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rospigan
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>>>Ohio Bill Strips Away Dog Ownership Rights
A bill
before the Ohio legislature takes aim at the concept of dogs
as private
property, stripping away the right of private ownership of
dogs. The
legislation redefines owners of kennels as having "custody
of or control"
over dogs, but does not grant them the right of actual
ownership. The bill
is designed to regulate kennels having nine or
more breeding dogs. It
requires additional regulation of kennels that
sell more than 25 dogs and
puppies a year, which are
called "intermediary" kennels.
House Bill
225 gives dogs the same legal status and rights as human
children or wards
of the state, and incorporates many of the basic
principles advocated by
extreme animal rights groups such as the
Humane Society of the United States
and People for the Ethical
Treatment of Animals. HSUS and PETA believe that
all animals should
be granted rights equal to those guaranteed to humans,
and the Ohio
legislation reflects this position.
The American
Sporting Dog Alliance (ASDA) has identified the Ohio
legislation as one of
its highest priorities for 2008, and is
assembling a strong leadership team
and legal representation to fight
back against this blatant attempt to take
away our right of dog
ownership and infringe on the vital concept of private
property.
"It's not going to be an easy fight," ASDA Director John Yates
said. "The Ohio legislation (H.B. 225) already has the endorsement of
38
members of the 99-member Ohio General Assembly. That is close to
40-percent
support, and the bill still is in committee." The 38 Ohio
legislators who
endorse the bill will be listed at the bottom of this
article.
"I
`smell a rat' with this legislation," Yates said. "First of all,
it was
not introduced into the House Agriculture Committee, even
though it would be
administered and controlled by the Ohio Department
of Agriculture. Instead,
the bill was introduced in the State
Government and Elections Committee.
This is a tactic use to minimize
the influence of pro-farm legislators, who
would recognize the
fundamental danger to farmers when animals are granted
equal rights
with humans, and when the concept of private ownership of
animals is
destroyed."
Yates said it also seems fishy that numerous
sensationalistic and
inflammatory news articles, television news stories and
National
Public Radio broadcasts have appeared in Ohio over the past month.
National Public Radio is funded with tax dollars, and ASDA plans to
demand equal airtime to counter these biased news stories.
Yates
urges all Ohioans who have sporting dogs, own dogs of other
breeds, who farm
or who simply care about basic human rights to take
an active role in this
fight by joining ASDA and volunteering their
time and talent to strike down
this legislation and put real heat on
the 38 legislators who support it.
ASDA also has assembled a list of
Ohio organizations that support this
legislation, and businesses that
support these groups, and will urge
sporting dog owners to boycott
them.
ASDA's website can be accessed
at
http://www.americansportingdogalliance.org. Frequent updates about
the Ohio situation
will appear on the organization's journal blog,
which can be accessed
through this site.
A full political and legal analysis of this
legislation will be
published on the ASDA website this week, but here are
some of the
most significant aspects of H.B. 225:
All litters of
puppies born by regulated kennels must be
registered with the state
agency.
Each kennel operator will be required to post surety bonds
and carry insurance to pay for the cost of any enforcement action
against him or her.
The state will be given the power to confiscate
dogs, both
for alleged mistreatment and for technical violations of the
kennel
law.
Although violation of any part of this law would be
considered a First Class Misdemeanor, subject to the criminal code
and
possible prison sentences and stiff fines, accused kennel owners
are granted
only the right to an administrative appeal through the
Department of
Agriculture.
It allows the Department of Agriculture to pass judgment
on
an applicant's competence to operate a kennel, without defining what
standards will be used to make this determination, and gives the
power
to deny licensure to anyone deemed lacking "the expertise or
capacity" to
meet the requirements of the law. Photos of an
applicant's kennel and
various affidavits must be filed with each
application.
The bill
requires initial and annual criminal and personal
background checks of
kennel operators, and of all of their employees
and family members who have
contact with dogs, and also requires
fingerprinting of each person involved.
Kennel owners thus will have
to meet the same background requirements as
people who work with
children or adults in schools, institutions, group
homes and social
service agencies. A kennel license would be denied if the
operator, a
kennel employee or a family member have been convicted of or
pleaded
guilty to animal abuse or domestic violence allegations at any time
in their lives.
Grants complete power to the Department of
Agriculture to
create and enforce specific regulations about the care of
dogs,
kennel management, paperwork and facility design. The bill does not
require either legislative oversight or public participation, and the
specifics of the regulations are not contained in the text of the
legislation. Specific information is being withheld from the
legislature
and citizens.
Annual kennel license fees ranging from $150 to $750 are
imposed by the bill. Intermediaries (anyone who sells more than 25
dogs
or puppies a year) are required to pay an additional $500
license fee. In
addition, any citizen can request an inspection of
any intermediary facility
at any time and for any reason, and the
request will be mandatory.
The bill also sets up contracts with animal shelters and
rescue groups to
house and care for any animals that are confiscated
by the state.
Creates a 10-member oversight commission consisting of two
members of the
general assembly and eight members "representing
various entities with an
interest in dog kennels." There is no
requirement for any of these
representatives to be stakeholders in
the issue, and the door is open for
representation by animal rights
groups. These eight seats will be held by
political appointees who
are not accountable to the Legislature or the
voters.
Here is a list of the 38 co-sponsors of the bill: Ohio Reps.
Hughes
(the prime sponsor), R. Hagan, D. Stewart, Flowers, Skindell, Combs,
B. Williams, Seitz, Okey, Fende, Setzer, Bacon, Beatty, Brady,
Otterman,
Peterson, Brown, Yuko, J. Stewart, Luckie, Wolpert, J.
McGregor, Webster,
Evans, Ujvagi, Blessing, J. Hagan, Distel, Heard,
Dyer, Celeste, Foley,
Chandler, Hottinger, Strahorn, Schneider,
Bolon, and Miller.
Yates urges
Ohioans and others to contact these legislators both in
person and with
strongly worded letters of protest aimed both at
defeating this legislation,
and having the co-sponsors formally
withdraw their support from it.
ASDA
also is working to save Ohio field trial grounds at the Kildeer
Plains and
Indian Creek Wildlife Management Areas, which are being
closed to trialing
this coming April by state and federal wildlife
agencies.>>
To me it seems
to be a rather radical proposal!
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel "Ask not what your dog can do for you. Ask
what you can do for your dog." www.rospigan.net |
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farmd69
JH
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| 12/18/2007 8:43 AM |
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Interesting but Ohio house Bill 225 is about relaxing the concealed weapons carry permit statute.
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=127_HB_225
Could it be a ploy by some anti gun group who does not want the CWCP redefined so more people can carry????
Writing your legislature saying Kill Bill 225 thinking it is about your dog when it is about carry permits is a brilliantly smart idea.
You got to love people who com eup with these ideas....
Check it out and let me know if its a scam or somebody has the wrong Bill number.
________________________________
> From: rospigan@brevet.nu
> To: working-gundog@web.whc.net
> Subject: [working-gundog] From another list
> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:28:10 +0100
>
>>>>Ohio Bill Strips Away Dog Ownership Rights
>
> A bill before the Ohio legislature takes aim at the concept of dogs
> as private property, stripping away the right of private ownership of
> dogs. The legislation redefines owners of kennels as having "custody
> of or control" over dogs, but does not grant them the right of actual
> ownership. The bill is designed to regulate kennels having nine or
> more breeding dogs. It requires additional regulation of kennels that
> sell more than 25 dogs and puppies a year, which are
> called "intermediary" kennels.
>
> House Bill 225 gives dogs the same legal status and rights as human
> children or wards of the state, and incorporates many of the basic
> principles advocated by extreme animal rights groups such as the
> Humane Society of the United States and People for the Ethical
> Treatment of Animals. HSUS and PETA believe that all animals should
> be granted rights equal to those guaranteed to humans, and the Ohio
> legislation reflects this position.
>
> The American Sporting Dog Alliance (ASDA) has identified the Ohio
> legislation as one of its highest priorities for 2008, and is
> assembling a strong leadership team and legal representation to fight
> back against this blatant attempt to take away our right of dog
> ownership and infringe on the vital concept of private property.
>
> "It's not going to be an easy fight," ASDA Director John Yates
> said. "The Ohio legislation (H.B. 225) already has the endorsement of
> 38 members of the 99-member Ohio General Assembly. That is close to
> 40-percent support, and the bill still is in committee." The 38 Ohio
> legislators who endorse the bill will be listed at the bottom of this
> article.
>
> "I `smell a rat' with this legislation," Yates said. "First of all,
> it was not introduced into the House Agriculture Committee, even
> though it would be administered and controlled by the Ohio Department
> of Agriculture. Instead, the bill was introduced in the State
> Government and Elections Committee. This is a tactic use to minimize
> the influence of pro-farm legislators, who would recognize the
> fundamental danger to farmers when animals are granted equal rights
> with humans, and when the concept of private ownership of animals is
> destroyed."
>
> Yates said it also seems fishy that numerous sensationalistic and
> inflammatory news articles, television news stories and National
> Public Radio broadcasts have appeared in Ohio over the past month.
> National Public Radio is funded with tax dollars, and ASDA plans to
> demand equal airtime to counter these biased news stories.
>
> Yates urges all Ohioans who have sporting dogs, own dogs of other
> breeds, who farm or who simply care about basic human rights to take
> an active role in this fight by joining ASDA and volunteering their
> time and talent to strike down this legislation and put real heat on
> the 38 legislators who support it. ASDA also has assembled a list of
> Ohio organizations that support this legislation, and businesses that
> support these groups, and will urge sporting dog owners to boycott
> them.
>
> ASDA's website can be accessed at
> http://www.americansportingdogalliance.org. Frequent updates about
> the Ohio situation will appear on the organization's journal blog,
> which can be accessed through this site.
>
> A full political and legal analysis of this legislation will be
> published on the ASDA website this week, but here are some of the
> most significant aspects of H.B. 225:
>
> • All litters of puppies born by regulated kennels must be
> registered with the state agency.
>
> • Each kennel operator will be required to post surety bonds
> and carry insurance to pay for the cost of any enforcement action
> against him or her.
>
> • The state will be given the power to confiscate dogs, both
> for alleged mistreatment and for technical violations of the kennel
> law.
>
> • Although violation of any part of this law would be
> considered a First Class Misdemeanor, subject to the criminal code
> and possible prison sentences and stiff fines, accused kennel owners
> are granted only the right to an administrative appeal through the
> Department of Agriculture.
>
> • It allows the Department of Agriculture to pass judgment on
> an applicant's competence to operate a kennel, without defining what
> standards will be used to make this determination, and gives the
> power to deny licensure to anyone deemed lacking "the expertise or
> capacity" to meet the requirements of the law. Photos of an
> applicant's kennel and various affidavits must be filed with each
> application.
>
> • The bill requires initial and annual criminal and personal
> background checks of kennel operators, and of all of their employees
> and family members who have contact with dogs, and also requires
> fingerprinting of each person involved. Kennel owners thus will have
> to meet the same background requirements as people who work with
> children or adults in schools, institutions, group homes and social
> service agencies. A kennel license would be denied if the operator, a
> kennel employee or a family member have been convicted of or pleaded
> guilty to animal abuse or domestic violence allegations at any time
> in their lives.
>
> • Grants complete power to the Department of Agriculture to
> create and enforce specific regulations about the care of dogs,
> kennel management, paperwork and facility design. The bill does not
> require either legislative oversight or public participation, and the
> specifics of the regulations are not contained in the text of the
> legislation. Specific information is being withheld from the
> legislature and citizens.
>
> • Annual kennel license fees ranging from $150 to $750 are
> imposed by the bill. Intermediaries (anyone who sells more than 25
> dogs or puppies a year) are required to pay an additional $500
> license fee. In addition, any citizen can request an inspection of
> any intermediary facility at any time and for any reason, and the
> request will be mandatory.
>
> • The bill also sets up contracts with animal shelters and
> rescue groups to house and care for any animals that are confiscated
> by the state.
>
> • Creates a 10-member oversight commission consisting of two
> members of the general assembly and eight members "representing
> various entities with an interest in dog kennels." There is no
> requirement for any of these representatives to be stakeholders in
> the issue, and the door is open for representation by animal rights
> groups. These eight seats will be held by political appointees who
> are not accountable to the Legislature or the voters.
>
> Here is a list of the 38 co-sponsors of the bill: Ohio Reps. Hughes
> (the prime sponsor), R. Hagan, D. Stewart, Flowers, Skindell, Combs,
> B. Williams, Seitz, Okey, Fende, Setzer, Bacon, Beatty, Brady,
> Otterman, Peterson, Brown, Yuko, J. Stewart, Luckie, Wolpert, J.
> McGregor, Webster, Evans, Ujvagi, Blessing, J. Hagan, Distel, Heard,
> Dyer, Celeste, Foley, Chandler, Hottinger, Strahorn, Schneider,
> Bolon, and Miller.
> Yates urges Ohioans and others to contact these legislators both in
> person and with strongly worded letters of protest aimed both at
> defeating this legislation, and having the co-sponsors formally
> withdraw their support from it.
> ASDA also is working to save Ohio field trial grounds at the Kildeer
> Plains and Indian Creek Wildlife Management Areas, which are being
> closed to trialing this coming April by state and federal wildlife
> agencies.>>
>
> To me it seems to be a rather radical proposal!
>
> Torsti
>
> Borta Med Vindens Kennel
> "Ask not what your dog can do for you.
> Ask what you can do for your dog."
> www.rospigan.net |
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rospigan
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| 12/19/2007 1:40 AM |
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Very interesting indeed! I sent a request to the
other list about the Ohio HB:s 225. I dont expect any answer  ))
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel
"Ask not what your dog
can do for you.
Ask what you can do for your dog."
www.rospigan.net
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:31
PM
Subject: RE: [working-gundog] From
another list
Interesting but Ohio house Bill 225 is about relaxing the
concealed weapons carry permit statute.
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=127_HB_225
Could
it be a ploy by some anti gun group who does not want the CWCP redefined so
more people can carry????
Writing your legislature saying Kill
Bill 225 thinking it is about your dog when it is about carry permits is a
brilliantly smart idea.
You got to love people who com eup with these
ideas....
Check it out and let me know if its a scam or somebody has
the wrong Bill number.
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cwalt
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| 12/19/2007 6:41 AM |
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| someone mistyped. it is house bill 223 and senate bill 173 that address this
"issue"
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=127_HB_223
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=127_SB_173
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farmd69
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| 12/19/2007 7:03 AM |
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Thanks. Everybody should read this....talk about big brother....You can go to jail for not trimming your dogs toe nails. Read how big a crate has to be.... Obviously put together by people who do not have, own dogs, or have a brain in their head.
I had a Samoyed. THe deeper the snow the colder the weather the less he wanted in the house and refused to go into the doghouse I made for him. According to this law I'd have been arrested.
I hope this gets stopped.
ted
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> From: cwalt@gwi.net
> To: working-gundog@web.whc.net
> Subject: Re: [working-gundog] From another list
> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:29:34 -0500
>
> someone mistyped. it is house bill 223 and senate bill 173 that address this
> "issue"
>
>
> http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=127_HB_223
>
> http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=127_SB_173
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mcotton
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| 12/20/2007 2:16 AM |
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I haven't read it but the animal rights had success in Europe are having
huge success in Australia and it is having repercussions on rest of dog
world.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Stucka"
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:53 AM
Subject: RE: [working-gundog] From another list
Thanks. Everybody should read this....talk about big brother....You can go
to jail for not trimming your dogs toe nails. Read how big a crate has to
be.... Obviously put together by people who do not have, own dogs, or have a
brain in their head.
I had a Samoyed. THe deeper the snow the colder the weather the less he
wanted in the house and refused to go into the doghouse I made for him.
According to this law I'd have been arrested.
I hope this gets stopped.
ted
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> From: cwalt@gwi.net
> To: working-gundog@web.whc.net
> Subject: Re: [working-gundog] From another list
> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:29:34 -0500
>
> someone mistyped. it is house bill 223 and senate bill 173 that address
> this
> "issue"
>
>
> http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=127_HB_223
>
> http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=127_SB_173
>
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rospigan
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