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SKidd
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| 12/16/2012 7:22 PM |
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Hello all, first time GSP owner always owned labs or american bulldogs, i have a 13 week old male named Arrow. We got him at 9 weeks. Potty training didnt go so well at first, he gave no indication that he had to go he would just squat and pee or stand, would not go on pads, breeder trained him on pads, but now he has learned to go to the door and sit, no accidents in the house for about 2 weeks. He has always walked good on leash no biting it flipping around acting dumb.
I have a few concerns/questions. okay maybe more than a few
1. He is crate trained but at night he will only sleep for about 2 hours and then needs to go out again has done this since we brought him home, sleep another 2 and back up again goes potty everytime. Usually around the 4th time i have to get up with him i am staggering out the door with eyes shut, my fiance leaves for work and me and pup lay on couch and go back to sleep he will sleep about 4 or 5 hours on couch but not that long in crate, he's driving me nuts I am sleep deprived.
2. When I take him outside (always on the leash because he will be gone in a blink of an eye) he goes out and trys to pull up big patches of grass always wanting to eat dirt, rocks, roots etc... what can I do?Also if he wants to go somewhere he is trying to pull me along. His walk back from potty spot to garage he is trying to eat everything.
3. He know whats the word NO means, and he tests me everyday. Christmas tree is up and presents under it he will lay by tree with a toy and try to grab a present, when i tell him no he gets vocal with me and barks and does a growl. He also does that when he has a toy on the couch and he drops it on the floor he wants me to get it so he will bark and carry on for me to get it. What can I do to stop the behavior?
4. I also read somewhere about ZOOMIES... LOL he's got them, he will run through the house like lightning romp and play and bark. He has a stuffless fox that he will grab by the tail and run in a circle about 20 times.
5. Trying to teach him the basics, he does great with sit, but thats all ive accomplished.
Thanks all for allowing me to join and vent a lil bit..
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Marie Wisconsin
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| 12/16/2012 8:27 PM |
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Welcome to the German Shorthair Pointer world. What you described is normal for this breed. They get better as they get older and learn to live and adjust to your routine. My GSP, Rocky will be turning 11 this month. Rocky still gets the zoomie, zoomie and can be destructive if not exercised, entertained on a daily routine basis. We also had a Lab/ Chese mix amd she was calm as can be. When Rocky entered our house at 12 months old form WI Rescue it was like a tornado came in our house. It took us time with training, exercise and GSP Direction to become adjusted. It takes time. A puppy is like a new born and you almost need puppy Paternity or maturinty leave. Good Luck with your new addition.GSPs keep their puppy spirit their entire lives |
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Marie and Rocky, a tall, high energy GSP http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab18/Annette_Merryfield/100_0285.jpg?t=1287205231 |
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smatulewicz Michigan
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| 12/16/2012 8:30 PM |
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Hi there, and welcome! Your puppy is 13 weeks. He is a baby. We got Bella around 11 or 12 weeks. I used to set an alarm every hour to let her out. Built up to every two hours, and then ultimately to once a night as I found she was still sleeping soundly. They have very little bladder control at this age. My philosophy was I would rather beat her to the punch than clean up an accident...so when she was awake, at that age she was headed out about every 20 min. If your pup is indicating that he needs to go out at this age that is awesome. Bella learned very fast to go outside, but it took her a bit longer to find the best way to tell us. When she figure it out, though, it was like a light bulb moment and no issues since. Your pup may know what "no" kind of means, but what is the consequence to not obeying it? You may want to start training the "leave it" command. I find it to be much more effective than "no". I'm also an advocate for "trading up". Meaning, if your pup is messing with something he shouldn't, tell him leave it and then provide him with something he can have (give it a phrase too...we say "you may have"). Your puppy sassing you to get his toys... your getting trained by your puppy Ignore this behavior. As for the pulling and eating things. Your pup is exploring his world. The best way for them to do this at this age is orally. Just keep an eye for anything he shouldn't be mouthing. The leave it command will come in head for this as well. Remember to praise and reward your pup when it appropriately leaves something. Sometimes it's easy to remind our puppies daily of what isn't acceptable, but forget to let them know when they have done something appropriately. In our house, we embrace zoomies. BUT, if you don't want them to occur in the house, you can encourage your puppy to settle by calling him over and putting him in a down position (on the side always worked great for us). Or have your pup go in kennel. Zoomies at your puppy's age are often a result of being over tired and you'll find he will probably crash right after. As they age, all sorts of zoomies come about...after poop zoomies, fresh snow zoomies lol GOOD LUCK! |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 12/17/2012 1:24 AM |
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Welcome to the forum. I would suggest you might want to enroll in an obedience class. It would be good for both of you. As for him trying to train you, I would turn the tables. If he drops his toy and barks for you to get it, I would pick it up and put it away. In other words he losses his toy when he does that. One of my shorthairs loved putting toys under the sofa, then would bark for me to get it. I started getting it and putting it away and it was no time and she quit putting toys under the sofa. As for the potty issue, he is still a baby so plan accordingly and take him out every couple of hours. It won't take very long and he will be sleeping through the night. You might also want to cut back on his water before you go to bed. That should help the getting up at night. I try to stay away fom no and instead use leave it and drop. I also like the trading up. You might also want to put out a toy box. It helps when they know that everything in the toy box is fair game. In my house the zombies are named father my second oldest. They are called the crazy Halos. My second oldests name is Halo. Typically the zombies occur when they get tired, so it is a perfect time to put hem in the crate. It usually takes no time t all and they re asleep. I don't know how often or how much you are feeding, but you should be feeding at least 3 times a day. Also if you aren't already you might look into a higher protein and fat food. It might help with the tendency to grab everything. BTW we love pictures so would love to see some Picts of your puppy. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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vnrose53
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| 12/17/2012 5:18 PM |
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"Typically the zombies occur when they get tired. . ."
I don't think the OP is describing the situation in which his puppy marches around slowly with staring eyes and outstretched arms. . . . |
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SKidd
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| 12/17/2012 6:09 PM |
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Thanks for the information. We have been working on the leave it command, because when we brought him home he was wanting to take off with my furry slippers, took him about 4 or 5 days and 1 swat on the butt and he has never touched them again.
He hasnt had his 3rd set of puppy shots yet, he goes Saturday for them after he gets them we will enroll in obidience training
He is on Pro Plan Puppy Chicken and Rice Shredded Blend he gets fed 2 cups a day. I fill his bowl at 6am and he doesnt start eating till 1130-12.
I will post pics soon
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pixie bee
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| 12/17/2012 7:06 PM |
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3. He know whats the word NO means, and he tests me everyday. Christmas tree is up and presents under it he will lay by tree with a toy and try to grab a present, when i tell him no he gets vocal with me and barks and does a growl. He also does that when he has a toy on the couch and he drops it on the floor he wants me to get it so he will bark and carry on for me to get it. What can I do to stop the behavior? I think I like this dog! |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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sevans9793 Hickory/Charlotte NC
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| 12/17/2012 7:38 PM |
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Ha mine was and is the same way. They really start to calm down after about 3 years, but that is not to say they aren't active. When my GSP (Trouser) was getting "zoomies" he could clear a couch (not length wise but width wise XD), and he is 7 now and continues to stay hyper. Sometimes when he is outside he will grab a stick and tear like heck through the yard for no reason at all. Its hilarious. One problem is that sometimes he (want to say they as a reference to the breed but have only owned one so far) will tend to disobey me more often when he is getting these wild tears. I've tried to fix it. One example is when he is off his leash and begins to run away from me and I try to call him back he will stop, and then stare at me. He will not come he will just sit there. When I try to go and grab him after calling a few times he will then run off. If for some reason I am able to corner him and I try to grab him he may snap at me which is weird because he is usually quite docile. This happens often and is a huge pain. Does anybody have any suggestions or experiences t o help? |
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smatulewicz Michigan
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| 12/17/2012 8:13 PM |
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@sevens - I would go back to basics with recall training (at home indoors until 100%, at home in yard until 100%, and then adding distractions). BUT, if Bella were behaving this way (knowing that she knows recall and what is expected) I trust that she needs to be close to where I am enough that I would feel confident doing the complete opposite of what you are doing. Going after him turns it into a game for him, a game that he is winning. I won't lie, sometimes with recall Bella will start to come and then stop to sniff something else on her way and I add a "NOW" and she knows that is her final word. If she were to do what your dog is doing, I would call once, add the now, if she didn't come...I would turn around and walk the other way no longer acknowledging my dog. You are now taking back control and your dog (again, if you are confident he would move in the same direction as well) should follow you. Since you have no way to reinforce the command without going to get him off lead, this is why I suggest this. Best case scenario is, though, that you eliminate this behavior with more control and a check cord.
A little off the topic, but since Bella knows the trails we take pretty well, she will range a little further than I like and checks in from a far (because I like her close enough that I can see a biker or jogger coming and have time to call her back to me so she doesn't bother them). If she gets too rangy on me, I will start to play hide and seek with her. I will hide behind a big tree and once she notices I'm no longer right behind she will come running back. I throw a huge party when she finds me, and she loves it so she starts to stay closer and check in more often. She also can't stand the idea of losing me. But, I know other GSPs in our area that couldn't care less if they were out in the field on their own, so it just depends on your dog's personality |
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SKidd
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| 12/19/2012 4:11 AM |
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http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a565/ShannonReneeKidd/Arrow/316540_10152313038715332_1892974989_n_zps92454cf0.jpg |
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SKidd
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| 12/19/2012 4:19 AM |
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This is Arrow
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Max2 Oneonta NY
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| 12/19/2012 4:38 AM |
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15yrs from now you will look back at these pictures & say remember when he was that little ! Nice looking pup .Lot's of luck to you guy's. Intelligence is an understatement for this breed ! |
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gharner Middletown, PA
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| 12/19/2012 8:20 AM |
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| I have nothing helpful to add, but your pup is adorable and reminds me of my Dax. I remember 3 years ago I was in your shoes and was a nervous wreck constantly following the puppy around. I have no idea how many times I had to say "No"...I sounded like a broken record hahaha. Good luck and enjoy the puppy stage, it goes really fast! |
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SKidd
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| 12/19/2012 6:19 PM |
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Thanks gharner.. Yeah I feel like a broken record sometimes , no no no off off off |
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