pattyl
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| 06/01/2008 12:07 PM |
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Lola isn't chipped yet because we are going to move. Spot has a Home Again chip. I have the vet check every year when Spot gets his checkup to make sure the chip is readable and in the right place.
When we adopted Lola, they showed us she wasn't chipped. They wanded her while we watched. The people there told us they always check several times because they worry about adopting out pets and learning later they were chipped.
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see'n'spots north central Florida
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| 06/01/2008 10:04 PM |
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I went back & reread this. Am I still missing something? Diamond wrote: "I think it's a little more practical than micro-chipping (at least for me) because any ordinary person can call the number on the tag and get him back to me...they don't need a scanner." Kal's PetWatch.com microchip included a plastic tag w/both the ID# & an 800# "any ordinary person" can use. A strange huge Pitmix surprised me out here oneday. Fortunately he was happy & had a similar mircochip tag, but still nearly knocked me down & seriously set back my GSP. I called the 800# w/ID# & learned it belonged to a neighbor. Premicrochip, I once lost a Dobie after the loop on his collar broke, leaving his tag on the ground near the end of the long tether. Also lost him once when he slipped out of the collar backwards leaving his new, riveted to collar, brass nametag & dog tag on the ground! Yes, it did occur to me he might've been stolen. This dog had been abandoned a very long time (cared for by landlady a very long time & been adopted by me a very long time) by a previous evicted tenant. While he was missing, the Dog Warden called me several times to try to ID dead black & tan male Dobies w/o tags, hoping to resolve ID! I'm considering a tattoo in addition to the microchip. Too many people comment on Kal & that collar w/tags comes off mighty quick! |
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singltrak Las Cruces, NM
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| 06/01/2008 11:25 PM |
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Posted By pattyl on 06/01/2008 12:07 PM
Lola isn't chipped yet because we are going to move. When we adopted Lola, they showed us she wasn't chipped. They wanded her while we watched. The people there told us they always check several times because they worry about adopting out pets and learning later they were chipped.
Good idea to check several spots...many times folks can miss the area, or chip might have migrated, also. Your first sentence, though....makes no sense to me. Moving is one of the very reasons you might want to have everyone chipped ahead of time. You would not only have your name, but also a contact person who would be able to know your whereabouts. What if you should get moved in, and Lola should get lost somehow, and not know how to find her way to the new house ?
I'd worry, but then I'm a worry wart. 
Phyllis and the furtribe
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jdavis Richwood, Tx
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| 06/02/2008 7:14 AM |
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Wow, thanks for the feedback! I know that AVID is only the one time fee and I believe they said it was 18 + tax/year for HA. My vet does not do microchipping, but there are several around that do. Everyone said it would be at least 30 bucks for chipping them and for the first year with HA. I also was told that the chips for HA work overseas (maybe they have a different scanner type there?) and that is the main advantage to HA as opposed to AVID. Also, the HA scanners will read AVID chips and I could 're-register' my AVID chips with HA to have all my dogs on one account with one company.
I think I will travel the hour to get Duke chipped with AVID. If AVID is read by the HA scanners and only has a one time fee, that is good enough for me. This way, I don't have to transfer info, nor pay 60ish/year to keep my dogs on record. Thanks again!
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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hjackson West Mansfield, Oh
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| 06/02/2008 8:15 AM |
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I've never had to pay a yearly fee for home again either |
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tchrisman Shapleigh, ME
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| 06/02/2008 12:59 PM |
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Thanks for the info folks. I think we're going to order some Avid chips.
When did you other folks register your Home Again chips? They bill your card every year automatically. It may be a new idea. My wife's veterinarian office carries the Home Again chips and were unaware of the issue until I tried to register my pup with them. |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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hjackson West Mansfield, Oh
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| 06/02/2008 3:01 PM |
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I paid with a check.
I am getting ready to order some home again chips in a few weeks before I do some OFAs
so i'll see if it has changed any - I can order them singely at www.upco.com for $13 a chip plus applicator. |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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Navilla Lawrenceburg, IN
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| 06/02/2008 4:09 PM |
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We have Home Again because that is what the rescue gave him. Our vet scans him every time we go in, but for some reason, it doesn't always pick up. |
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Caryl, Dave, Baby Logan, and Osiris Lawrenceburg, Indiana
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carlower1 Kansas
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| 06/02/2008 4:29 PM |
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Posted By pattyl on 06/01/2008 12:07 PM
Lola isn't chipped yet because we are going to move. Spot has a Home Again chip.
You might want to consider chipping Lola before you move. Just in case something happens to her during the move or right after you get to your new place.
Carrie
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hjackson West Mansfield, Oh
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| 06/03/2008 11:41 AM |
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I could only find where you buy them in groups in 10 but it breaks down to about what I pay singley for the home again. I have a friend that use the AKC chip - she orders them by the group everytime she has a litter. I am ordering the home again tomorrow when it gets here I'll look careful over the paper work
Posted By Texas Belle on 06/02/2008 3:25 PM
This link was just sent out on the gsp dlist and it is applicable to this topic so I thought I would post it. Apparently AKC CAR has a new and smaller chip available. You can read about by following this link: www.akc.org/news/index.cfm. I am going to ask my vet about it when I get ready to microchip my new pup.
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 06/03/2008 12:22 PM |
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Another perspective on microchipping from another email I got today:
"I happen to know of several people who have used the Avid chips only to have them migrate as the dog grew. Have known them to move to the top of the skull, into the neck area and down the leg. This isn't to say that they all cannot do this given circumstance but I have been told by a few owners as well as medical professionals that they ( Avid) have a "history" of migrating. I know that the Home Again chips have a small opening on each end similar to a sewing needle that allows the muscle tissue to grow through the opening and hold the chip in place. I do not know if other brands have this same feature. Irregardless....we choose to only use the Home Again microchip and have never had any adverse effects."
I do not know if this is true or not, but I found it interesting and worth looking into if you are about to microchip your dog.
So, I did a little research on the Internet and came across a pretty good FAQ on microchipping that I thought I would share: www.adobepet.com/library/microchip.htm.
Seems that the migrating microchip may have been a problem at one time, but most (if not all the chip manufacturers) have corrected this issue (not to say it couldn't still happen, but it is apparently not as common as it used to be). Also, came across an alert on the AVID site that states that the new AKC Trovan chip is on a different frequency (most chips in the US use 125 kHz which is what AVID, AVID Euro, and Home Again use) and may not be easily read by current scanners (AKC Trovan is 128kHz). Of course, they will say this as they want to sell their chips, but again worth an investigation.
With further investigation I found another article that addresses the issue of readers and in particular the AVID vx Trovan claims (www.rfidnews.com/stoddardmis.html). You can read the article and decide for yourself.
Hopefully, in the near future there will be a universal reader that reads all the frequencies (125kHZ, 128kHz and 134kHz). Sounds like the AKC is pushing the universal reader concept. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
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tchrisman Shapleigh, ME
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| 06/03/2008 1:34 PM |
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Colt's chip migrated and sits atop his shoulder blade. I believe all they did to the chips was make the surface rougher so the tissue would adhere better.
Home Again should be giving the chips away like Gillette used to do with razors.
I had to root around, but I found this on their site. It wasn't in the FAQ or anything, it was in the TOS. Who reads the terms of service?:
"When you enroll in the Service, you authorize Schering to charge your credit card for the activation fee and annual subscription fee stated on the enrollment and authorization form for the Services, as well as for any and all other fees you may incur in connection with your utilization of the Services. You further authorize Schering to charge your credit card automatically on a recurring basis each year for the then-current annual subscription fee. Schering will advise you by electronic mail or in writing at least ten (10) days in advance of the annual renewal date of any change in the subscription fee. You understand that, once charged, subscription fees for the Services are non-refundable. You agree and represent that all information you provide for the purpose of enrolling in the Services is accurate, complete and current, and you agree to notify Schering of any changes to your credit card information, including changes in billing address and expiration dates. If Schering does not receive payment from the issuer of your credit card, you agree to pay all amounts due upon demand directly to Schering, and Schering further reserves the right to either suspend or terminate your subscription in such circumstances. In the event of any failure by you to make payment, you will be responsible for all reasonable expenses (including attorneys' fees) incurred by Schering in collecting such amounts. ..."
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Almost Heaven GSP Springfield, WV
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| 06/03/2008 2:44 PM |
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Hey Texas Belle & HJackson,
That was me that started the topic on GSP-L.
I've decided to go with the AVID Breeder packs, specifically the "Friendchip Starter Kit with Prepaid Pet Trac enrollments, so that I am ALWAYS a point of contact.
Things I've learned in my search to begin not only chipping all my pups and dogs, but Client dogs that the owners wish to have chipped when here for training is:
1)Migration issues have been pretty well resolved by all of the Mfr.s from earlier models and in AVID's case, they have a gel type of coating (enteric?) that bonds to the muscle and skin tissues.
2)The AVID Multi scanner will detect and read chips from Avid®, Destron®, Digital Angel®, HomeAgain™, The TRAVELchip™, Avid Secure Encrypted chips, and any other microchip that operates at the frequency of 125 kHz.
I'm not sure about AKCCAR's new TROVAN Chip, as I'm unsure if it operates on the 134 kHz range.
3)For owners that may travel outside of the country, they have the 10 digit "Euro Chip" which is basically a "Global" chip and offers this protection that all of the 9 digit chips currently manufactured do not have.
4)Cancer: BS! They are just as likely to get Cancer from Vaccinations and Rabies shots... Google it! Benefits far outweigh the risk IMHO!
5)By giving the new owners a copy of the PetTrac and using the Prepaid Registration, as well as sending in the Registration Cert. myself; I am able to be insured that ALL pups will be registered to not only me, but the new owners as well. This will leave me with a much greater peace of mind! Lets face it, when a new puppy comes home, it is easy for new owners to forget AKC Registrations, Chip Registrations, etc... just being caught up in "puppyhood"!
I'm quite pleased and reassured to be able to offer this with all of my current and future pups and training clients. |
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Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.
Bruce Shaffer Almost Heaven GSP's
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Almost Heaven GSP Springfield, WV
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| 06/03/2008 2:47 PM |
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One more note, Home Again started the Annual Fee about 1 1/2 to 2 years ago. That is the primary reason I DID NOT go that route, though many of my dogs that were chipped prior to this new charge were chipped Home Again. Here again, it is just too easy to forget to pay or have a Credit Card canceled, or, or, or..... If your HA Chips were from before this period, there is NO CHARGE and they will continue to honor the Contract pre service charge for the life of your puppers. |
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Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.
Bruce Shaffer Almost Heaven GSP's
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hjackson West Mansfield, Oh
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| 06/03/2008 3:00 PM |
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thanks
I'm going to look into it some more
I thought I microchipped Eve last year and just sent in $12 to register the chip - maybe it wasn't last year
where did you get the avid breeder chips?
right now I only need 4 chips until I have my puppies |
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wgspr rescue Milwaukee, WI
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| 06/03/2008 3:09 PM |
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| All our WI GSP Rescue dogs leave rescue chipped! Our main vet uses Avid, but if a shelter can do a chip before the dog leaves shelter, it could be 24 Pet watch or Home Again too. Doesn't much matter to us...what matters is that the chip IS registered with a data base. |
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Lisa C. Rossman WI GSP Rescue, Inc (wgspr.com) "Until there are none, rescue just one!"
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Almost Heaven GSP Springfield, WV
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| 06/03/2008 3:10 PM |
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I ordered them directly from AVID. It's very easy to set up and start an account. My initial price per chip was a bit higher, due to buying the Multi Scanner and the "package deal" I got, but afterwards it is roughly $22.00 per chip WITH the Prepaid Pet Trac enrollments. Not too bad when you consider the cost to get a dog chipped if you include the office visit to a Vet, chip and Registration would likely run right around $40.-60.00.
Here is a link to AVID: http://www.microchipidsystems.com/ |
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Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.
Bruce Shaffer Almost Heaven GSP's
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