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11/07/2008 1:31 AM  
...for a change. It has been sunny, mostly a blue sky, not much wind and temperatures around 0 centigrade. I have been expecting the laverat to come to shallow waters to spawn and had a couple of nets in the sea last night but did not catch anything. Maybe the water still is too warm........ The fish are very sensitive to temperature. Some professor said long ago that to the Baltic herring a change of 0.5 Centigrade is the same as 5 C to us humans.
 
Our meat freezer is becoming full but if I move some bones for dogs to another freezer I could probably press down another roe-deer.
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Finding the special bronze age rock carving I want to use to illustrate Cj's thoughts about stone age dogs has proved to be a difficult task. I have now connected the Swedish Historical Museum to the case and they have sent the request further to an expert in Swedish rock carvings so the case has now expanded beyond belief! 
 
Well, well - I have a plan B. I know of other rock carvings not too far from us, there are dramatic scenes of boar hunting with dogs but those carvings are not the oldest with dogs involved, maybe they are from 1700 - 2000 BC.
 
After I have been thinking about the subject more carefully I believe that I was swimming in deep water when I wrote:
 
>>>I think that in modern times (the last 2000 - 4000 years perhaps) religion has made an unrestrained relation to animals difficult.>>>
 
The modern Christian religion was born in the middle east around 2000 years ago and it took a while for it to spread around the world. Our Vikings (800 - 1100 AD) for example had their own Nordic religion with Tor, Oden and Valhalla (  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla ) and not until the middle age did the Lutheran religion start to spread to Scandinavia.
 
As for the Islamic view of life, it is even younger, as far as I know. So in fact I have no really good idea of how animals were viewed upon in Europe and the middle east before that. Were they "slaves" or were they "brothers and sisters" ? Further eastward we know about the Hindu and Buddhist religion and their relation to animals. Then again, as far as I know, modern research was never invented or practised in that part of the world. What did the ancient Greece philosopher think about animals?
 
There are questions and most likely also answers, although I am ignorant about them.
 
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