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robclayau
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| 06/27/2009 9:46 PM |
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| Hi all,
An article I wrote reflecting on my 2009 Duck Season has been published
on pages 6-7 of the SSAA VicShooter magazine. If you're interested in
having a read go to the SSAA-Vic website http://ssaavic.com.au/ssaa.php
then click on "Download June VicShooter", it's under the orange banner,
half way down the page on the left.
Cheers,
Rob
PS It's a 1.5Mb file, I guess that might be a bit slow on dial up? Does
anybody still have dial up these days?
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rospigan
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It was interesting to read about using your pointer as a rough
shooting dog. Even though they flush and retrive an occasional duck in
Sweden also, most folks use them as classical specialist pointing
dogs.
The hydatids
article is also interesting and I wonder if the tape worm is similar to
something we have down in Europe but that only seems to attack the liver of fox,
dog and humans, however with deadly results. We are scared of getting it to
Scandinavia since foxs faeces can infect berries like blue-berries and
lingonberries and we eat a lot of berries
here.
Whats wrong with the mountain duck when you have to soak it in
curry  ))
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel www.rospigan.net "If you pick up a
starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the
principal difference between a dog and a man." /Mark Twain
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:31 AM
Subject: [working-gundog] Duck
Hunting
Hi all,
An article I wrote reflecting on my 2009 Duck Season
has been published
on pages 6-7 of the SSAA VicShooter magazine. If you're
interested in
having a read go to the SSAA-Vic website http://ssaavic.com.au/ssaa.php
then click on "Download June VicShooter", it's under the orange banner,
half way down the page on the left.
Cheers,
Rob
PS It's a
1.5Mb file, I guess that might be a bit slow on dial up? Does
anybody
still have dial up these days?
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robclayau
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Posts:36
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| 06/28/2009 7:07 PM |
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Maud & Torsti wrote:
It was interesting to read about using your
pointer as a rough shooting dog. Even though they flush and retrive an
occasional duck in Sweden also, most folks use them as classical
specialist pointing dogs.
I guess a lot of it has to do with the climate you are hunting in. If
you are in near freezing temperatures (or lower), then a Lab or a
DD/GWP will likely be your dog of choice. But here in Australia it's
pretty mild, even where I live which is one of the coldest pats of the
country. Duck hunting here, there is no snow, the water never freezes
and anything less than +10oC is considered a cold day. This is my first
pointer (I've had a number of gundog breeds including Setters,
Brittany, English Springer Spaniel) and I'd have to say I'm quite
impressed. The pointer bitch has a love of game and I guess that's the
main trait in a gundog. She runs hard and performs well in a field as a
pointer should. In addition she's loves to swim and is a very good duck
retriever. As a rough shooting dog, she's very good.
I also think that much of a dog's performance is influenced by owner
expectations. Many pointer owners don't expect their dogs to do
anything other than upland bird work, so the dogs are never given the
opportunity or the training. Pointers might not be ideal for cold
weather work, but a pointer coat affords about the same protection as a
Weimeraner's.
The use of a gundog to assist with the location of game while sambar
deer hunting is quite popular here and some of the best known and most
successful dogs are pointers. There are deer hunting pointers that live
in the mountains and will never see a quail or grouse.
I guess as a broad generalisation, it is fare to say well breed
pointers have a good nose
and a love of game, what you do with them after that it up to you.
The hydatids
article is also interesting and I wonder if the tape worm is
similar to something we have down in Europe but that only seems to
attack the liver of fox, dog and humans, however with deadly results.
We are scared of getting it to Scandinavia since foxs faeces can infect
berries like blue-berries and lingonberries and we eat a lot of berries
here.
Could be similar, hydatid must be somewhere in Europe, since that's
where we got it from. (Original imports of livestock etc, back when
Europeans first came to Australia). In Australia we treat our dogs
every 3 months with a broad spectrum worm tablet and the reason for
that treatment is hydatids. When I was living in the USA, dogs were
only treated for worms when they showed signs of infection (worms in
their stools etc). The vet I spoke to said it was because there was no
hydatids in the USA, so the risks to humans of canine spread worms was
far less.
Whats wrong with the mountain duck when you have
to soak it in curry ))
Mountain ducks are much bigger, tougher and have stronger flavour than
our other duck species. Many people don't like to shoot them, or more
correctly don't like to eat them, and hence don't shoot them. However,
with the correct preparation they can be delicious. I think that the
art of game cooking is being lost in our modern, agricultural world.
Where once game meat was the food of kings, it is now frequently
thought of very poorly. We are accustomed to buying fat, immature
chickens, or fat ladened beef/lamb from the supermarket. When we try to
cook game meat in the same way as these agricultural meats it turns out
as tough as boot leather, so instead of learning (relearning) to cook
the game meat properly, it gets thrown to the dogs and we buy a
hamburger. One of my hobbies it researching game meats and the best
ways to cook them. I read ancient cookbooks and talk to the "old
timers" about the game recipes. I very much enjoy the lean, robust
flavours of well prepared game.
After a very good duck season, my quail season has been a bit quiet.
I've got some local wild birds that I train on (don't shoot), but not
like in a good year. So far I've done a lot of walking for a dozen
quail in the bag. I'm seeing good numbers of rabbits, to the point
where I decided to buy a new rimfire rifle. I haven't had a rimfire
rifle since I lost the semiauto .22 that my grandfather left to me in a
government enforced buy back. Initially I thought to get another .22LR,
but researching I've been reading about these new .17 rimfires. The
.17HMR and the .17M2. The .17HMR sounds like it would be a lot of fun,
flat shooting and super accurate, but maybe too much gun for rabbits if
you want to eat the meat. Ammo is also quite expensive, 50cents/round,
which is about x10 the price of .22LR ammo. So I think I'll stick with
the .22, but the still the .17HMR does sound like fun.
There are also good numbers of goat and sambar deer in the hills close
to my place and I'll be hunting them again in the near future. At the
moment our small chest freezer is full. I'm planning to get a bigger,
upright one freezer and use the old chest freezer for storing dog meat.
Cheers,
Rob
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jmurr
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| 06/28/2009 11:12 PM |
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| There are hydatid disease occurs in Alaska - see
http://www.wc.adfg.state.ak.us/index.cfm?adfg=disease.internal4
Jere
> Maud & Torsti wrote:
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>>
>> The *h**ydatids *article is also interesting and I wonder if the tape
>> worm is similar to something we have down in Europe but that only
>> seems to attack the liver of fox, dog and humans, however with deadly
>> results. We are scared of getting it to Scandinavia since foxs faeces
>> can infect berries like blue-berries and lingonberries and we eat a
>> lot of berries here.
> Could be similar, hydatid must be somewhere in Europe, since that's
> where we got it from. (Original imports of livestock etc, back when
> Europeans first came to Australia). In Australia we treat our dogs every
> 3 months with a broad spectrum worm tablet and the reason for that
> treatment is hydatids. When I was living in the USA, dogs were only
> treated for worms when they showed signs of infection (worms in their
> stools etc). The vet I spoke to said it was because there was no
> hydatids in the USA, so the risks to humans of canine spread worms was
> far less.
>
>
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> Cheers,
> Rob
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robclayau
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| 06/29/2009 12:13 AM |
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Hi Jere - Yep thats the same tapeworm that we have (Echinococcus
granulosus). A couple of links if anybody is interested,
(http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/249686/Hydatids-the-basics.pdf)
(http://www.science.org.au/nova/056/056print.htm)
In Aust. the disease is most common in areas where there is sheep
grazing. I recall reading somewhere that researchers found a
significant percentage (approx 15% from memory) of foxes in sheep
country were infected. They also found significant numbers of herding
dogs that work on sheep farms were infected. Human infection rates: The
second article states that there were 321 reported cases of infection
between '87-'92. As in the article Jere posted, Aust. hunters are
advised to wear gloves when skinning their game. Very few do.
Rob
Jere Murray wrote:
There are hydatid disease occurs in Alaska - see
http://www.wc.adfg.state.ak.us/index.cfm?adfg=disease.internal4
Jere
Maud & Torsti wrote:
...
The *h**ydatids *article is also interesting and I wonder if the tape
worm is similar to something we have down in Europe but that only
seems to attack the liver of fox, dog and humans, however with deadly
results. We are scared of getting it to Scandinavia since foxs faeces
can infect berries like blue-berries and lingonberries and we eat a
lot of berries here.
Could be similar, hydatid must be somewhere in Europe, since that's
where we got it from. (Original imports of livestock etc, back when
Europeans first came to Australia). In Australia we treat our dogs every
3 months with a broad spectrum worm tablet and the reason for that
treatment is hydatids. When I was living in the USA, dogs were only
treated for worms when they showed signs of infection (worms in their
stools etc). The vet I spoke to said it was because there was no
hydatids in the USA, so the risks to humans of canine spread worms was
far less.
Cheers,
Rob
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jerry
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| Seems like the list has reawakened!
Please forgive my ignorance, but can someone define for me the meaning
of a "rough shooting dog"? It's
not a term I'm familiar with here in the northeastern mountains of the USA.
> When I was living in the USA, dogs were only treated for worms when
> they showed signs of infection (worms in their stools etc). The vet I
> spoke to said it was because there was no hydatids in the USA, so the
> risks to humans of canine spread worms was far less.
My dogs are on a monthly broad spectrum treatment for worms, ticks and
fleas. I think that is probably
more common these days.
>> I think that the art of game cooking is being lost in our modern,
>> agricultural world. Where once game meat was the food of kings, it is
>> now frequently thought of very poorly. We are accustomed to buying
>> fat, immature chickens, or fat ladened beef/lamb from the
>> supermarket. When we try to cook game meat in the same way as these
>> agricultural meats it turns out as tough as boot leather, so instead
>> of learning (relearning) to cook the game meat properly, it gets
>> thrown to the dogs and we buy a hamburger. One of my hobbies it
>> researching game meats and the best ways to cook them. I read ancient
>> cookbooks and talk to the "old timers" about the game recipes. I very
>> much enjoy the lean, robust flavours of well prepared game.
>
Well said, sir! I too experiment with different cooking methods for
game. Two of my recent favorites are
a very tasty Venison Roulade with Gorgonzola cheese and spinch filling
and a juicy Curried Canada Goose over rice.
As you mentioned, game here can be looked down on as inferior and
"disgusting" by more urbanized people.
They simply have no idea how good it is.
> 17HMR sounds like it would be a lot of fun, flat shooting and super
> accurate, but maybe too much gun for rabbits if you want to eat the meat.
You are correct. The .17HMR would disintegrate a rabbit.
What is a "Sambar deer"? Is it like our Whitetail deer here in the
states? At the ripe old age of 51 I suddenly find
myself interested in deer hunting! Last year I took my first and second
deer ever, the first being taken with a bow and arrow.
Now I am interested in all things archery and hope to take some geese
with the bow this coming fall season as well as more
of the deer that gorge themselves on my succulent vegetable garden.
Cheers,
Jerry
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rospigan
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Rob wrote:
>>>Mountain ducks are much bigger, tougher and have stronger
flavour than our other duck species. Many people don't like to shoot them, or
more correctly don't like to eat them, and hence don't shoot them. However, with
the correct preparation they can be delicious. I think that the art of game
cooking is being lost in our modern, agricultural world. Where once game meat
was the food of kings, it is now frequently thought of very poorly. We are
accustomed to buying fat, immature chickens, or fat ladened beef/lamb from the
supermarket. When we try to cook game meat in the same way as these agricultural
meats it turns out as tough as boot leather, so instead of learning (relearning)
to cook the game meat properly, it gets thrown to the dogs and we buy a
hamburger. One of my hobbies it researching game meats and the best ways to cook
them. I read ancient cookbooks and talk to the "old timers" about the game
recipes. I very much enjoy the lean, robust flavours of well prepared
game.>>>
My favorite is the white winged scooter, an artic deep diving duck. It eats
among other things mussels and becomes very fat in the winter, with a thick
layer of yellow train under the skin. The train is very sensitive to oxygen and
gets rancid pretty quick. In a freezer it wont last for more than a few months,
2 - 3 perhaps. But taken very fresh, plucked and burned clean from all down,
intestines removed and the body salted for a few hours, you have a wonderful
candidate for the best meal of your life. You can put it in a casserole with
simple flavoring for a few hours. I rather grill it over an open fire made
of juniper and alder or smoke it in a smokehouse. You will then die from delight
with the yellow train dripping from the corner of your mouth ))
However most modern folks dislike the taste of train, even if it is fresh.
I pity them...
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel www.rospigan.net "If you pick up a
starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the
principal difference between a dog and a man." /Mark Twain
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farmd69
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Jerry,
Rough shooting is taking your dog and walking around looking for game instead of having the game driven to you.
Basically rough shooting is the same as what you and I do when we hunt in the USA.
Too much rain and cold in the northeast these last 3 weeks. Lots of rabbits (May was dry) around but have not seen any turkey poults yet. I hope ths weather didn't kill most of them. Looks like we will have thick cover with all this rain. Too wet get onto my fields to kill the weeds as they are overtaking the corn and beans.
So many dams many beavers. They keep the culverts plug ruining my ability to get farm equipment into some fields. While I have a permit to shoot them, the beavers are all over the place making things stay even wetter. (Buy fur I need them gone)
I built some ponds thanks to the wetland reserve program last year and planted a couple of acres with wild rice. The geese and ducks are doing their best to eat the rice as fast as it grows. (Muskrats ate all the rice out of a couple of small ponds already) Hopefully the rice will win out and reseed itself. Trading snapping turtles for dinners at a local restaurant. (Boy do the turtles take a toll on young waterfowl so it's win win for everybody)
I am raising some melanistic pheasants this year along with the manchurian ringneck cross. Both species are doing well. Now I just need to kill all the racoons that keep coming around the pens bothering both my free range chickens and penned pheasants. Other than that it's been a quiet spring.
ted
> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:03:01 -0400
> From: jerry@mlink.com
> To: working-gundog@web.whc.net
> Subject: Re: [working-gundog] Duck Hunting
>
> Seems like the list has reawakened!
>
> Please forgive my ignorance, but can someone define for me the meaning
> of a "rough shooting dog"? It's
> not a term I'm familiar with here in the northeastern mountains of the USA.
>
> > When I was living in the USA, dogs were only treated for worms when
> > they showed signs of infection (worms in their stools etc). The vet I
> > spoke to said it was because there was no hydatids in the USA, so the
> > risks to humans of canine spread worms was far less.
>
> My dogs are on a monthly broad spectrum treatment for worms, ticks and
> fleas. I think that is probably
> more common these days.
>
> >> I think that the art of game cooking is being lost in our modern,
> >> agricultural world. Where once game meat was the food of kings, it is
> >> now frequently thought of very poorly. We are accustomed to buying
> >> fat, immature chickens, or fat ladened beef/lamb from the
> >> supermarket. When we try to cook game meat in the same way as these
> >> agricultural meats it turns out as tough as boot leather, so instead
> >> of learning (relearning) to cook the game meat properly, it gets
> >> thrown to the dogs and we buy a hamburger. One of my hobbies it
> >> researching game meats and the best ways to cook them. I read ancient
> >> cookbooks and talk to the "old timers" about the game recipes. I very
> >> much enjoy the lean, robust flavours of well prepared game.
> >
>
> Well said, sir! I too experiment with different cooking methods for
> game. Two of my recent favorites are
> a very tasty Venison Roulade with Gorgonzola cheese and spinch filling
> and a juicy Curried Canada Goose over rice.
> As you mentioned, game here can be looked down on as inferior and
> "disgusting" by more urbanized people.
> They simply have no idea how good it is.
>
>
> > 17HMR sounds like it would be a lot of fun, flat shooting and super
> > accurate, but maybe too much gun for rabbits if you want to eat the meat.
>
> You are correct. The .17HMR would disintegrate a rabbit.
>
> What is a "Sambar deer"? Is it like our Whitetail deer here in the
> states? At the ripe old age of 51 I suddenly find
> myself interested in deer hunting! Last year I took my first and second
> deer ever, the first being taken with a bow and arrow.
> Now I am interested in all things archery and hope to take some geese
> with the bow this coming fall season as well as more
> of the deer that gorge themselves on my succulent vegetable garden.
>
> Cheers,
> Jerry
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jerry
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| 06/29/2009 9:45 AM |
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Ted,
At first I thought "rough shooting" was a description of my ability to hit
birds on the wing. I like
the alternative definition better. Most of the cover around here is very
thick and makes for lots
of work but it's all the more exciting when a rooster pheasant or a grouse
rockets out of the brush
unexpectedly. We don't have "rabbits" here but do have a healthy population
of snowshoe hare.
Too much rain and cold here as well. I'm managing to stay ahead of the weeds,
but it means marathon
days in the field when the weather is good. The peas, lettuce and other cool
weather crops love it though.
It also limits my fishing time which I'm not too happy about.
No beaver or raccoon problems here, but the deer are getting a little too
comfortable around the fruit
trees and corn. I'm finding young trees stripped of every leaf! You'd think
being surrounded by millions
of acres of forest and field that they'd have enough forage without raiding
my stuff! They will pay the
ultimate price this fall when archery season opens up.
Lots of duck and goose broods in the area in spite of the weather. It looks
to be a good production
year for waterfowl. Latest Ducks Unlimited reports look good for Quebec and
maritime broods.
Ted Stucka wrote:
Jerry,
Rough shooting is taking your dog and walking around looking for game instead
of having the game driven to you.
Basically rough shooting is the same as what you and I do when we hunt in
the USA.
Too much rain and cold in the northeast these last 3 weeks. Lots of rabbits
(May was dry) around but have not seen any turkey poults yet. I hope ths weather
didn't kill most of them. Looks like we will have thick cover with all this
rain. Too wet get onto my fields to kill the weeds as they are overtaking
the corn and beans.
So many dams many beavers. They keep the culverts plug ruining my ability
to get farm equipment into some fields. While I have a permit to shoot them,
the beavers are all over the place making things stay even wetter. (Buy fur
I need them gone)
I built some ponds thanks to the wetland reserve program last year and planted
a couple of acres with wild rice. The geese and ducks are doing their best
to eat the rice as fast as it grows. (Muskrats ate all the rice out of a
couple of small ponds already) Hopefully the rice will win out and reseed
itself. Trading snapping turtles for dinners at a local restaurant. (Boy
do the turtles take a toll on young waterfowl so it's win win for everybody)
I am raising some melanistic pheasants this year along with the manchurian
ringneck cross. Both species are doing well. Now I just need to kill all
the racoons that keep coming around the pens bothering both my free range
chickens and penned pheasants. Other than that it's been a quiet spring.
ted
> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:03:01 -0400
> From: jerry@mlink.com
> To: working-gundog@web.whc.net
> Subject: Re: [working-gundog] Duck Hunting
>
> Seems like the list has reawakened!
>
> Please forgive my ignorance, but can someone define for me the meaning
> of a "rough shooting dog"? It's
> not a term I'm familiar with here in the northeastern mountains of the
USA.
>
> > When I was living in the USA, dogs were only treated for worms
when
> > they showed signs of infection (worms in their stools etc). The
vet I
> > spoke to said it was because there was no hydatids in the USA,
so the
> > risks to humans of canine spread worms was far less.
>
> My dogs are on a monthly broad spectrum treatment for worms, ticks and
> fleas. I think that is probably
> more common these days.
>
> >> I think that the art of game cooking is being lost in our modern,
> >> agricultural world. Where once game meat was the food of kings,
it is
> >> now frequently thought of very poorly. We are accustomed to
buying
> >> fat, immature chickens, or fat ladened beef/lamb from the
> >> supermarket. When we try to cook game meat in the same way
as these
> >> agricultural meats it turns out as tough as boot leather, so
instead
> >> of learning (relearning) to cook the game meat properly, it
gets
> >> thrown to the dogs and we buy a hamburger. One of my hobbies
it
> >> researching game meats and the best ways to cook them. I read
ancient
> >> cookbooks and talk to the "old timers" about the game recipes.
I very
> >> much enjoy the lean, robust flavours of well prepared game.
> >
>
> Well said, sir! I too experiment with different cooking methods for
> game. Two of my recent favorites are
> a very tasty Venison Roulade with Gorgonzola cheese and spinch filling
> and a juicy Curried Canada Goose over rice.
> As you mentioned, game here can be looked down on as inferior and
> "disgusting" by more urbanized people.
> They simply have no idea how good it is.
>
>
> > 17HMR sounds like it would be a lot of fun, flat shooting and super
> > accurate, but maybe too much gun for rabbits if you want to eat
the meat.
>
> You are correct. The .17HMR would disintegrate a rabbit.
>
> What is a "Sambar deer"? Is it like our Whitetail deer here in the
> states? At the ripe old age of 51 I suddenly find
> myself interested in deer hunting! Last year I took my first and second
> deer ever, the first being taken with a bow and arrow.
> Now I am interested in all things archery and hope to take some geese
> with the bow this coming fall season as well as more
> of the deer that gorge themselves on my succulent vegetable garden.
>
> Cheers,
> Jerry
>
>
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Please, can someone please tell me how to unsubscribe to this list? Thank you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Maud & Torsti
To: working-gundog@web.whc.net
Sent: Mon, Jun 29, 2009 9:45 am
Subject: Re: [working-gundog] Duck Hunting
Rob wrote:
>>>Mountain ducks are much bigger, tougher and have stronger flavour than our other duck species. Many people don't like to shoot them, or more correctly don't like to eat them, and hence don't shoot them. However, with the correct preparation they can be delicious. I think that the art of game cooking is being lost in our modern, agricultural world. Where once game meat was the food of kings, it is now frequently thought of very poorly. We are accustomed to buying fat, immature chickens, or fat ladened beef/lamb from the supermarket. When we try to cook game meat in the same way as these agricultural meats it turns out as tough as boot leather, so instead of learning (relearning) to cook the game meat properly, it gets thrown to the dogs and we buy a hamburger. One of my hobbies it researching game meats and the best ways to cook them. I read ancient cookbooks and talk to the "old timers" about the game recipes. I very much enjoy the lean, robust flavour!
s of well prepared game.>>>
My favorite is the white winged scooter, an artic deep diving duck. It eats among other things mussels and becomes very fat in the winter, with a thick layer of yellow train under the skin. The train is very sensitive to oxygen and gets rancid pretty quick. In a freezer it wont last for more than a few months, 2 - 3 perhaps. But taken very fresh, plucked and burned clean from all down, intestines removed and the body salted for a few hours, you have a wonderful candidate for the best meal of your life. You can put it in a casserole with simple flavoring for a few hours. I rather grill it over an open fire made of juniper and alder or smoke it in a smokehouse. You will then die from delight with the yellow train dripping from the corner of your mouth ))
However most modern folks dislike the taste of train, even if it is fresh. I pity them...
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel
www.rospigan.net
"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous,
he will not bite you; that is the principal difference
between a dog and a man." /Mark Twain
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robclayau
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| Hi Jerry
Jerry wrote:
> Seems like the list has reawakened!
>
> Please forgive my ignorance, but can someone define for me the meaning
> of a "rough shooting dog"? It's
> not a term I'm familiar with here in the northeastern mountains of the
> USA.
>
OK here's my (Aussie) understanding of UK hunting terms:
Fox Hunting = Hunting on horseback with packs of fox hounds
Stalking = Deer Hunting
A Shoot = A driven shoot. Beaters drive (push) birds, generally
pheasants, toward waiting shooters. The shooters are called guns
Rough Shooting = Basically hunting. Grab a gun and dog and head out in
search of game, generally upland birds, waterfowl and rabbits.
Rough Shooting Dog = A dog that assists with rough shooting, locating
game before the shot and then retrieving it once it has been shot.
Generally a Spaniel or one of the Versatile breeds.
>
> Two of my recent favorites are a very tasty Venison Roulade with
> Gorgonzola cheese and spinch filling and a juicy Curried Canada Goose
> over rice.
> As you mentioned, game here can be looked down on as inferior and
> "disgusting" by more urbanized people.
> They simply have no idea how good it is.
Jerry these sound delicious!! Any chance you could share your recipes
please?
> What is a "Sambar deer"? Is it like our Whitetail deer here in the states?
Pretty much - just a lot bigger. They are an Asian deer found in India
and Sri Lanka. When Europeans first arrived in Australia, they found
there were no foxes, rabbits or deer to hunt, so they introduced them.
Foxes and rabbits found this country to be a paradise and reproduced
with unimaginable success. Deer were slower to take hold. Most
introductions failed. Sambar are by far the most successful and
widespread, they have now become firmly established in the South Eastern
parts of the Australia. Much of the Sambar's original habitat in Asia
has been lost to human development, so Australia now has some of the
best free range Sambar hunting in the world.
> At the ripe old age of 51 I suddenly find
> myself interested in deer hunting! Last year I took my first and
> second deer ever, the first being taken with a bow and arrow.
> Now I am interested in all things archery and hope to take some geese
> with the bow this coming fall season as well as more
> of the deer that gorge themselves on my succulent vegetable garden.
It's a great life isn't it. When living in Virginia I spent my of the
Fall/Winter doing exactly the same thing. I never managed to get a goose
with a bow though.
Cheers,
Rob
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