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02/07/2013 1:50 AM  

Hi All,

I love the collective wisdom on this forum, and was wondering if anyone can comment on our dog's behavior.  Our boy is currently 9 months old, we've had him since 4 months.  Me and my husband are first time GSP-owners, and first time owning a sporting/working dog - just to clarify why I attempt to (over)analyze and worry about every little behavior :)

Our boy does not want to leave the house.  I keep reading about dogs who beg to go out, and our guy never does it.  He only pushes to go out when he really-really needs to do his potty.  So a typical routine is that one of us, me or my husband, opens the door and grabs the dog's leash, while our boy sits and observes from a distance, and doesn't respond to verbal encouragement.  Even if he was rushing around exuberantly in the house a second ago and clearly has the energy for an outing.  Sometimes he finally grudgingly does approach the door, sometimes we coax him by pretending we are leaving without him, in which case he follows as he doesn't want to be left behind.  Sometimes we use treats to bribe him to come. Once outside the house front door, he is completely fine, confident, and does not stall anymore. (However, the same routine repeats if we go to the garage instead of the street, in which case he does not want to get into the car and leave the garage)  Like I said, once already on the outing - a walk in the neighborhood, hike or snowshoe in the forest, or dog park visit, he seems happy, tireless and confident.  It's just every time we leave the house I feel he drags his feet and acts as if it's a punishment, not a reward!  Am I just overthinking/worrying this?  One, perhaps really naive thought I have is that he is expecting treats.  When he was younger, it was impossible to wake him up to go to potty, especially early in the morning, so we pretty much always used a "trail of crumbs" to lead him to the door and out - which he happily then followed.  We still sometimes do it.  Could it be that what our boy is doing is now not so much please-don't-make-me-go-out behavior, but rather if-I-stall-I-often-get-treats-so-let's-wait-this-out?

Thank you in advance!

 

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02/07/2013 5:32 AM  
Actually it sounds kinda normal...

Mine loves it outside but he does prefer us to be out there too... we have a game we do to entertain ourselves and tire him out... we put our shoes on this means we are going out... he gets excited we open the door he zips out runs the lap around the yard realizes we didn't go out and comes back to the door... we open it and act like we are taking a step out and he zips out and runs his lap around the yard.... we do this anywhere between 5-10 times it is hilarious!

Now if something interesting is going on like squirrels in the trees he will sit outside under the tree for hours!

I have to admit we never used treats to potty training we just used verbal rewards and pets... if Blitz doesn't want to go out he will cower down on the ground and look away so we then just leave him stay in... for example sometimes he will sit by the patio door and we think he wants out so when we ask and start to open the door if he doesn't want to go out then he cowers and we know he was just gazing and not asking to go out...

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02/07/2013 6:06 AM  

If he is fine once out and not acting fearful of leaving, I wouldn't worry about it. He may be quite amused by your antics (they are incredibly intelligent) and waiting to see what "game" is going to come about this time. If it were me, I wouln't make a big deal what so ever about going out and just do so matter of factly (if that means leashing him indoors and walking him outdoors and directly into the car). Dogs like routine and knowing what the expect out of us (much as we like knowing what to expect out of our dogs).

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02/07/2013 6:44 AM  
Thought of this too you mention snowshoe so it must be cold and snowy where you live... mine doesn't like to just go out in the snow much... this is the time of year where he likes to sit at the patio and just watch... the sun comes in and is nice and warm and when we open the door the cold air comes in and he is like No Way!

I think you can just easy up on making him go out to play or exercise... a lot of people get caught up on how this breed is high energy which is true but at the same time you don't have to be persistent about getting them out... I really don't do anything with mine other than let them out to play in the yard and right now this time of year is for about 3 minutes to potty and poop... we also went on a 3 week vacation where the dogs had to be on leash no off leash... while we went out site seeing all day they stayed in the RV (bear country no dogs allowed on trails) and when we would get back they got 1-3 walks around the campground... they were fine never got bored and ripped anything up in the RV... when we would get home they would just be sleeping on the couch or up on the dashboard (naughty dogs lol)...

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02/08/2013 10:47 PM  
Thanks, guys! I'm glad to hear I've been overthinking this. It's chilly, damp and wet outside most days, so this might contribute indeed to him not being over the top about the outings like Splat said. And smatulewicz, I tried what you suggested - leashing him up indoors and walking him out of the house, instead of waiting at the door and making a big production of it. To our amazement, he walked calmly out when leashed outside, no stalling or hesitations. !!! Thank you :).
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02/09/2013 6:25 AM  
glad to hear!

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02/09/2013 11:40 AM  
I have 2 of my 4 that absolutely do not want to go out when it is raining. I open the back door to let them out and 2 go barreling out and the other two look at me like I am nuts. These same two though will go right out the front door and right in the rain to potty. Go figure. So you could also try using a different door. It makes sense in a weird way because dogs are so spatially oriented.

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02/09/2013 8:49 PM  

I wouldn't want to leave that place in front of the fire either! Sounds like you have found a solution by leashing before going out.  Hanna would not go out in the rain either when she was a Pup . Now that shes over a year old it doesn't deter her.

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02/17/2013 9:57 PM  
I can speak to this one, as our male has minor hesitancies as well. We got him at 8 months, and he was raised outside for the most part, so he doesn't fear the outdoors. However, if we put him in a car and take him somewhere new, he usually has to be coaxed to come with us. He was a basketcase the first time we took him for a walk on the trails surrounding the dog park. He did okay until we started walking toward the thickly wooded area with lots of trees and brush. He stopped and panicked with every little sound, and any bikes he saw, he would freak out. It took 2 or 3 trips for him to realize he wasn't going to die on the hiking trail before he relaxed. When we pull up to the vet, he just sits in the back of the car and sniffs. We have to coax him out. When we pull up in a parking garage and walk to the town center activities, he sits in the back of the car and has to be coaxed out. Once out, he whines a bit, looks around, and is cautious for the first 5 minutes of the walk. He relaxes once he sees people and we are on a good walking pace..and we give him the "heel" command. That takes a lot of concentration for him!! Lol!
Also, I recently took the Canine Good Citizenship class for Maybrie and Kaido. They both passed with flying colors, and did great with people and other dogs. There were 5 other GSP's in this class, and every one of them were different. The two males were the biggest babies! One was ridiculously attached to mom, and trusted no one else during the first class. If mom got out of his sight, he cried and cried. I am not sure how old he was, but he wasn't a puppy. Kaido was a big chicken of anything new introduced, and had to warm up to it. He showed no aggression or signs of fear aggression....he's just a big chicken! I was told that this breed just has a trait of being curious, but also cautious sometimes. Nothing to worry about.
Kaido is getting much better as he gets older. I think it is important to continue to keep him engaged and make the new experiences fun. This will build his curiosity, and curb any fears he may have. Maybrie is curious, but shows no fears. She is female, what can I say! Lol! Has anyone else had this situation where their females have been less cautious or fearful than the males? We used to have to have Maybrie with us anytime we took Kaido anywhere. He wouldn't go anywhere without her. Now of course, he's fine. One time I had Les Miserable playing and the lead male singer Val Jean was singing I had a dream. Kaido was terrified and would not enter the living room until I hooked Maybrie to him and coaxed her in with goldfish crackers! He was okay after that, but what a weird freak thing...
It was intense loud and frustrated singing, and I guess Kaido read into that emotion and decided the living room was not the place to be! Lol!

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