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08/21/2008 12:36 AM
I notice the delivery to hand is a bit of a problem at our tests. Can you expound on this and ideas to correct so I can use it to help them along please Cj. Ta Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cj" To: Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: [working-gundog] dog training (wolf intelligence) > Jere Murray wrote: >> Along this line may I suggest it is possible, with a suitably bred and >> motivated >> dog, to arrange training for some behaviors, including the "whoa," in >> such a manner >> that they become self-reinforcing in the everyday experience of the dog >> and >> therefore should not fade. But this would be another topic. >> >> Jere >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > I would suggest that a trained command does not become self-reinforcing > unless the dog is aware of the handler's body language. The > 'self-reinforcement' for many behaviors is unconsciously provided by the > handler and isn't originally part of the dog's emotional state. Many dog > trainers never realize this and speak extensively about self-reinforcement > that actually doesn't happen. I find that reinforcement of trained > command responses is significantly affected by the handler's body > language. This applies whether the response is appropriate or > inappropriate, the handler releases This phenomenon seems to escape many > behavior analysts (psychologists) who get inconsistent, or simply > incorrect, information from their animal behavior experiments. > > For example most cases of breaking point or creeping on point are released > by the handler's body language. This means that I can remedially train > the dog to eliminate creeping or breaking without having any effect on the > dog's behavior with the handler. In this case it is necessary to retrain > both handler and dog to cure the problem. For stubborn people who refuse > to alter their mental attitude, and therefore their body language, it is > almost impossible to cure trained behavior problems. I would also suggest > that versatile dog delivery to hand problems in the retrieve are largely > associated with the handler's body language. The reason that I can make > this assertion is that in experiments retrieve delivery problems always > start _after_ the dog has recognized the handler either by facial features > or body language. Cj >

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