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09/02/2008 2:20 PM  
As I mentioned earlier we had some problem with DVD burner crashes and reboots on one of our computers. Since you all who read this have computers I could give you a short story about mine. The computer refused to reboot in a normal way but I had to disconnect it entirely from the power net for perhaps 10 - 15 seconds. Then it again started in a normal way. Since a normal reboot is needed in order to install updates of drivers, and even when installing a new the operating system this is an important function. I do not have to tell you about all the efforts I made with BIOS, chipset drivers, motherboard drivers, system diagnosis and that kind of sweaty stuff, for 4 days, there are a million possibilities in those systems for a problem to create.
 
I also disconnected about all peripheral stuff from the computer without success. I disconnected two storage harddrives and let the C drive (master drive) stay connected only. I put in a new C drive in order to reinstall the OS on it but of course it was impossible since the computer could not reboot in a normal way. I connected the old C drive again yesterday and though that we have to unplug the computer from the power every time we are finished for the day, so that it can be started the next time. I was about ready to leave it to a computer repair shop at some time later this month, when we did not need what it contains  that much.
 
However this morning it struck me that I had not tried to reboot it with the DVD/CD drive and floppy disk drive disconnected at the same time, a combination I had not thought of. I disconnected them both, it takes a few seconds to do it without tools if the chassis is already open. Now the reboot worked wonderfully. I went to a store and bought a new DVD/CD drive and now everything works fine again, even with the floppy drive also connected. Obviously the combination of a faulty DVD drive and the floppy drive, even if without a fault, jammed the restart.
 
The reason why I decided that the DVD drive was faulty was that it was hard for me to imagine that a simple stone age floppy drive that rarely had been used could cause the computer to jam. DVD drives/burners on the other hand are high-tech and can do anything to "drive" you mad.
 
Now, I should have known about this possibility, since as I now look at that other, older computer, I can see that its DVD drives colour do not match the chassis colour, at some stage I must have replaced it,  and that reminds me of still an older generation of computers where I also had to change the DVD drive because it caused trouble.
 
I guess I have been a technician for too many decades. My way of working is something like this: Find the problem, Fix the problem, Forget the problem. Forget I do for sure! Keeping a diary beside the computer would be a very wise thing to do. Now I "wasted" 4 days for a problem that would have been solved within a few hours had I had a diary to look back into.
 
Anyway, my simple advise is this: If you have a mysterious problem that you can not diagnose, try to disconnect the DVD and floppy drives first, if you know enough to open the chassis and was about to open it anyway. It only takes seconds to do it and the DVD drives/burners are probably causing mysterious problems more often than the average of all the other components in the computer. If it doesn't work you have not wasted more than a few minutes of your time. If it works you have saved days or even weeks.
 
Just follow the common rules of working only with the computer disconnect from any power supply, even peripheral USB devices and screens, and the protection from static electricity.  
 
Torsti
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09/02/2008 2:39 PM  
Re: [working-gundog] Computer problems


Just follow the common rules of working only with the computer disconnect from any power supply, even peripheral USB devices and screens, and the protection from static electricity.
 
Torsti

Or better still ask my husband:-)  Actually that is a problem because I will never know or understand how things work, if I can just shout ‘help’!

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09/02/2008 3:12 PM  
Re: [working-gundog] Computer problems
"Or better still ask my husband:-)  Actually that is a problem because I will never know or understand how things work, if I can just shout ‘help’!
Sonia"
 
 
Well, the hint is meant for those who do some simple computer mechanics and there are many of them out there. The DVD is even simpler to replace than a HDD once you have made the diagnosis and that is the tough part. Hence I thought I may offer some help to someboby. I know that the service level of workshops is much higher in England than in Sweden. If you leave a gun for repair here you might get it back after 6 months if you are very lucky. In UK you leave it to a gunsmith on Monday and have it back on Friday!
 
 I left my first "real" Windows computer in 1995 to a workshop and got it back after 4 weeks. The workshop was 1 1/2 hours drive from us only. Today I try to avoid such a misstake and try to fix things myself as far as possible. I actually asked a workshop how long it would take for them to fix my computer. They said at least a week. I did it from start to finish in 5 days and could even use it meanwhile!
 
 
Torsti 

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Ask what you can do for your dog."
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