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07/28/2008 7:08 AM  
Versatile dogs track a lot, they cannot help it since it is the nature of canines. How many times in a day's hunting has your dog checked in with you by coming up behind you? That isn't accidental, the dog knows that a circle downwind will bring it to the hunters track and since humans have such a powerful body odor almost any dog can track you at a dead run. The truth about tracking for versatile dogs is that every dog can track with phenomenal accuracy and speed... the only question is will the dog track for you. The totality of track training is your ability to show the dog what you want tracked and that you approve of it. The dog has no trouble discerning the scent trace of a single bird through a welter of hundreds of other scents. The trained tracking dog will readily demonstrate that it can distinguish individual birds and find them under unusually difficult conditions. Years ago a group of gun dog fanciers decided to design a fresh scent tracking test that would separate the dogs over an array of test scores. After devising and experimenting with increasingly difficult scent trace problems we decided that it was not possible to challenge a versatile dog's ability to track, all dogs that had learned to track for humans could readily pass any test we could create. During this process we learned that there were no limits imposed by "scenting conditions", a trained dog can track fresh scent (defined as under four hours old for most game) under any weather conditions. We have a field where we often test tracking that is under high tension power lines. On humid days you can readily discern the odor of ozone and if it's misty you can hear the power lines leaking a charge. We've never had a problem with tracking there under any weather conditions including a blinding downpour. The scenting conditions excuse isn't appropriate in explaining why a dog didn't track, we can readily demonstrate that it's conventional wisdom with no basis in fact. I await the acrid responses. {:-) Cj
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07/28/2008 1:09 PM  
>>>The truth about tracking for versatile dogs is that every dog
can track with phenomenal accuracy and speed... the only question is
will the dog track for you.   The totality of track training is your
ability to show the dog what you want tracked and that you approve of
it........ I await the acrid responses.  {:-)
Cj>>>
 
Not too acrid from here :-))) Today Briz followed your proposal precisely!
 
As I mentioned in an earlier message it was time to make a tracker out of Briz, now that Foxy is not with us any more. She is 8 years old now and was introduced to blood tracks ages ago but has not been used as a tracker since then. So I believe it was last Friday or Saturday that it struck me that we must check if she remembers anything about it. With "it" I mean if she tracks what we want her to track.
 
 The first test track on Saturday showed that she had no idea of what we wanted her to do, but guided to the end of the track she liked the sausage I had placed there as a reward. I thought, from her rather wishy-washy performance, that she will have eaten a lot of sausages before we are pleased with her tracking..........
 
On Sunday we made the second blood track. Now she held her head low at least part of the track and did not care too much about the reward at the end of the track. However when offered from hand she ate it.
 
Today we made the third track and now the coin had fallen down. She worked perfectly well and enjoyed the work and at the end of the track she did not care at all about the black pudding I had placed there. She did not even take it from hand but tried to find a  continuation to the track. Apparently she liked to work for us and  our praise was reward enough for her. When it comes to food she is not much of a lab or spaniel anyway.
 
Now we know that she will track for us and the following training tracks will be to give her a little more experience in all kinds of terrain and weather. The best thing would be a roe-deer that runs a couple of hundred meters before it drops dead. After one of those they will not hesitate anymore, if they ever did so.
 
The recent ammo I have for the 243W, I loaded last summer with the American Nosler Ballistic Tip 95grain bullet. Last autumn I killed 5 - 6 roe-deer with the ammo and none of them moved a single inch after being hit. Not a good bullet if you want to train a dog to track :-))) However with the physical condition I had last autumn, right after the by-pass operation, it was perfect!!! 
 
Well, there are alternatives of course.
 
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel
"Ask not what your dog can do for you.
Ask what you can do for your dog."
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