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05/02/2008 7:00 AM  
We had a brush with the PETA people here locally... a Prairie dog community was to be bulldozed because the city felt like we needed another baseball field.. so all the PD's were going to be put down, it was deemed to be the most humane thing especially since Kansas was having issues of Prairie Dog communities becoming Plague carriers... The PETA team came in and gathered all the animals and moved them to an abandoned community in Colorado, where they were promptly all devoured and shredded to pieces by badgers. apparently that was more humane than putting them gently to sleep? These people forget how violent the natural world really is. They want to inflict human standards on all species.
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05/02/2008 8:44 AM  

I was joking all weekend with folks "isn't it just terrible how we force the dogs to do this?" as dogs were leaping, screaming, dragging us along to the start/finish line, chewing lines because they couldn't go soon enough, etc etc etc. Even Rogan after coming around the race course started jaw-jacking again when I took Dulcie out for her 'victory lap' afterwards.

To anyone who thinks it's cruel: they've invited to hang onto a tie-off line and see how long they can hold onto it when I yelp 'avacado' or 'Gertrude' to my hooked-up team waiting to go.... it doesn't matter WHAT you tell the dogs at that point, they're GOING, and rotsa ruck to the skin on your palms and your shoulder sockets- lol!!!


Megan
+ Dulcie (Lehmschlog's The Right Spot) + Rogan (Lehmschlog's BR Rogan) + Anya (Lehmschlog's Anya O Conchobar)
Intro to harness sport/mushing- start here!
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05/02/2008 9:47 AM  
I have been advised by my vet and others to get him into pulling to help run him out of energy. Even my doctor thought it was a great idea and he is an animal activist. I know that in rural animals your animal activists tend to be a little more realistic to the natural inclinations than those who were raised in the bigger cities.
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05/02/2008 12:55 PM  

If nothing else you can always hook the dog up to a tire to drag on 6' or so of rope as you take him/her for a walk. Cleans up a tire from out of the ditch and burns energy out of that dog VERY fast- in fact, you might want to start with just 5 minutes on the tire and watch feet carefully as they'll wear quickly.


Megan
+ Dulcie (Lehmschlog's The Right Spot) + Rogan (Lehmschlog's BR Rogan) + Anya (Lehmschlog's Anya O Conchobar)
Intro to harness sport/mushing- start here!
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05/02/2008 9:10 PM  
Found the motherload of Dog Scooter links, but still no real 'high flotation' beach scooter. Told there's 1 w/wheel barrow type wheels & saw a heavy metal trike version using recycled airplane tires!

Learned there are 3.5" mt. bike tires now & am impressed by the kewl looking scooters w/26" front & 20" or smaller rear. The inspiration came w/a site that featured a detail article on converting BMX or mt. bikes to scooters. Shopped around locally to try to find suitable junker/candidate to sacrifice & have a good chance of landing a nice suspension fork w/V brakes for next to nothing. Hadn't looked much at bikes since I got a Mt. Fuji 20 years ago. Was amazed at the 2 lb frames. Even put an online Want Ad. The metal fabrication looks easy & I'm perrfectly equipped. Kal probably ran 20 miles again tonight. I suspect he'll be a natural.

Need to decide on harness. The ordinary X seems right? Saw warning GSP might back out easily? Suspect Kal would run into the harness & 'dress' himself. Recall horses so happy to run they'd gobble a bit & thrust their face into a halter. Presume wise 1st step is to walk him in harness & urge him to pull? How's that work after investing so much effort to teach him not to pull?
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05/02/2008 10:27 PM  

If you've got the equipment and know-how to create a scooter yourself, I'd say go for it! And you may still want to join the yahoo group Dogslovetorun and put a post on there re build-it-yourself... hopefully you'll get a response from our very own Les, who has done a few I believe (and I've run with his team of rescue sibes- he's a super nice guy). You may also get a shout from a couple others. I think there was a link to some australian site with plans for a couple cut-down bike frames way back when.

I've tried serveral kinds of harnesses and X backs have always worked the best for me... they are the easiest to fit correctly and if you just can't bring yourself to order one, making them with some dental floss for thread isn't hopeless. Although you'll honestly not be that much ahead of just ordering one for the price. If backing out is a concern, just make a tie out of a rag or use a neckline or something to put a belly-band on the X back and you'll be set. If you need a picture of this contrabulation let me know.

Having the dog start out pulling a drag is a good start, then keep encouraging him to get out in front of you while pulling at the same time. I have used a flexi leash while doing this kind of training because I can end up a ways behind running (gasping!) behind the dog and the tire. :) If you're headed towards something the dog REALLY likes to get to- a pond or home or the car, whatever- it will make your efforts that much easier.

I like using a car tire as a drag but you can use a chunk of wood etc. Just beware of the dog's reaction to noise and that the dogs will wear out rope grinding on the ground VERY quickly, which is why I prefer to have a rope loop through some holes in the tread of the tire. The other nice thing about a small car tire is that it doesn't bounce too badly- one less thing to worry the dog with when starting out.

And the other good thing about hitting that scooter list is that there may be other folks with trained dogs reasonably close by. The fastest way to train a harness sport dog, bar none, is to hook it up next to a seasoned dog. We humans are very clever but we still speak doglish as a second language. Dogs can tell each other about this stuff VERY quickly.


Megan
+ Dulcie (Lehmschlog's The Right Spot) + Rogan (Lehmschlog's BR Rogan) + Anya (Lehmschlog's Anya O Conchobar)
Intro to harness sport/mushing- start here!
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05/02/2008 11:20 PM  
Had a frustrating time w/Yahoo trying to sign up at DogsLoveToRun. Their security may have overpowered my horse'n'buggy dial up BS. The part where you have to type in the code failed 3 tries.

The X harness was the only bargain I'd seen, but I didn't get into the measurement & fitting issues yet. Have some experience heat welding & riveting nylon strap & considered making up a harness after seeing some designs. Still getting my head around it, photos have been a bit unclear.

Couldn't agree more about finding somebody w/experience close by. So far nobody I've talked to has ever heard of it. I can trace back to the day last month I was 1st introduced to scooters.

So how hard is it to ride? Piece of cake or are you burning up the brakes & hiding white knuckles under the gloves?
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05/03/2008 7:22 AM  
Good idea about the tire. Our area is pretty clean so I am going to have to figure out where I can find one to hook him up too. I am thinking that if I hook him up to that and let him run around the back pasture, it will solve my problem of him jumping over the fence.
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05/06/2008 10:35 AM  
Meg,

Where are you getting your pulling harnesses? I have tried to make them for my beast, but they just haven't come out right. I picked up a tire for him, but I think I got one that was too big.
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