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08/11/2008 5:59 AM  
Somewhat related to intellect? Before dog was 2 years old he had passed hunt tests on chukars and handled them quite well. This dog worked many pigeons before it was 6 months old. When dog was less than 3 years old - ran a hunt test on chukars. Dog trapped a chukar - judge directed chukar to be thrown and shot for a retrieve. On the way to the retrieve the dog flushed another chukar which flushed and was shot - the dog hunted for about 3 minutes and did not find either bird - the judge directed me to pick up my dog (I was dq'ed) - The next day in the same test on chukar's again the dog now failed to find any birds and I was again dq'ed. I headed for home, but several miles down the road - remembered I'd left a lead at the hunt test site - turned around and returned to pick it up. On my way to pick up the lead the marshall asked me what happened - The marshall then told the judges that I could not be dismissed for the dog not finding a bird. I ran him again and he managed to get a couple of flushes and retrieves - but I ran him very tight to insure he would bump the birds if nothing else. Well now fast forward 4 years and I go back to the same place, same field to run him on chukars again. . In the mean time dog has flushed literally thousands of wild pheasants. Dog had absolutely no interest in chuckars - dq'ed again. I have a few wood pigeons that are very similar in size to chukars feeding in the back yard under bird feeders - dog has no interest in them as they flush out from under the bird feeders. I did give him a pigeon about 3 years ago he went after it with great enthusiasm. It was the result of helping train another dog and the only pigeon the dog has received since it was six months old.
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08/11/2008 1:36 PM  
Dogs have to learn which critters constitute prey and which are of no interest. They learn this from an adult or from their human mentor. BUT, What happened to the dog when he trapped that chukar? I've heard of other dogs of a different breed that came to ignore chukar (specifically) similarly. Could this apparent blinking of pen raised chukars be the result of that single event which carried some strong negative to the dog which you failed to see? Bring him west in a couple of years and try him on wild chukars - maybe he'll smell them differently. Jere > Before dog was 2 years old he had passed hunt tests on chukars and handled > them quite well. This dog worked many pigeons before it was 6 months old. > > When dog was less than 3 years old - ran a hunt test on chukars. > Dog trapped a chukar - judge directed chukar to be thrown and > shot for a retrieve. On the way to the retrieve the dog flushed another > chukar which flushed and was shot - the dog hunted for about 3 minutes and > did not find either bird - the judge directed me to pick up my dog (I was > dq'ed) - The next day in the same test on chukar's again the dog now failed > to find any birds and I was again dq'ed. I headed for home, but several > miles down the road - remembered I'd left a lead at the hunt test site - > turned around and returned to pick it up. On my way to pick up the lead the > marshall asked me what happened - The marshall then told the judges that I > could not be dismissed for the dog not finding a bird. I ran him again and > he managed to get a couple of flushes and retrieves - but I ran him very > tight to insure he would bump the birds if nothing else. > > Well now fast forward 4 years and I go back to the same place, same field to > run him on chukars again. . > In the mean time dog has flushed literally thousands of wild pheasants. > > Dog had absolutely no interest in chuckars - dq'ed again. > > I have a few wood pigeons that are very similar in size to chukars feeding > in the back yard under bird feeders - dog has no interest in them as they > flush out from under the bird feeders. > > I did give him a pigeon about 3 years ago he went after it with great > enthusiasm. It was the result of helping train another dog and the only > pigeon the dog has received since it was six months old. > > > > > >
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08/21/2008 3:14 PM  
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