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cwalt

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08/30/2008 7:35 AM
Sonia Skinner wrote: > > >> have a lot more to say about shaping the delivery to hand as a technique >> to polish retrieving all the way back to the initial 'fetch' command if >> you are interested. >> > > Yes, I am interested as I am sure others will be. Having my dog bring back > the retrieve, without formally sitting and presenting as he can already do, > I hope can overcome the "play/jealousy" with other dogs and I can then > polish up the retrieve again at a later date. Each evening in the house, we > sit together, him facing me and do a "hold and give", so the basics will be > there. > > Sonia > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > If you and the dog have become accustomed to the delivery ritual I outlined you can use the ritual to shape the retrieve. If the dog is slow and fools around on the retrieve you modify the ritual by cutting it short. A good retrieve gets the full smile and ritual for delivery. A poor delivery merits a command to sit followed by a curt 'give' command. A sloppy retrieve yields no smile and bending over rather than kneeling. In other words the proper delivery ritual is reserved for the best performance. After a while the delivery ritual will become shortened anyway as the delivery to hand becomes self-reinforcing. The shaping works best in the early stages of the delivery to hand ritual teaching. Labradors take to this easily and will go through the whole shaping period in a few days, shorthairs and wirehairs will take a bit longer for refining the delivery. What I have suggested is that the dog's performance determines the extent of the delivery ceremony that you use to reward the dog's return to hand. If dog really screws up you can use a harsh 'sit' and go to the dog and just take the dummy with a curt 'out' command. Remember that a soothing extended word like 'give' prompts a gentle release of the game, a curt 'out' command causes a quicker release by the dog. Cj > > > >

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08/30/2008 1:23 PM
> What I have suggested is that the dog's performance determines the > extent of the delivery ceremony that you use to reward the dog's return > to hand. If dog really screws up you can use a harsh 'sit' and go to > the dog and just take the dummy with a curt 'out' command. What happens if the dog won't sit and runs off just as you get to it! Otherwise this seems an excellent way of shaping the retrieve which I will practice. We had group training today, first cold game, and he was better. Sonia

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