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06/06/2008 10:00 AM  
....Foxy! She found and flushed her last woodcock yesterday morning. Later that day she was investigated at the animal hospital in Uppsala where she was operated for a very unusual tumour some 3 - 4 years ago. The tumour had slowly come back, we noticed it some time around new year, and had with sadness watch the development. At the hospital they thought that it is the proper time to put her away now that the tumour does not cause any significant pain to her yet. She came to be 13 years and 10 months old. The last time she showed the world her enourmous ability was last winter on the Gotland island. Maud had went there to trial Briz and afterwards Foxy was given a run on some large fields. She put up a veeery wide bare mountain search and as she already was deaf she was impossible to handle. Military stragedy was used to finally catch her, since she did not find any birds so she could have been leashed on point. 3 or 4 persons pushed her into a corner of the field and caught her there. Everybody admired this 13 years old warriors search and stamina. Everybody also bet that she would be very stiff next morning, propably Maud would have to carry her out to have a pee. They were wrong. Next morning Foxy showed no pain or stiffness but was ready to clear the next field! That is how she is remembered by those who saw her at some stage of her life, she was always the same. Never ever give up, the bird might be just beyound the next mountain ridge!
 
I will remember her mostly for her mentality and gentleness. Never during her lifetime did she start a fight but stopped many would be fights just by her self confidence and security in social situationes.  She was a lesson in good mentality and we will continue to refer to her in our obedience classes.
 
Later I will write more about her and the late Springer at Torsti's corner, and the great influence they had on our life's. Those two dogs showed us a new world, a world we had not known about before them, and they opened doors for us that otherwise would have stayed closed for us. May they rest in peace!
 
Torsti
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06/06/2008 10:27 AM  
Sorry for your loss Torsti. 

Foxy was a good dog. 


On 6-Jun-08, at 10:34 AM, Maud & Torsti wrote:

....Foxy! She found and flushed her last woodcock yesterday morning. Later that day she was investigated at the animal hospital in Uppsala where she was operated for a very unusual tumour some 3 - 4 years ago. The tumour had slowly come back, we noticed it some time around new year, and had with sadness watch the development. At the hospital they thought that it is the proper time to put her away now that the tumour does not cause any significant pain to her yet. She came to be 13 years and 10 months old. The last time she showed the world her enourmous ability was last winter on the Gotland island. Maud had went there to trial Briz and afterwards Foxy was given a run on some large fields. She put up a veeery wide bare mountain search and as she already was deaf she was impossible to handle. Military stragedy was used to finally catch her, since she did not find any birds so she could have been leashed on point. 3 or 4 persons pushed her into a corner of the field and caught her there. Everybody admired this 13 years old warriors search and stamina. Everybody also bet that she would be very stiff next morning, propably Maud would have to carry her out to have a pee. They were wrong. Next morning Foxy showed no pain or stiffness but was ready to clear the next field! That is how she is remembered by those who saw her at some stage of her life, she was always the same. Never ever give up, the bird might be just beyound the next mountain ridge!
 
I will remember her mostly for her mentality and gentleness. Never during her lifetime did she start a fight but stopped many would be fights just by her self confidence and security in social situationes.  She was a lesson in good mentality and we will continue to refer to her in our obedience classes.
 
Later I will write more about her and the late Springer at Torsti's corner, and the great influence they had on our life's. Those two dogs showed us a new world, a world we had not known about before them, and they opened doors for us that otherwise would have stayed closed for us. May they rest in peace!
 
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel
"Ask not what your dog can do for you.
Ask what you can do for your dog."
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06/06/2008 10:27 AM  
Torsti and Maude, My condolences to your and Maude on this loss. We’ve been exchanging e-mails since she was a pup. I know how much you both loved this dog not only as a hunter but being part of the family. That loss is heartfelt by everyone who has ever enjoyed time afield with their dog. They were always more than a pet or friend. They are an integral part of the very fabric of life. Think of all those good times and she will never be far from you. ted
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06/06/2008 11:53 AM  
I'm sorry for your loss. Cj
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06/06/2008 12:09 PM  
torsti- i have a picture of you and foxy in silhouette against an arctic snow sunrise/set. if i were a good marketeer, i would lie and tell people that it was me and a PL, but i am honest and tell them it is you and give them your website. may she rest in peace. you will play with her in the next world. stu Stu, Dawn & Hunter West Founder, Pointing Labradors "Letting Labs Point the Way!" Alma Bottom Pointing Labradors N4758 350th Street, Elmwood, WI 54740 (715) 639-3900 h&w (715)684-9892 cell StuWest@AlmaBottom.com www.AlmaBottom.com Maud & Torsti wrote: > ....Foxy! She found and flushed her last woodcock yesterday morning. > Later that day she was investigated at the animal hospital in Uppsala > where she was operated for a very unusual tumour some 3 - 4 years ago. > The tumour had slowly come back, we noticed it some time around new > year, and had with sadness watch the development. At the hospital they > thought that it is the proper time to put her away now that the tumour > does not cause any significant pain to her yet. She came to be 13 > years and 10 months old. The last time she showed the world her > enourmous ability was last winter on the Gotland island. Maud had went > there to trial Briz and afterwards Foxy was given a run on some large > fields. She put up a veeery wide bare mountain search and as she > already was deaf she was impossible to handle. Military stragedy was > used to finally catch her, since she did not find any birds so she > could have been leashed on point. 3 or 4 persons pushed her into a > corner of the field and caught her there. Everybody admired this 13 > years old warriors search and stamina. Everybody also bet that she > would be very stiff next morning, propably Maud would have to carry > her out to have a pee. They were wrong. Next morning Foxy showed no > pain or stiffness but was ready to clear the next field! That is how > she is remembered by those who saw her at some stage of her life, she > was always the same. Never ever give up, the bird might be > just beyound the next mountain ridge! > > I will remember her mostly for her mentality and gentleness. Never > during her lifetime did she start a fight but stopped many would be > fights just by her self confidence and security in social > situationes. She was a lesson in good mentality and we will > continue to refer to her in our obedience classes. > > Later I will write more about her and the late Springer at Torsti's > corner, and the great influence they had on our life's. Those two dogs > showed us a new world, a world we had not known about before them, and > they opened doors for us that otherwise would have stayed closed for > us. May they rest in peace! > > Torsti > Borta Med Vindens Kennel > "Ask not what your dog can do for you. > Ask what you can do for your dog." > www.rospigan.net > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1484 - Release Date: 6/4/2008 4:40 PM >
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06/06/2008 12:55 PM  
Re: [working-gundog] We remember...

I was so sad to read of Foxy’s death, I know she was very close to you and Maud.  So many people in the world knew her through your photographs and your words and her hunting exploits have been much admired.  What a fine dog she was.

With sympathy  Sonia



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06/06/2008 1:01 PM  
I feel Your Pain Torsti! Been there, Ron
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06/06/2008 1:53 PM  

Torsti & Maud

 

So sorry to hear of your loss – “memories live forever”

 

Rose

 

 

 

 

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06/06/2008 2:31 PM  

 

 


Tortsi Maude I am very sorry to hear of your loss Foxy sounded such a special dog & I loved reading your stories of her escapades

No matter how many dogs we have it never makes it easier when we loose one

Margarita

 

Torsti & Maud

 

So sorry to hear of your loss – “memories live forever”

 

Rose

 

 

 

 

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06/06/2008 2:45 PM  
So sorry to hear of your much loved girls passing.  Try not to be too sad and think of all the enjoyment she gave you, and the laughs you had from her.
 
Margaret
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 3:34 AM
Subject: [working-gundog] We remember...

....Foxy! She found and flushed her last woodcock yesterday morning. Later that day she was investigated at the animal hospital in Uppsala where she was operated for a very unusual tumour some 3 - 4 years ago. The tumour had slowly come back, we noticed it some time around new year, and had with sadness watch the development. At the hospital they thought that it is the proper time to put her away now that the tumour does not cause any significant pain to her yet. She came to be 13 years and 10 months old. The last time she showed the world her enourmous ability was last winter on the Gotland island. Maud had went there to trial Briz and afterwards Foxy was given a run on some large fields. She put up a veeery wide bare mountain search and as she already was deaf she was impossible to handle. Military stragedy was used to finally catch her, since she did not find any birds so she could have been leashed on point. 3 or 4 persons pushed her into a corner of the field and caught her there. Everybody admired this 13 years old warriors search and stamina. Everybody also bet that she would be very stiff next morning, propably Maud would have to carry her out to have a pee. They were wrong. Next morning Foxy showed no pain or stiffness but was ready to clear the next field! That is how she is remembered by those who saw her at some stage of her life, she was always the same. Never ever give up, the bird might be just beyound the next mountain ridge!
 
I will remember her mostly for her mentality and gentleness. Never during her lifetime did she start a fight but stopped many would be fights just by her self confidence and security in social situationes.  She was a lesson in good mentality and we will continue to refer to her in our obedience classes.
 
Later I will write more about her and the late Springer at Torsti's corner, and the great influence they had on our life's. Those two dogs showed us a new world, a world we had not known about before them, and they opened doors for us that otherwise would have stayed closed for us. May they rest in peace!
 
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel
"Ask not what your dog can do for you.
Ask what you can do for your dog."
www.rospigan.net
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06/06/2008 5:47 PM  
I'm sorry to hear of your loss, Torsti. I've enjoyed your many stories of Foxy over the years and have often seen a bit of my own dogs in the stories you've used to describe her. -- Steven Hartman pinefall@gmail.com
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06/07/2008 10:43 AM  
>>>I feel Your Pain Torsti! Been there,

Ron>><
 
Thank you folks for all your nice words! Reading them makes me to create a short-circuit in the key-bord due the salty tears falling on it :-)))
 
There is, at least for me, a particular point in Ron's comment: One of the few times I can really honestly and with 100% certainty say that I sympathize with someone else, even a totally strange person, is when I hear that they have lost their dog!
 
Everything must come to an end and sorrow is only one result of what had to happen. There is a little happines also in it. Foxy was after all very old and a bit senile. She had also gone very soft and wanted to be with me all the time. My conclusion was that she felt that she was not in her former powers anymore and hence might have felt anxious from time to time. It was a pain for me to go to work and leave her for a week and when I came back she was so happy so she did not know how to express it. Even if she was fit for her age she had become old in her body and it showed. Despite of the tumour that came back I am happy that she lived to a very mature age for a dog. Our first dog was put away at 4 years of age due to bad mentality and the second one, Springer, at 10 years for medical reasons. I was a bit disappointed then because I wanted to see a dog to age and see how they change in mentaltiy and perhaps personality. I also thought that putting them away due to a mature age would be, if not easier at least more "justified" and "fair" than having to put them down due to some nasty disease.
So even if the tumour did catch up with Foxy's age it would have been about the right time to put her away due to age only. Without the tumour she might have lived another year but what kind of life would that have been???
 
All in all I am in a strange way happy for Foxy now. She had a good life with us, we gave her all we could afford and then some more. We had the courage to spare her from the last months or year of pain and misery but to end her career in a dignified way. They gave her the last favour at the animal hospital in very professional manner that really paid tribute to a true Dame!
 
Now Foxy's daughter Briz must get used to being the top gun in the house. I guess it takes a while for her to understand her new role, we will see. She is a different kettle of fish compared to Foxy and even if we love her very much I doubt we will never give her the title Dame :-))
 
In the distant future, sometimes after next new year, there is a still unborn puppy waiting for us very far north in Sweden. Dogs from this ES line are as easy to train as spaniels and being a  self-tormentor I am not sure that I like it but it was Maud's decision. Maybe I could compensate for the handicap by finding a spaniel that is difficult to train :-))
 
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel
"Ask not what your dog can do for you.
Ask what you can do for your dog."
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06/07/2008 1:00 PM  
I don't mean to take away from Mause & Torsti's saddneww. I like I said have been there to many times and that is one reason I have decided to start selling my dogs intheir prime, as its more fun to sell them than to burry them. But what I have noticed is how much better these dogs get as soon as they are gone. One day yu might be out there working fido and things don't go like planned and you are screaming, hollering and threating fido because he won't listen and then theres an accident and fido's gone and every false point, slipped whistle, every refusal, everything is forgotedn to never be remembered again cause Fido is all at oned PERFECT. Sorry Torsti!!!!
 
Ron
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [working-gundog] We remember...

>>>I feel Your Pain Torsti! Been there,

Ron>><
 
Thank you folks for all your nice words! Reading them makes me to create a short-circuit in the key-bord due the salty tears falling on it :-)))
 
There is, at least for me, a particular point in Ron's comment: One of the few times I can really honestly and with 100% certainty say that I sympathize with someone else, even a totally strange person, is when I hear that they have lost their dog!
 
Everything must come to an end and sorrow is only one result of what had to happen. There is a little happines also in it. Foxy was after all very old and a bit senile. She had also gone very soft and wanted to be with me all the time. My conclusion was that she felt that she was not in her former powers anymore and hence might have felt anxious from time to time. It was a pain for me to go to work and leave her for a week and when I came back she was so happy so she did not know how to express it. Even if she was fit for her age she had become old in her body and it showed. Despite of the tumour that came back I am happy that she lived to a very mature age for a dog. Our first dog was put away at 4 years of age due to bad mentality and the second one, Springer, at 10 years for medical reasons. I was a bit disappointed then because I wanted to see a dog to age and see how they change in mentaltiy and perhaps personality. I also thought that putting them away due to a mature age would be, if not easier at least more "justified" and "fair" than having to put them down due to some nasty disease.
So even if the tumour did catch up with Foxy's age it would have been about the right time to put her away due to age only. Without the tumour she might have lived another year but what kind of life would that have been???
 
All in all I am in a strange way happy for Foxy now. She had a good life with us, we gave her all we could afford and then some more. We had the courage to spare her from the last months or year of pain and misery but to end her career in a dignified way. They gave her the last favour at the animal hospital in very professional manner that really paid tribute to a true Dame!
 
Now Foxy's daughter Briz must get used to being the top gun in the house. I guess it takes a while for her to understand her new role, we will see. She is a different kettle of fish compared to Foxy and even if we love her very much I doubt we will never give her the title Dame :-))
 
In the distant future, sometimes after next new year, there is a still unborn puppy waiting for us very far north in Sweden. Dogs from this ES line are as easy to train as spaniels and being a  self-tormentor I am not sure that I like it but it was Maud's decision. Maybe I could compensate for the handicap by finding a spaniel that is difficult to train :-))
 
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel
"Ask not what your dog can do for you.
Ask what you can do for your dog."
www.rospigan.net
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06/07/2008 1:19 PM  
>>I don't mean to take away from Mause & Torsti's saddneww. I like I said have been there to many times and that is one reason I have decided to start selling my dogs intheir prime, as its more fun to sell them than to burry them. But what I have noticed is how much better these dogs get as soon as they are gone. One day yu might be out there working fido and things don't go like planned and you are screaming, hollering and threating fido because he won't listen and then theres an accident and fido's gone and every false point, slipped whistle, every refusal, everything is forgotedn to never be remembered again cause Fido is all at oned PERFECT. Sorry Torsti!!!!
 
Ron>>
 
I understand what you mean and I am not saying that Foxy was perfect. Had she been I would not had to have to ask for advice on this list so many times :-))
 
In fact some of Foxy imperfectiones made her different. like this:
 
 Positiive: Increadible stamina. Negative: Very difficult to handle.
 
Positive: Urgeing. Negative: Irritating
 
Positive: Courageous. Negative: Causing heart attacks.
 
...and so on.
 
"No matter how good they look at first, there are flaws in all of them. On a scale from one to ten..... there ain't no ten". (Bobby Bare)
 
Torsti 
 
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Ask what you can do for your dog."
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