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Subject: [working-gundog] and the breeders' dilemma
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08/29/2008 9:28 AM
Maud & Torsti wrote: > To some degree we have a similar problem over here. People compare > their dogs to other dogs they have seen. If you never have seen the > crème de la crème, the best of the best, you do not know where you are > with your dog/-s. You may even have one that belongs among the best > and you do not know about it. This is common with those who hunts only > and do not give a damn about the trials. You don't have to trial your > dog but you could go to see a trial before you breed from your own > dog. It doesn't hurt but would broaden your vision. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > I've always said the same thing about wives. Why should you be satisfied with the one you have unless you can go out and try a few different ones? It's rare here in the eastern U.S. but I hear that out in California they have a lot of wife swapping trials. Cj ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > There is a problem here since not all trials hold the same class. The first spaniel trial I ever saw was a special one for the so called dual purpose (=neither purpose, not good show dogs and not good working dogs)spaniels. No working spaniel with some self-respect would have started there. To my luck I had in advance seen enough of true working spaniel videos to understand that this was not the "real" thing so I did not turn my back to the working spaniel world after seeing the first trial. > > However, there are folks with rather mediocre dogs that truly, really believe they are good. The reason is simply that they have never seen anything better, or even worse - anything else for that matter. Unless they breed from their "super star" there is nothing wrong with that. If they admire their dog then they are happy and hence the dog is most likely happy also and that's what it is all about. Problem starts when they decide to take a litter so that they can have a progeny from their loved one. The litter will be 9 puppies large and they sell 8 of them and spread the un-trialled genes around. It is easy to calculate the impact those dogs will have at least on a breed that is small in population, regionally or nationally. My first dog, the Klenier Munsterlander was one of that kind. > > Torsti > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It might be a good idea to hold dual purpose wife trials since not all wives are in the same class. I've seen wives that were neither good in show or work and thought that some people could do better. I haven't seen any true working wives videos but they have show class ones on the television all the time (I suspect that they're not the real things either). I suppose that a lot of people have mediocre wives (or husbands) because they haven't seen anything better. Cj
08/29/2008 12:00 PM
>>>It might be a good idea to hold dual purpose wife trials since not all
wives are in the same class. I've seen wives that were neither good in
show or work and thought that some people could do better. I haven't
seen any true working wives videos but they have show class ones on the
television all the time (I suspect that they're not the real things
either). I suppose that a lot of people have mediocre wives (or
husbands) because they haven't seen anything better.
The problem with men is that they can't resist using anything that has even a distance resemblance to a female as a sexual partner. Without any sexual discipline whatsoever we are never able to selectively breed high class, dual purpose wives. We simply get what we deserve.
Torsti (writing from a place where men are men and sheep are nervous) BTW it is a good thing Maud is not at home now....
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