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07/07/2009 6:35 AM  
Anybody interested in Australian Pointer & Setter field trialling might like to check out the following site. In addition to trial results and text based descriptions, there are some outstanding photos of the dogs, the birds (wild Australian Stubble Quail) and the county. http://wgaa.blogspot.com/ Cheers, Rob
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07/07/2009 8:24 AM  
Neat photos! These quail are thought to be more closely related to rails rather than true quail. I wonder if the leggings were for snake or dew. Since it was winter, I'm guessing dew?
Jim


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From: Rob Clay
To: working-gundog@web.whc.net
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:21 am
Subject: [working-gundog] Oz Field Trials

Anybody interested in Australian Pointer & Setter field trialling might like to check out the following site. In addition to trial results and text based descriptions, there are some outstanding photos of the dogs, the birds (wild Australian Stubble Quail) and the county. 
 
http://wgaa.blogspot.com/ 
 
Cheers, 
Rob 
 
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07/07/2009 4:23 PM  
Hi Jim,

You're correct about the quail. They are neat little birds, our Brown Quail are similar to Bobwhites in terms of home range/territory, however the Stubble Quail are true nomads. Well adjusted to this country that frequently has regions of drought and flood simultaneously (as we do at present when the North of the country has received flooding rains, but the South is still desperately dry) the Stubble Quail fly by night, covering vast distances (1000s of miles) to take advantage of good conditions.

Your also correct about the leggings, at this time of year the are to keep the dew and burrs, seeds, sticks and other crap out of your boots. It will be a couple of months before we see snakes again in this cooler (southern) part of Australia.

Cheers,
Rob

 

jikoj@aol.com wrote:
Neat photos! These quail are thought to be more closely related to rails rather than true quail. I wonder if the leggings were for snake or dew. Since it was winter, I'm guessing dew?
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Clay
To: working-gundog@web.whc.net
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:21 am
Subject: [working-gundog] Oz Field Trials

Anybody interested in Australian Pointer & Setter field trialling might like to check out the following site. In addition to trial results and text based descriptions, there are some outstanding photos of the dogs, the birds (wild Australian Stubble Quail) and the county. 
 
http://wgaa.blogspot.com/ 
 
Cheers, 
Rob 
 

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07/09/2009 6:07 AM  
>>>>Anybody interested in Australian Pointer & Setter field trialling might
like to check out the following site. In addition to trial results and
text based descriptions, there are some outstanding photos of the dogs,
the birds (wild Australian Stubble Quail) and the county.
http://wgaa.blogspot.com/
Cheers,
Rob>>>>
This brings us to new and interesting problems. How do we convey a message over the internet so that all of those who we want to understand it gets the most out of it? When we look at all the good photos from your Oz field trials most of us will experience that there is something more that we would like to know? Personally I started to wonder how the flushed birds down there fly - are they difficult to shoot? Do they fly in a rather straight line like partridge, curbed fashion and downhill like willow grouse or do they fling from side to side like snipe? Well, there does not seem to be too much "downhill" possibilities on those plains so probably they fly either straight or unpredictable from side to side?
 
Anyway, my reasoning starts some years back, in 2006 to be correct. That was when my heart problems were discovered. Waiting for a by-pass operation I had to start to eat different medicines that did both good and bad to me, before the bad ones were sorted out and that took 2 years. In the mean time Maud and me continued to shoot clay pigeons regularly. Due to the heart problem as well as the different drugs my shooting deteriorated for a period, mostly due to mental disability to concentrate properly on each target. This of course to some extent made me feel bad and sad but it also awakened my curiosity to how to train good game shooting. Since I could not work I had all the time to study wing shooting. In due time I had the by-pass operation, as well as I had sorted out and quit the use of some of the bad drugs. After the operation my shooting in general  improved and I started to concentrate on particular targets that were difficult for me. I rather soon realised that England is the place in the world where most small game has been shot, where the best shotguns are built and where "the art of game shooting" had been perfected better than anywhere else in the world. That was the place to search for knowledge.
 
"The art of game shooting" consist to a great part of perfecting the body control of the shooter. Here I found that I was not very aware of how I moved my body, even though I thought I was. I could swear that I did not do this or that particular fault - even though the British books and videos, as well as Maud and other shooting friends said I made those faults. We had an old video camera that was about to  breathe its last sigh. Since Maud also had some shooting problems we decided that we should go to the West Stockholm Shooting School to get her a lesson and I would document the entire lesson on video tape, so that we could continue to analyse it back home. The owner of that school has got her (yes, its a woman, good with the gun as well as spaniels) education and training at the West London Shooting School so the instruction follows the British path into the smallest detail.
 
When we looked at the video back home we realised what a great tool this camcorder really is. Unfortunately it was that camcorders last job, it passed away silently after the job was finished. During the 15 years we had had it it had documented hundreds of hours of dog training and dog mentality at the late Swedish Dog Training Centre were we attended gundog training classes for totally 6 weeks. I believe that material is unique and invaluable today.
 
However, to the person doing either wing shooting or communicating with a dog, body control is essential and the one who is not aware of his body will never learn to shoot or train a dog perfectly well. That is the truth and nothing but the truth. The video is a great, sometimes the only, tool to make a person  - like myself - to understand that he does, or does not, this or that in a wrong way.
 
So I understood that in order to get further with my shooting and also dog training,  and to take the sharing of our experiences with dogs on our web-site into a new dimension, I had to buy a new camcorder. Since we have so much experience from photography and the equipment needed for it,  I decided that I do not want to buy a new camcorder before I can afford one that can do what I want, particularly for as long as I want, without batteries run empty or the storage media to become full. I had to wait until I started to work again but now I have a Sony (HVR-HD1000E) that can be held at the shoulder, that is much more comfortable than to try to hold a smaller camera in front of our face. It uses small  one hour DV - tapes, a pocket full of them will not cost more than a few hundred dollars, and its battery will last 8 - 10 hours, an entire day on the field in other words.
 
 I was not pleased with the microphone so I ordered a RODE microphone, without knowing they are made in Australia, hence I had to wait a couple of months before it arrived. I also needed a good video stand (tripod) but did not know what to buy so two days ago we drove 500 kms to Scandinavia's biggest photostore http://www.scandinavianphoto.se/ and their exhibition in southern Sweden. I got what I wanted, Maud bought a new macro lens to her Nikon to be able to shoot flowers and insects,  and then we visited over the night the ES bitch Bejla that is a cousin to Briz. She is our late Foxys sister Fifty-Fifty's, also dead not, child. Bejla is a beauty with a wonderful mentality.
 
Anyway, what remains to get now are a pair of radio microphones also,  but they are expensive so they have to wait until next year or something like that. Then we have all the hardware we need.
 
Well, all those gear and gadgets you can buy with money. Something money cant buy is knowledge in how to edit the video. I downloaded an AVS video editor from the net for US$ 53  and now I have to learn and train to use it. Actually I know nothing about digital video editing, although I did some analogue editing years ago with my old video camera and a couple of good play back units.
 
Maud is very good with Photoshop and I can use it reasonably well but now we have run into a new world were they speak a language that we do not understand very much of. So I guess it takes a number of months, half year or a year before I can make any decent videos but in the mean time I can shoot and store the material on an external  harddrive so when I feel i can make something out of it, the material  is there already.
 
Hopefully we can publish something simple with birddogs already this autumn. In the best case, if we are really lucky, we can get a puppy or two soon and then we could document their development during many years to come. We will see, we don't even know if the bitch is pregnant and should she be, then there has to be a lot of bitch puppies also so that we can perhaps get one. They are very sought after and it is up to the breeder to decide who will get them. We can only offer a good home but there are many folks up in the north who can offer a lot of hunting and trialling for the pups also. You could say that we are not very competitive in that branch :-))
 
Torsti
 
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www.rospigan.net
"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous,
he will not bite you; that is the principal difference
between a dog and a man." /Mark Twain
 

 
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