Somer Houston, TX
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| 05/28/2008 9:42 AM |
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I took Twiggy and Jake to the beach last Saturday thinking they'd have a lot of fun. Unfortunately there were too many people at the beach to let them off lead so I walked Twiggy and gave Jake to someone else to walk.
Fast forward to early Sunday morning Jake was acting WEIRD. Just not his normal self. He vomited 5 times, was drinking a lot of water, acting very restless/not wanting to lay down, stretching awkwardly, couldn't move very fast (nothing more than a slow trot--wouldn't chase the squirrels but just stare at them from off the deck) and his abdomen was slightly distended and hard to the touch. I took him to the e-vet at about 8am thinking he was bloating or something equally horrible was happening. He looked just awful.
His xrays, vitals and blood panels were normal at the e-vet and the only thing weird was that his right kidney was enlarged and pushing down on colon. He also got sub-q fluids, injectable antibiotics, pain, and anti nausea meds. $650 later and no real definitive diagnosis.
I found out late Sunday night from the person walking him that he was apparently drinking a lot of sea water even though we had fresh water available.
Took him to my regular vet today and she said he was 100% and that the saltwater was likely the culprit.
So we're sticking to fresh water trips only from now on!
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see'n'spots north central Florida
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| 05/28/2008 9:58 AM |
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| There's really little reason for that to be the "Last beach trip for (your) dogs" the crowd not withstanding. Keep it in perspective, it was Memorial Day weekend & that "someone else...apparently" made no effort to prevent Jake from drinking saltwater. Dogs will taste saltwater, that is the time to intervene & tell them NO! I've had very little difficulty stopping my dogs from drinking saltwater. I also prefer to avoid crowds at the beach, go only on weekdays & never on holidays. |
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Somer Houston, TX
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| 05/28/2008 10:05 AM |
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Posted By see'n'spots on 05/28/2008 9:58 AM
There's really little reason for that to be the "Last beach trip for (your) dogs" the crowd not withstanding. Keep it in perspective, it was Memorial Day weekend & that "someone else...apparently" made no effort to prevent Jake from drinking saltwater. Dogs will taste saltwater, that is the time to intervene & tell them NO! I've had very little difficulty stopping my dogs from drinking saltwater. I also prefer to avoid crowds at the beach, go only on weekdays & never on holidays.
Are your posts always so condescending?
Based on my experience of having my dog drink the nasty water found in Galveston, TX and seeing how sick he was afterwards, I will not be taking him back there.
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unowhoandwhy Middleofnowhere, NH
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| 05/28/2008 10:14 AM |
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Posted By Somer on 05/28/2008 10:05 AM
Are your posts always so condescending?.
Oooh! I can answer that one myself! Yes, they are. Either condescending or contentious or both. see 'n' spots knows everything, just ask him & he'll tell you.

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singltrak Las Cruces, NM
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| 05/28/2008 10:23 AM |
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Somer, Hope to get to see you and jdavis when we come down in July for the shows at Reliant. The dates are July 17-20. More details once the judging program appears (after July 5, though) but keep it in mind. A GSP specialty and three all-breeds, and my furtribe would love to meet you and see James again. doG willing and the gas prices don't hit $4.50 a gallon, we'll all be there. As for the water in Galveston, my friend lives in Santa Fe (TX) and goes frequently to Galveston (UTMB as well as for some seafood (Gaido's) and great pizza somewhere there) and her one warning to me is always..."stay away from that nasty water! " OTOH, two of my pups out in California run regularly in the surf and don't seem to harbor ill effects...I'm sure they drink the water too...maybe its just the Gulf. Phyllis and furtribe |
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tchrisman Shapleigh, ME
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| 05/28/2008 10:41 AM |
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You are fortunate to know when to see the vet. Probably saved your dog's life.
Folks need to be careful everywhere they go. There's lot of goodies in fresh water too. Lepto and Giardia, yum! Lepto at least has an effective vaccine and your vet should be putting any GSP on it. The Giardia vaccine is not so great. We had a nice bought of it run through our seven dogs, and I got it from cleaning. Nothing like beaver fever on a road trip.
Dogs also pick up a nasty little bug from eating bird poo. The name escapes me right now. Seagulls and Canada Geese carry a bunch of it. The dogs look like they are sniffing around the grass, when they are actually consuming poo.
Porcupines will set you back $300-$500 per trip to the vet here. A broken quill left under the skin will cost another $600 or so.
Anyway, there are dangers all around for active dogs. Knowing about them and taking corrective action is important. There's just no fool-proof solution. I certanly wouldn't take a known sea water drinker to the beach. |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 05/28/2008 11:13 AM |
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We take our girls to the Texas coast just outside of Victoria, TX on one of the bays (near Port Lavaca and Port O'Connor). My folks have a beach house there and we go down for long weekends and to let the girls swim in the ocean and run on the beach (they love to get after the sea gulls). They actually learned to swim there. They go nuts when they know where they are headed. We had to watch them at first, especially Halo, as they did try to drink the water, but after a few corrections they got it. Halo, on her first day at the beach, did consume more of the water than made me happy, but the only reaction she had was watery squirts for about an hour. So, maybe there was more in the water than just salt. We also do not go on holiday weekends as the crowds are awful. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
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MegC Ellensburg, WA
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| 05/28/2008 11:32 AM |
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If you go back to the beach, one thing you could try would be loading the dog up with a quart of baited water before letting them out. That way they'd be well hydrated and hopefully less prone to gulping down major quantities of sea water. Maybe. Perhaps. Fingers crossed. We're talking GSPs here after all, lol!
Dog breakfast at our house is a cup of dry kibble floating in a quart of lukewarm water. They seem to slurp it down eagerly. |
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jdavis Richwood, Tx
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| 05/28/2008 11:40 AM |
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Somer, I'm sorry for your bad experience at the beach. I hate it when I'm boogie boarding and swallow a little bit of water... I can just imagine purposely imbibing it! Glad he's feeling better though. 
I take mine to surfside and bryan beaches which are by Freeport, Tx. The beach is only 15 minutes away from my house and it appears cleaner than Galveston usually. My pups aren't sure of the water yet so they don't go past their knees. Soon enough I'm sure, especially with the new pup who apparently loves water, or so I noticed by his previous owner telling me he jumped in the swimming pool right before he left to meet me.
Phyllis - I'm going to try my best to get up there for that show. I'm looking forward to seeing you and the pups again too! Good luck on that gas thing. I just got a new car yesterday so it's a little better on the mpg. A little less room for pups, but still plenty. I guess that means 3 is my limit!
-J |
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see'n'spots north central Florida
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| 05/28/2008 2:22 PM |
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Wasn't trying to be "so condescending" or anything, but what were crowds of people doing in "the nasty water found in Galveston, TX"? Sorry, I had not expected pollution to be so bad & replied based on drinking clean saltwater. However, I would never intentionally allow my GSP to even walk in "nasty water" let alone drink it! Again, I apologize if that sounds "condescending". My goal was to allow you back to the beach safely, gfuess that's not in the cards. |
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see'n'spots north central Florida
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| 05/28/2008 2:39 PM |
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I do know one thing, unowhoandwhy prefers Off Topic bashing more than replying On Topic. unowhoandwhy wrote: "Oooh! I can answer that one myself! Yes, they are. Either condescending or contentious or both. see 'n' spots knows everything, just ask him & he'll tell you." Should we then presume you believe a GSP can't be trained to NOT drink saltwater (or "nasty water") & that beach crowds are NOT to be expected on Memorial Day weekend? The beaches I use here in FL do not have "nasty water". Please make some shallow attempt to post On Topic & stop repeating your mantra that "see 'n' spots knows everything". I didn't even suspect Somer would've taken the dogs to "nasty water" so add that to all the other things I did not know. |
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tucker WAY NORTHERN MINNESOTA!
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| 05/28/2008 3:26 PM |
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The way I see it is there are always going to be people in this world who have "done every thing, seen every thing & talk with BIG words,[ makes them feel bigger ] & are VERY opinionated. I guess we just have to put up with it. I am with unohoandwhy, Somer, & 90% of everyone else on this board that thinks it use to be a lot more fun to post on here when every thing we wrote was answered by 3 paragraphs of why we are wrong. I just want to go back to " hahaha my dog is funny, I get an answer like " he sure is" |
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Alice, Ruger, Tucker RIP 1995-2009, & Gunner 'To love a dog that has been discarded by another proves to that dog that love really does exist.' -Christi Cooper
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jdavis Richwood, Tx
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| 05/28/2008 3:39 PM |
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"he sure is"
enjoy your day.

-J
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BEANS Washington state
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| 05/28/2008 4:12 PM |
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OMG
MY tongue is raw from biting it.....post after post after post
I'm with Tucker, Jdavis & UNO.......as well as all the others....
Renee'
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Pointer Fan Westminster, Colorado
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| 05/28/2008 8:06 PM |
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I also felt bad that GSP Justin felt driven off the board. I thought he was a pretty bright young man but seemed to be hounded sometimes. I like this board as an antidote to the evening news where the world seems to be getting crueler. The pictures of puppies and older dogs and the funny stories make my day. Hugs to all. |
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caly1522 GA
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| 05/28/2008 8:48 PM |
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| I'm glad to see I'm not the only one with these feelings. I'm with Beans, jdavis, Tucker, unow, and somer 110%. I think there is a better way to comment to posts on here. I don't think everything needs a 3 paragraph "how you should have handled that" explanation. I'm glad to hear your Jake is ok. |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 05/28/2008 10:08 PM |
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First, if I upset anyone with this post I apologize in advance as it is not intended to single anyone out. I do have to speak up though and say maybe we should all be a little more forgiving and a little less ready to judge about what another "means" in their posts. I haven't been a member long and I have read lot's of posts on this forum, and some can be easily mistaken. In our love and enthusiasm for this breed we are all a little guilty of wanting to share what we know (I am certainly guilty here). Those who have owned GSPs longer have more experience and we should take that for what it is (I have only had shorthairs for 5 years and welcome all the various opinions). We don't have to and shouldn't agree with everything, but we don't have to be petty in our posts. Sometimes the written word is hard to decipher when we don't have the benefit of looking someone in the face and seeing what they mean. So, I think we ought to all try to be a bit more patient and give people the benefit of the doubt, and accept what the others post for what it is, there experience and opinion. If you don't agree with it fine, say so but do it nicely. I think in the end everyone would benefit.
This post is not aimed at any one individual, you don't have to agree with it, it is simply my opinion. Again, I apologize in advance if anyone is offended. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
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see'n'spots north central Florida
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| 05/28/2008 11:12 PM |
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Sorry, to have gone against that "110%" of the "90%" but where this derailed is when the Off Topic bashing started with "Either condescending or contentious". All I did was suggest ways to make trips to the beach happy, healthy & possible again. Forgive me for not being a mind reader & knowing about the "nasty water" the dog was allowed to drink beforehand. I'm supposed to regret using "BIG words"? Now I understand that Somer can never again risk taking dogs to "the nasty water found in Galveston, TX" & there's nothing to be done about it? Case closed. However I still don't see an iota of anything resembling "Either condescending or contentious" in my short single paragraph that held out the hope it didn't have to be the "Last beach trip". If anyone thinks my response to Somer suffered from "BIG words" I can suggest where to find a dictionary. "The way I see it is there are always going to be people in this world who" are quick to join lynch mobs. Thank you one & all for your attempts to have me "driven off the board". Good luck reducing a useful forum into pointless pablum filled exclusively with discourse like "hahaha my dog is funny, I get an answer like "he sure is". |
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see'n'spots north central Florida
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| 05/28/2008 11:49 PM |
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In this case you'd have been wise to concentrate on the SMALL words. tucker wrote: "I am with unohoandwhy, Somer, & 90% of everyone else on this board that thinks it use to be a lot more fun to post on here when every thing we wrote was answered by 3 paragraphs of why we are wrong." I'd expect most posts to be about problems w/GSPs on a forum like this. If you're looking for "a lot more fun" what do you propose? Bury our heads in the sand, pretend problems don't exist & attack anyone who sees alternatives & solutions? My opinion is that serious problems that send our spotted friends to the vet & disrupt our joys in life may merit "BIG words" & "3 paragraphs". You seem to suggest you'd be having "a lot more fun" if I'd limited my response to: 'he sure sounds sick'. OK. You got me. I confess, I am "VERY opinionated" but stand by my posting that "I've had very little difficulty stopping my dogs from drinking saltwater" & that goes for "nasty water" as well. I also stand by my opinion that a "BIG" beach crowd is to be expected on Memorial Day weekend. I fully accept that others may have different experience, but can only speak from my own 20 years of GSP & 30 years of other breed experience. |
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Mydogiscrazy Chapel Hill NC
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| 05/29/2008 6:16 AM |
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I am glad you got him to the vet! Don't you wish you could just wrap our pups up in bubble wrap and they would never get hurt or do dumb things to get themselves in trouble? I always second guess my puppy parenting skills, especially when I let Lacey run in the forest at free will, and swim in the lakes and creeks and she drinks puddles of water I wouldn't even splash in. But I am sooo happy she is coming to visit for the weekend. |
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