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cwalt

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08/23/2008 5:40 PM
Fetch is a small part of retrieve training, it's simply the command for the dog to take something in its mouth and hold it firmly until commanded to release it with the 'give' command. Treat the 'fetch' as meaning this, and only this, when starting the yard training. When dog is holding the training buck or dummy grasp it firmly and without saying anything try to take the dummy from the dog, if the dog releases it correct with a sharp 'NO' followed by reinsertion of the dummy and another 'fetch' command. The dog must learn to hold it until it receives the release command. This pays big dividends later on in retrieve training when dog is tempted to drop the dummy at your feet. Note, dropping the dummy in front of you is another fixed action pattern, it is the dog's solicitation to play. Part of the reason for 'fetch' is simply to override this FAP. Any time after giving the 'fetch' command you should be able to grasp the dummy and pull on it or twist it and the dog will not release the dummy until it hears the 'give' or 'out' command. You can 100% train the 'fetch' command in your living room while sitting on the couch. Cj

mcotton

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08/23/2008 7:45 PM
Yes, yes. Expound on that please ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cj" To: Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: [working-gundog] training fetch > Fetch is a small part of retrieve training, it's simply the command for > the dog to take something in its mouth and hold it firmly until > commanded to release it with the 'give' command. Treat the 'fetch' as > meaning this, and only this, when starting the yard training. When dog > is holding the training buck or dummy grasp it firmly and without saying > anything try to take the dummy from the dog, if the dog releases it > correct with a sharp 'NO' > followed by reinsertion of the dummy and another 'fetch' command. The > dog must learn to hold it until it receives the release command. This > pays big dividends later on in retrieve training when dog is tempted to > drop the dummy at your feet. Note, dropping the dummy in front of you > is another fixed action pattern, it is the dog's solicitation to play. > Part of the reason for 'fetch' is simply to override this FAP. Any time > after giving the 'fetch' command you should be able to grasp the dummy > and pull on it or twist it and the dog will not release the dummy until > it hears the 'give' or 'out' command. You can 100% train the 'fetch' > command in your living room while sitting on the couch. > Cj

soniaskinner User is Offline

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08/24/2008 1:09 PM
> Part of the reason for 'fetch' is simply to override this FAP. Any time > after giving the 'fetch' command you should be able to grasp the dummy > and pull on it or twist it and the dog will not release the dummy until > it hears the 'give' or 'out' command. You can 100% train the 'fetch' > command in your living room while sitting on the couch. > Cj Have done that for ages! When is it going to transfer outside when I am in a class and in control (I hope) of my body language? Sonia

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