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jmmccutcUser is Offline
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06/25/2008 6:04 PM  

Hi, I'm new to the forum and to the world of GSH's.  I just got an 8 mo male, Beau.  I was wondering what brand of food you all recomend....His previous owner was feeding him Purina Puppy Chow...i know my parents feed our Lab Proplan? is this a better choice? or what is recomended for this breed?

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Jake

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06/25/2008 7:22 PM  

Welcome to the forum, and don't forget to post pictures. 

With regard to the food, a good high quality puppy food 3 times a day will work.  Later when she is ready for adult food, again a good high quality food.  Sometimes you need a high protein food as GSPs are very high energy and burn off the calories.  I am getting another GSP puppy in abouit 5 weeks and I am looking at the Innova puppy food.  I feed my two adult GSPS a combo of EVO beef large bite kibble and Wellness lamb or venison canned.  I feed puppies three times a day, and my adults twice a day (kibble only in the AM and canned mixed with kibble, yogury and salmon in the PM). I think the important thing is high quality.  You will have to adjust the amount based on your pup. 

I also use good high quality treats like Mother Hubbard, California Natural, etc.  I also make my own treats as I know the ingredients and it is cheaper.

Good luck with your puppy and have fun.


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06/25/2008 8:26 PM  
We feed Eagle Giant breed puppy to our 5 month old. Good weight retention and a nice shiny coat.
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06/25/2008 9:11 PM  
I've used both Eukanuba Adult Large Breed and Eukanuba Lamb and Rice for my GSP's and they seem to do well on either one - I believe it's the "premium" version of Iams. Not to be too graphic, but if you walk your dog in an urban setting and have to pick up the poop, Eukanuba poop is usually pretty firm and easy to pick up - hey, as long as it's good for the dog it doesn't hurt to consider these things, too. :) Both my past and current boys also had/have really nice coats on the Eukanuba - I was told it was formulated for show dogs, but I don't know that for sure. I've heard good things about Innova. I also buy the Mother Hubbard treats - Hans loves them.

Good luck - I know you will just fall in love with your Beau, if you haven't already.

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06/25/2008 10:43 PM  

The best bang for your buck in dog food by far is Diamond Premium adult.  There's no reason at all to feed a GSP a "large breed" specialized feed.

There are at least twenty quality feeds on the market.  Pro Plan in my opinion is way over priced for what you are getting, purina dog chow is somewhere between low and poor quality.

I've raised a couple of hundred GSP's on nothing but diamond and it's what all my client dogs eat when they are here for training.  Never had a problem, and the longevity and overall health of my own dogs could not be better. CR


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06/25/2008 11:45 PM  

Believe it or not, we have a very sensitive  digestive tract GSP If we give Rocky any meat Pork, beef , sausage, beef bones ect he developes instant diarrhea. So the poor boy cannot have any of those kind of treats. Last week a friend gave Rocky 3 high value protein chicken treats from an exclusive pet store and shortly Rocky had the runs. So on that note, after trying different brands of dog food, found Canidae dry dog food mixed with 2 table spoons of canned Canidae is the best for Rocky. Rocky loves his Canidea and circles 3 times before we set the dish down Welcome to our forum and best wishes with your new GSP


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06/26/2008 7:12 AM  

From everything I've heard and the research I've done...the most expensive food is not always the best.  The first 4-6 ingredients are supposed to be the most important.  You want to find quality, protien rich ingredients instead of fillers.  You are going to hear good and bad experiences from people on almost any brand of dog food.  Listen to the adivice of a feed store you trust or use what your vet suggests.  I would ask your vet what he feeds his dog...probably couldn't go wrong there.

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06/26/2008 7:18 AM  
this is exactly what i've read chris....everyone is going to have a different opinion about what is the best, but i think it's better to use this advice as a place to start...i've got a list of brands that have been suggested and will check them all out when it's time to buy my guy some food.....check the frist 5 ingredient, no corn or wheat products (or as little as possible), no by products, and plenty of protien....am i on the right track?.....just bc someone says it's the best, doesn't mean our gsp's are going to agree with that and eat it
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06/26/2008 7:25 AM  
I don't agree with asking your vet...many will automatically say Science Diet since they do offer deep perks for most vets to place their product in their offices. You are right though, the first five ingredients are the most telling. You don't want soy (undigestible to dogs-lots of filler) and you don't want a lot of fillers, at all if possible. :)
My guys (ages 10 down to 8 months) are all fed Canidae dry (wet down however), and everyone does well. It runs about $ 38 - $ 40 for a forty pound bag. But, have also fed Purina Sensitive Stomach (same as ProPlan Sensitive Systems but a bit cheaper), PMI Chicken and Rice, and Premium Edge Salmon (Made by Diamond). And my puppies (up to about 2 months) always eat Iams Puppy...so, nothing is cast in concrete.

An 8 month old does not need to eat a puppy formula, nor three times a day....unless you are planning to raise a blimpy boy.

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06/26/2008 7:37 AM  
First of all welcome to the forum! Please post some pictures. We love puppies!
I agree with Phyllis about not asking the vet for exactly the reason she stated.
I too feed Canidae All Life Stages & like Marie I throw in some Canidae wet. Webster's digestive track does well on this food & coat is always nice & shiney.
Just remember, if you are going to switch dog food you need to do it slowly. I can't remember how much you introduce at a time. Maybe someone else on the board knows.
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06/26/2008 9:21 AM  

I agree with Phyllis on the vet.  I have a great vet, but they carry Science Diet and that is what they typically suggest.  None of my dogs have ever liked Science Diet, and it really isn't a very good food if you look at the ingredients.  All are right about the ingredients list. Here is a link to a good rating system for dog foods and also has some brands already rated (www.ddgnevada.com/HOWTORATEYOURDOGFOOD.pdf).

I do not know if there is a formula for changing foods, but I normally start with 3/4 of current food to 1/4 new food and gradually over about a week switch over completely.  Of course, there are some dogs, like my Belle, who have stomachs made of cast iron and can eat anything or switch with no problem.  Halo is my picky eater. She eats really slow and has a hard time switching to anything.  My hubby was worried one day  because she wouldn't eat and I was out of town.  So, he started adding sprinkles to her food (shredded cheese) and guess what, now she waits for her sprinkles before she will eat.  If I had been home, I would have picked up the food after about 15 minutes. 

 


Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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06/26/2008 9:23 AM  
What I did to switch my dogs food from one brand to another: Week one: 1/4 new food and 3/4 old food, Week 2 , 1/2 new food and 1/2 old food, Week 3, 3/4 new food 1/4 old food, Week 4, all new food!!! Both Snickers, 10 yr old Chese/Lab and Rocky, 1 yr old at that time did great.

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06/26/2008 10:18 AM  

On second thought you guys are probably right about the vet.  They are probably going to push/promote whatever it is they sell/have a contract w/.  http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/index.php is another good site to compare foods.  Just be mindful what you read in reviews.  There are some crazies out there that are convinced a certain brand killed their dog (while some of these claims can be substantiated w/ all the recalls).  There is also the other end of the spectrum...people that think they know what they're talking about but don't.  The numerous bad reviews on Nutro (even though it came highly recommended from almost everyone I talked to) has been enough to scare me into switching brands.

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06/26/2008 10:58 AM  
great thread i am so glad this topic was brought up. I thought i was doing good by feeding Purina Pro Plan to my pup (the breeders suggestion) but after reviewing the very helpful dog food review sites that were posted I see that there are many things to consider. Thanks for the food review site that was so helpful and now I see i need to change my food to something a lot more healthy and without fillers and other bad things.
This site has been so helpful in showing me many views on issues regarding our GSPs and i have learned a lot and i find it very helpful to keep an open mind to others experiences and advice.
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06/26/2008 12:25 PM  

We feed all of our dogs ProPlan Performance, even the pups, and have had no problems. We feed a lot less of it then I see others say what they feed. Our 63# male and 50# female get 1/4 cup in the morning when the pups get fed and about 1 3/4 cup in the evening. The 6 month old pup gets 1 3/4 cup in the morning and in the evening. The 10 month old gets 1 cup in the morning and 1 3/4 cup in the evening. We like to feed once a day in the evening when the dogs are over 1 year old, but since they are all house dogs we spoil the 2 older ones. They have good firm stools and not a lot! They were all just at the vets for their shots and are where they should be weight wise. During hunting season they will be fed more as need for the extra work. BTW corn is not a filler!!! There are a lot of good dog foods out there and a lot of myths.

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06/26/2008 12:37 PM  
check the frist 5 ingredient, no corn or wheat products (or as little as possible), no by products, and plenty of protien....am i on the right track?.....
No you aren't correct here. In spite of all the hype published by those that don't use corn or wheat, touting that "fact" as making their feeds better it's simply not true.

Dogs need carbs just like they need fat and protein and both corn and wheat provide them in highly digestible forms.

At least 90% of the vets I've talked to state plainly that allergies, (meaning proven by actual testing) to corn in particular occur in less than 1% of dogs.

Most of the companies that are publishing the anti grain hype use terms like "filler" to denigrate the use of particularly corn and wheat but it's flat out a misnomer.

"Bi products" are not at all necessarily bad things. If for example I grind an entire chicken (less the feathers), cook and dry it to a meal, I have by definition "chicken bi-product meal". Now while the ash content in that particular meal would be too high to feed it exclusively, it would be a very good, healthy part of the dog's diet in the right proportions.

All of the major dog food producers such as Diamond, Pro Plan, Iams/Euk earned their market shares largely with producing high quality dog foods that ensure great health and longevity for our dogs. No doubt advertising plays a role, but if the products didn't do what they are supposed to do, then they wouldn't be "the big three". CR


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06/26/2008 1:53 PM  

I think when you look at what to feed your dog, you have to look at the entire picture, not just some of the ingredients, and compare that to the breed, in this case a GSP.  GSPs are high energy dogs that need, in most cases the protein, to keep the weight on when they are working.  I also believe they need the fruits, vegetables and carbs as well as vitamins and minerals to get a well balanced diet. In addition, I want my dogs eating human grade food that has been cooked/processed and packed in a sanitary and consistent manner.  There are lot's of reputable dog food manufacturerers that do that (Innova, ProPlan, Mother Hubbard, California Natural, Canidae, Royal Canin, etc.) and there are others that aren't as good like Purina, Pet Gold and, yes, even Science Diet.  So, do your research and look at the various information that you can find on the net, talk to breeders and vets, and make the decision.  The ultimate test though is your dog.  If your dog is healthy, energetic, with a nice shiny coat, etc. I would say the food you are feeding is fine.  Could it be improved? Maybe, but if my dog is healthy and happy, etc. I wouldn't fix what isn't broke.

By the way, I add things like salmon, yogurt, cottage cheese, green beans, spinach, sweet potatoes, cod liver oil, brewers yeast, etc to my regular dog feed periodically as it is good for the dogs and they love it.  The yogurt and cottage cheese are really good for adding weight .  The salmon and cod liver oil are great for the coat.  Brewer's yeast is a natural flea fighter and good for the coat.  The rest are just good healthy things to add that my dogs like.


Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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06/26/2008 2:10 PM  
I feed my boys Purina Pro Plan Performance also. It's the ONLY thing that will keep weight on Baron. We've tried everything but he runs circles around the yard all day and the Performace formula is high protein. We thought something was wrong with him because he was always so skinny but after we left him at the vet for a week to have every single test run, he actually put on weight because he was in a cage most of the day. All of the tests were negative and the vet said he just has a very high metabolism and runs all of his food off every day! So we tried Science Diet, Canidae, Eukaneba, and Iams and none of them kept weight on him. The Pro Plan has been the best and after feeding it to him for a year his is actually getting a little plump!!

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06/26/2008 2:45 PM  

okay i may have jumped the gun about switching Ruger off of pro plan. He is very healthy, active, has just the right amount of weight on him, has a nice soft and shiny coat (so soft everyone comments about his coat which is almost as soft as rabbit fur) and he has plenty of energy. His stools are as they should be for a healthy dog. So i guess if is not broke..... by the way I work for a company out of England that makes probiotics and fish oils for humans and i have been giving him probiotics and fish oil as well and some anti- microbials too!! Fish oil is great for so many things and i am sure it helps him a lot.

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06/26/2008 8:30 PM  
Posted By Texas Belle on 06/26/2008 1:53 PM

By the way, I add things like salmon, yogurt, cottage cheese, green beans, spinach, sweet potatoes, cod liver oil, brewers yeast, etc to my regular dog feed periodically as it is good for the dogs and they love it.

 

Lots of good comments and ideas here, but I want to second Texas Belle.  I have given my GSP's baby carrots, pieces of broccoli (a cut-up stem) and lettuce, and while I'm not sure why, they really seemed to like these treats in their food.  Have to be a bit careful - there are other threads on this site about foods you should not feed your dog, e.g., grapes and raisins - but a little variety in their diet is probably a good thing. 

 


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