|
| Author |
Messages |
|
rospigan
 MH Posts:372

 |
| 03/03/2008 4:25 AM |
|
|
Did you find
the video from Maud's instructions? You have to scroll down a bit on the page to
see the different titles. Then click on the picture of a setter on snow. It is
only 57 seconds long so it should not take long to load with a modem. The
handler is Norwegian and he uses basically tree words to guide the dog. He
calms it down with the word "rolig" when it is trying to nail the restless
birds. At flush he will shout "deck", a word used by Norwegians when they want
to halt the dog. The dog is pretty steady anyway and would not have chased much
I believe. Then he also when needed gives the dog permission to flush with an
sharp, excited "jaaa!". Yes, got get them, in English. The grouse are difficult
to hunt in snow and even if you may get a dinner or two you will never shoot any
quantities in the winter. Some folks shoot them at a distance with a .22 rifle
and that method can give more meat on the table.
There are
different video's from crow shooting to wild boar and moose hunting with
our dogs. Anyone can upload a hunting video there as long as it is kept around 2
minutes of length.
This is the
Swedish Hunter's Associations website and it is full of all kinds of more or
less useful stuff.
Now to
motionless pictures. Maud's adventure to the mountains a little more than a week
ago did not produce any meat due to extremely bad weather with snow storms and
such. However the last day they had sunshine and shooting with the camera was
possible. A lot of new snow had fallen and made life difficult for both dogs and
handlers. Still it was the new snow that made it possible for Maud to take a lot
of nice photos and in fact some of them will knock your head of! You will find
them at our website under "Last Updates".
I believe it
should be "Latest updates" to be correct English?
Anyway Maud
started to study at the high school again. It is possible now that we have got
broadband internet. Everything is done from home, at least with Maud's subject,
namely Photo Editing with Adobe Photoshop. One of the reasons why she started it
is that she now officially is a student. That means that she was hence able to
buy the Adobe Creative Suite 3 Premium with about 75% discount, for less
than 1000 dollars. She already had the CS2 but the step up to CS3 would have
been huge should she have paid full price.
"Adobe"! We
have had Adobe PS since they year 2002 or something. I have never thought much
about the name "Adobe", it was just a silly company name among others. Then,
some weeks ago I found an old book that I bought somewhere many decades ago. It
was Elmer Keith's "Hell, I was there!". I started to read the book again. Elmer
Keith, one of Americas most known hunters, riflemen and pistolero's, was
born more than a 100 years ago. To my great surprise I found that he used the
word "adobe"! I thought "How the bloo..he.. can a man born something like 1890
use the super modern word adobe???"
When I read
English I usually do not look up in a lexicon every new word I find, only
if I cant figure out the rough meaning of it by the context. Now I had to see
what "adobe" means. It means "sun-dried bricks, construction made of sun-dried
bricks". The word "adobe", that I though was a modern invention, most likely
from Silicon Walley, is in fact almost as old as man himself! Well, you learn
something new every time you are away from home - a friend of mine use to
say.
Have you ever
thought why I sit here behind the computer telling lies about dogs and why Maud
has become such a good dog photographer and is studying photo editing? Have you
ever pondered about the flow of life and how it is guided into different
directions by happenings that when they happen only seems to have minor
importance?
Well, the main
reason why me and Maud do what we do today was a law that came into effect 1990
I believe. It says that a dog trained to find wounded game must be accessible
within 2 hours for the deer hunter, should it be needed. Without that law we
would most likely never have got a dog and we would never have found out how
much joy they can bring to your home!
That's life
folks!
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel "Ask not what your dog can do for you. Ask
what you can do for your dog." www.rospigan.net
|
|
|
|
|
soniaskinner
 MH Posts:98

 |
| 03/03/2008 8:05 AM |
|
Re: [working-gundog] Birddog video
Hi Torsti,
I managed to find the video of the working setter from Maud’s instructions
Maud’s photographs are excellent. My husband went to night school as well and bought Photoshop CS1 with 75% also, but he says the problem is you cannot upgrade it. Mike says Adobe Lightroom is very good, allows you to organising and processing RAW photographs effectively.
We have just had two minutes of sleet, but otherwise winter has been warm; the greening of the hedgerows has begun, I looked back in my diary and in 1984 this happened two months later!
Sonia
|
|
|
|
|
craig
 JH Posts:27

 |
| 03/03/2008 8:11 AM |
|
Mike says Adobe Lightroom is very good, allows you to organising and processing RAW photographs effectively.
Three greatest inventions of all time:
1. Fire 2. The Wheel 3. Adobe Lightroom
|
|
|
|
|
jmurr
 MH Posts:158

 |
| 03/03/2008 12:32 PM |
|
| Yes, I found it. And "Thanks" to Maud and to you for "translation."
I've noticed the "grouse" are difficult in the snow too. They begin to get
"difficult" up North where I hunt them in the fall when they begin to gather into
big flocks (sharptailed grouse do this too). Though they do this, and reportedly
maintain large flocks through the winter in some parts of this state, I have never
seen more than five at a time here. I guess I need to "get out" - "away from home"
- more to learn something new.
It is very interesting that it took a stupid Law to get someone interested in dogs.
Maybe we need to rethink our thoughts on "government?"
Speaking of books, I am indebted to Stu West for referring me to the new book
"Merle's Door" by Ted Kerasote which I have almost finished. It is about a dog and
dogs, dogs' learning, dogs' abilities, dog medicine, ... . It is well researched
and he includes MANY references to scientific literature and more serious works on
dogs. He even quotes J. B. Steen. Catching up on the references will take me a
long while. I believe he has a valuable mesage for all of us who work with dogs.
I have only found a few things I am sure are "wrong"
Jere
>>>>Do you know this site:
> http://www.jagareforbundet.se/jagarfilmforum/
>
> There is supposed to be a video of a setter working ptarmigan there
> but I haven't found it. My Swedish is nil!
>
> Jere>>>
>
> Did you find the video from Maud's instructions? You have to scroll down a bit on
> the page to see the different titles.
|
|
|
|
|
robclayau
 JH Posts:36

 |
| 03/03/2008 12:42 PM |
|
| I enjoy Kerasote's writing a lot. I'd recommend his book "Bloodties -
Nature, Culture and the Hunt" to anybody that hunts.
Rob
Jere Murray wrote:
> Speaking of books, I am indebted to Stu West for referring me to the new book
> "Merle's Door" by Ted Kerasote which I have almost finished. It is about a dog and
> dogs, dogs' learning, dogs' abilities, dog medicine, ... . It is well researched
> and he includes MANY references to scientific literature and more serious works on
> dogs. He even quotes J. B. Steen. Catching up on the references will take me a
> long while. I believe he has a valuable mesage for all of us who work with dogs.
> I have only found a few things I am sure are "wrong"
>
> Jere
>
>
>
|
|
|
|
|
robclayau
 JH Posts:36

 |
| 03/03/2008 12:59 PM |
|
Interesting video. As you say the grouse look like challenging birds to
hunt. IMO the handler talks to the dog way too much, I tend to let the
dog work out birds in silence, keeping commands to a minimum. Generally
it's only if the dog forgets its manners, say forgetting to sit to
flush, that I'll use a command. My rule of thumb is that when the bird
is on the ground (and hence unseen by me) , the dog is in charge, when
it's in the air the dog sits and I'm in charge.
"Latest Updates" is the correct term.
Summer is drawing to a close here, we are currently enjoying cooler
lengthening nights, the joy of Autumn/Winter afield with the dogs is
just around the corner!!
Cheers,
Rob
Maud & Torsti wrote:
Did
you find the video from Maud's instructions? You have to scroll down a
bit on the page to see the different titles. Then click on the picture
of a setter on snow. It is only 57 seconds long so it should not take
long to load with a modem. The handler is Norwegian and he uses
basically tree words to guide the dog. He calms it down with the word
"rolig" when it is trying to nail the restless birds. At flush he will
shout "deck", a word used by Norwegians when they want to halt the dog.
The dog is pretty steady anyway and would not have chased much I
believe. Then he also when needed gives the dog permission to flush
with an sharp, excited "jaaa!". Yes, got get them, in English. The
grouse are difficult to hunt in snow and even if you may get a dinner
or two you will never shoot any quantities in the winter. Some folks
shoot them at a distance with a .22 rifle and that method can give more
meat on the table.
There
are different video's from crow shooting to wild boar and moose hunting
with our dogs. Anyone can upload a hunting video there as long as it is
kept around 2 minutes of length.
This
is the Swedish Hunter's Associations website and it is full of all
kinds of more or less useful stuff.
Now
to motionless pictures. Maud's adventure to the mountains a little more
than a week ago did not produce any meat due to extremely bad weather
with snow storms and such. However the last day they had sunshine and
shooting with the camera was possible. A lot of new snow had fallen and
made life difficult for both dogs and handlers. Still it was the new
snow that made it possible for Maud to take a lot of nice photos and in
fact some of them will knock your head of! You will find them at our
website under "Last Updates".
I
believe it should be "Latest updates" to be correct English?
Anyway
Maud started to study at the high school again. It is possible now that
we have got broadband internet. Everything is done from home, at least
with Maud's subject, namely Photo Editing with Adobe Photoshop. One of
the reasons why she started it is that she now officially is a student.
That means that she was hence able to buy the Adobe Creative Suite 3
Premium with about 75% discount, for less than 1000 dollars. She
already had the CS2 but the step up to CS3 would have been huge should
she have paid full price.
"Adobe"!
We have had Adobe PS since they year 2002 or something. I have never
thought much about the name "Adobe", it was just a silly company name
among others. Then, some weeks ago I found an old book that I bought
somewhere many decades ago. It was Elmer Keith's "Hell, I was there!".
I started to read the book again. Elmer Keith, one of Americas most
known hunters, riflemen and pistolero's, was born more than a 100 years
ago. To my great surprise I found that he used the word "adobe"! I
thought "How the bloo..he.. can a man born something like 1890 use the
super modern word adobe???"
When
I read English I usually do not look up in a lexicon every new word I
find, only if I cant figure out the rough meaning of it by the context.
Now I had to see what "adobe" means. It means "sun-dried bricks,
construction made of sun-dried bricks". The word "adobe", that I though
was a modern invention, most likely from Silicon Walley, is in fact
almost as old as man himself! Well, you learn something new every time
you are away from home - a friend of mine use to say.
Have
you ever thought why I sit here behind the computer telling lies about
dogs and why Maud has become such a good dog photographer and is
studying photo editing? Have you ever pondered about the flow of life
and how it is guided into different directions by happenings that when
they happen only seems to have minor importance?
Well,
the main reason why me and Maud do what we do today was a law that came
into effect 1990 I believe. It says that a dog trained to find wounded
game must be accessible within 2 hours for the deer hunter, should it
be needed. Without that law we would most likely never have got a dog
and we would never have found out how much joy they can bring to your
home!
That's
life folks!
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel
"Ask not what your dog can do for you.
Ask what you can do for your dog."
www.rospigan.net
|
|
|
|
|
rospigan
 MH Posts:372

 |
| 03/03/2008 1:22 PM |
|
Re: [working-gundog] Birddog video
We have just got a couple of inches of wet snow,
jump of joy ))
>>>My husband went to night school as
well and bought Photoshop CS1 with 75% also, but he says the problem is you
cannot upgrade it. >>>
I believe we upgraded all the way due the
different versions from PS 5.5 to CS2. From CS2 to CS3 it is impossible to
upgrade since the CS3 is basically a new program. The interface looks as it has
done all the time but the software is actually entierly new. The CS3
Premium consist of, as far as I can count, 12 different programs and their total
size is a number of Gigabytes so it is delivered on a DVD - disc. The price
without discount is US$ 3620 in Sweden so you would not nuy it for fun
only.
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel "Ask not what your dog
can do for you. Ask what you can do for your dog." www.rospigan.net
|
|
|
|
|
rospigan
 MH Posts:372

 |
| 03/03/2008 1:22 PM |
|
|
Craig wrote:
>>>Three greatest inventions of all time:
1. Fire
2. The Wheel
3. Adobe Lightroom>>>
I have a story about that too. When we got our first digital camera, the
Nikon D70, Adobe only had a type of a plugg-in to handle the RAW files. Nikons
own software is as always not particularly good. On the net I found something
called "Rawshooter" and downloaded a trial version. I thought it was pretty
amazing to work with so I bought the full Pro version. As I am lazy I installed
the program directly from the website and did not save it on a CD as I should
have done. Maud got tired of working with the dull plug in for Adobe and she
wanted me to install the Rawshooter on her computer also. By that time I had
burned the harddrive that the Rawshooter was installed on but I had the code to
unlock it. So I went to Rawshooters website to download it again. It was not
there anymore to download. Adobe had bought the whole lot! Adobe Lightroom is
built on the former Rawshooter that I liked so much!
It took a while before the Swedish version of Lightroom was released but
finally we were able to buy it. It felt like buying the Rawshooter for the
second time and now the price had gone up a bit too.
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel "Ask not what your dog can do for you. Ask
what you can do for your dog." www.rospigan.net
|
|
|
|
|
rospigan
 MH Posts:372

 |
| 03/03/2008 2:51 PM |
|
|
Yes, he talks but what do we know about why he
talks? The camcorder could be the reason, he wanted to be absolutely sure that
there would be no unintentional flush or chasing on the tape. Or the dog could
in fact be a bit unsteady. Anyway cameras and camcorders make people do strange
things. They must, like dogs, be trained until they forget the camera
before they perform naturally.
Whatever, totally silent handling is rare over
here. Once the grouse turns white they also become particularly tempting and
testing for the dogs. In fact grouse in august and grouse from October, November
and forward behave like two different species.
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel "Ask not what your dog can do for you. Ask
what you can do for your dog." www.rospigan.net
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:41
PM
Subject: Re: [working-gundog] Birddog
video
Interesting video. As you say the grouse look like challenging
birds to hunt. IMO the handler talks to the dog way too much, I tend to let
the dog work out birds in silence, keeping commands to a minimum. Generally
it's only if the dog forgets its manners, say forgetting to sit to flush, that
I'll use a command. My rule of thumb is that when the bird is on the ground
(and hence unseen by me) , the dog is in charge, when it's in the air the dog
sits and I'm in charge.
"Latest Updates" is the correct
term.
Summer is drawing to a close here, we are currently enjoying
cooler lengthening nights, the joy of Autumn/Winter afield with the dogs
is just around the
corner!!
Cheers, Rob
|
|
|
|
|
|
| You are not authorized to post a reply. |
|
|
|
ActiveForums 3.7
|
You must be logged in to use this module.
|
 |
Membership: |
 |
Latest:
CliffBaill |
 |
New Today:
0 |
 |
New Yesterday:
0 |
 |
Overall:
3204 |
 |
People Online: |
 |
Visitors:
104 |
 |
Members:
0 |
 |
Total:
104 |
Online Now:
|
|
|
|
|