Menu Foods (cat products)
b.. Menu Foods (dog products)
c.. Hill's Pet Nutrition
d.. Purina Pet Foods
e.. Del Monte Pet Products
f.. FDA (Pet Food Recall)
Brands and labels of pet foods that have been recalled so far include:
Recalled cat foods
Americas Choice, Preferred Pets
Authority
Best Choice
Companion
Compliments
Demoulas Market Basket
Eukanuba
Fine Feline Cat
Food Lion
Foodtown
Giant Companion
Hannaford
Hill Country Fare
Hill’s Prescription Diet m/d Feline Dry
Hy-Vee
Iams
Laura Lynn
Li'l Red
Loving Meals
Meijer's Main Choice
Nutriplan
Nutro Max Gourmet Classics
Nutro Natural Choice
Paws
Pet Pride
Pounce Meaty Morsels Moist Chicken Flavor Cat Treats
Presidents Choice
Price Chopper
Priority US
Save-A-Lot Special Blend
Schnucks
Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Cans
Sophistacat
Special Kitty Canada
Special Kitty US
Springfield Prize
Sprout
Stop & Shop Companion
Tops Companion
Wegmans
Weis Total Pet
Western Family US
White Rose
Winn Dixie
Recalled dog foods
ALPO® Prime Cuts in Gravy
Americas Choice, Preferred Pets
Authority
Award
Best Choice
Big Bet
Big Red
Bloom
Cadillac
Companion
Demoulas Market Basket
Dollar General
Eukanuba
Food Lion
Giant Companion
Gravy Train Beef Sticks Dog Snacks
Great Choice
Hannaford
Happy Tails
Hill Country Fare
Hy-Vee
Iams
Jerky Treats Beef Flavor Dog Snacks
Laura Lynn
Loving Meals
Meijers Main Choice
Mighty Dog Pouch
Mixables
Nutriplan
Nutro Max
Nutro Natural Choice
Nutro Ultra
Nutro
Ol'Roy
Paws
Pet Essentials
Pet Pride - Good n Meaty
Presidents Choice
Price Chopper
Priority Canada
Priority US
Publix
Roche Brothers
Save-A-Lot Choice Morsels
Schnucks
Shep Dog
Springsfield Prize
Sprout
Stater Brothers
Stop & Shop Companion
Tops Companion
Wegmans Bruiser
Weis Total Pet
Western Family US
White Rose
Winn Dixie
Your Pet
Pet owners who think their animals may have been affected by contaminated products should contact a veterinarian and their local FDA office if their pets begin exhibiting symptoms of kidney failure (e.g., lethargy, loss of appetite, vomiting). Cats are much more likely to be affected than dogs.
Additional information:
Recalled Cat Product Information
(Menu Foods)
Recalled Dog Product Information
(Menu Foods)
Last updated: 2 April 2007
The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/menu.asp
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gspdognet
Lake St. Louis, MO
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| 07/11/2008 2:03 PM |
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Welcome to the GSP group! Let's see some pictures.
I've fed both our boys Royal Canin for over 2.5 years now and they have great coats, nice energy, no allergic reactions, and no trouble eating when I put the bowl down. Occasionally I add 1/2 a can of Merrick food (Working Dog Stew) and also use the Satin Balls recipe for training treats. I've tried Evo and 1 became allergic. Our field trainer uses National brand and I noticed my dog's coat became just stunning.
So probably no help here, but I agree with the majority in that you have to try on your own and figure out what works best for your babies.
Have a great day! |
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GSP_Mom
New Lenox, IL
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| 07/11/2008 2:49 PM |
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Hello and welcome! Sounds like there's a little of everything as far as what food works for each of us, but for what it's worth we feed our three Iams and then put a little yogurt or cottage cheese on the dry food in the morning meal. They all have nice coats, no stomach issues, etc. but I do believe it depends on the individual dog what will work best for you.
Have fun with the pup! |
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ccrgsp
south carolina
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| 07/11/2008 6:37 PM |
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forgive me for not going back, at the moment, and reading the whole thing again, but what % of protien and fat you y'all feed?.....pick my fella up today and she's been feeding them purina pro plan, large breed formula puppy food.....i picked up a sample of apex chic and rice the other day, but bc he just put some in a bag, i don't have the specifics....the sample bag of purinia doesn't have the specifics on it either....she said to be sure and feed a high protien though
again, sorry for not reading this all again....watching him sleep and the busch race just started.....i've got pictures, but the cord is at my office....i'll have some posted monday...thanks y'all |
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Life is great when you get a hug and kiss from your wife. Life gets even better when you have a cold beer and a loyal dog.
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stampwithdeb@alltel.net
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| 07/25/2008 9:41 AM |
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Hi,
I just found this site today and am excited as I pick up my gsp puppy Aug 3. The breeder is currently feeding VF complete. His GSP's look healthy but I am not an expert  Anyone currently feeding this or have any experience with it? I have read through the posts and no one has suggested it as one they (those that have posted) would recommend.
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everbell
Kanata, ON
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| 07/25/2008 10:10 AM |
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Texas Belle thanks for providing that food evaluator link.
By my count, the food we give Bogart, TLC, scores a 120. |
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Joce and Rich
Bogart and Shiraz (GSPs)
Roxane (RIP: 1995-2009) and Tiger Lily (Cats)
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ccrgsp
south carolina
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Posts:90
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| 07/25/2008 11:04 AM |
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i agree with everbell....the fella who runs a local pet shop has these handout and ratings for all the foods he carries....what i feed maggie and wyatt scores a 120....
funny, though, that i can't find a thing about this food online....it's called apex and is $37 / 40 lb bag |
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Life is great when you get a hug and kiss from your wife. Life gets even better when you have a cold beer and a loyal dog.
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