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Tracy Novoa Western NY
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While I strive to breed for correct conformation (and I've only bred/co-bred four litters) my sales have been primarily for hunting companions. This is fine as my dogs have proven themselves as good hunting specimens. I am wondering...what sells the "show dog" or are people breeding their own show dogs?
This past weekend I saw a gorgeous litter of now 5 month old puppies in need of ANY form of a good home. They have a "to die for" pedigree, all health clearances on the parents, and have all their vet checks/vaccinations good for a year. The sire and dam are reknown show dogs themselves. Unfortunately, the breeder cannot place these dogs and is trying her hardest to keep them properly socialized and trained. There are several breeders on here who are trying to help but there have been no takers. She's asking a fair price for the quality and probably below what many breedings get.
What gives? Is the market just really that bad right now? Is the market for hunting dogs bigger? Can someone suggest any other avenues to go to help move these puppies out? Any input would be appreciated and can be posted here.
I posted for a friend.
Thanks,
Tracy N.
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Enjoy them every minute you have them!
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LahrGSP
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I sold my last litter with no problems last spring. I get
mostly pet people who want a well bred dog. I wont hold onto pups waiting for a
show home. To me pet homes are better because they dont look for faults and just
love the dog how it is.
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k9sports4gsps
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ok I will bite as I am simply a puppy buyer and pet dog trainer in my spare time. 1) people are constantly hearing rescue or go to shelter.. so that is where they look first - breeders need to educate that pet people should buy from reputable breeders.. not knocking rescue but can't tell you the issues I have to work thru when simply training pet people with their shelter dogs.
2) people have fear of breed dogs being unhealthy (I know not true but it is the impression I get from pet people I work with in training) again need more education
3) I think others want dogs that can do more so look for lines like hunting etc... not sure there is a big "pet" market for GSPs...but I could be wrong. judy s... owned by 2
GSPs.. ..
From: Tracy Novoa To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:07 PM Subject: [gsp-l] Show Puppy Sales
While I strive to breed for correct conformation (and I've only bred/co-bred four litters) my sales have been primarily for hunting companions. This is fine as my dogs have proven themselves as good hunting specimens. I am wondering...what sells the "show dog" or are people breeding their own show dogs?
This past weekend I saw a gorgeous litter of now 5 month old puppies in need of ANY form of a good home. They have a "to die for" pedigree, all health clearances on the parents, and have all their vet checks/vaccinations good for a year. The sire and dam are reknown show dogs themselves. Unfortunately, the breeder cannot place these dogs and is trying her hardest to keep them properly socialized and trained. There are several breeders on here who are trying to help but there have been no takers. She's asking a fair price for the quality and probably below what many breedings get.
What gives? Is the market just really that bad right now? Is the market for hunting dogs bigger? Can someone suggest any other avenues to go to help move these puppies out? Any input would be appreciated and can be posted here.
I posted for a friend.
Thanks,
Tracy N.
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gsp4me
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| 12/20/2011 2:28 PM |
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Hard to say. Timing is everything. Like Julie, I do not hold out for show homes. Pet homes with a great environment are priority. I breed (very infrequently) for a show pup for myself and the rest I just want in happy homes. Living in Florida I always get emails looking for a gsp. Some I would not want as a puppy buyer, but many I would consider a possible home with my very limited screening since I do not have any pups available. I try to help good prospects by emailing them info. on pups when available. Most will not travel very far to get a pup, and almost all of them will not buy sight unseen. They want to pick out their family pet. I truly believe having your own website is a tremendous help in selling pups. I get a lot of traffic on mine, hence the emails. I could have sold at least one litter this year !! Vicki Stormwynd From: gsp-l-request@shorthairs.net [mailto:gsp-l-request@shorthairs.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Novoa Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:07 PM To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net Subject: [gsp-l] Show Puppy Sales While I strive to breed for correct conformation (and I've only bred/co-bred four litters) my sales have been primarily for hunting companions. This is fine as my dogs have proven themselves as good hunting specimens. I am wondering...what sells the "show dog" or are people breeding their own show dogs? This past weekend I saw a gorgeous litter of now 5 month old puppies in need of ANY form of a good home. They have a "to die for" pedigree, all health clearances on the parents, and have all their vet checks/vaccinations good for a year. The sire and dam are reknown show dogs themselves. Unfortunately, the breeder cannot place these dogs and is trying her hardest to keep them properly socialized and trained. There are several breeders on here who are trying to help but there have been no takers. She's asking a fair price for the quality and probably below what many breedings get. What gives? Is the market just really that bad right now? Is the market for hunting dogs bigger? Can someone suggest any other avenues to go to help move these puppies out? Any input would be appreciated and can be posted here.
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woodshafengsps
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While I think it would be nice to get all your show prospects in show homes, unfortunately the chances of that always happening is slim.
IMO, I think I would rather place a show puppy in a good pet home then hold out for one only to have it when it is 5 mths old,and harder to place. Bottom line is the puppy deserves a good home.
Laura Wood
Woods Hafen GSP's
From: Tracy Novoa To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:07 PM Subject: [gsp-l] Show Puppy Sales
While I strive to breed for correct conformation (and I've only bred/co-bred four litters) my sales have been primarily for hunting companions. This is fine as my dogs have proven themselves as good hunting specimens. I am wondering...what sells the "show dog" or are people breeding their own show dogs?
This past weekend I saw a gorgeous litter of now 5 month old puppies in need of ANY form of a good home. They have a "to die for" pedigree, all health clearances on the parents, and have all their vet checks/vaccinations good for a year. The sire and dam are reknown show dogs themselves. Unfortunately, the breeder cannot place these dogs and is trying her hardest to keep them properly socialized and trained. There are several breeders on here who are trying to help but there have been no takers. She's asking a fair price for the quality and probably below what many breedings get.
What gives? Is the market just really that bad right now? Is the market for hunting dogs bigger? Can someone suggest any other avenues to go to help move these puppies out? Any input would be appreciated and can be posted here.
I posted for a friend.
Thanks,
Tracy N.
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gsp4me1
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| 12/20/2011 2:34 PM |
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| Thank you, Tracy for posting about the quality of my puppies. When I bred Cait I did not breed her with the intent of selling all the puppies to show homes. My first priority was and is that they are in a home where they are well cared for and part of the family. I bred her because of her good confirmation, wonderful temperament and good health. I wanted others to be able to have a GSP like her. I was also encourage to breed her because of these traits. She is only my third GSP but by far she is the easiest keeper. I do also feel that given the right training she'd be a very good hunter.
Melanie Shufran
---- Tracy Novoa wrote:
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> While I strive to breed for correct conformation (and I've only bred/co-bred four litters) my sales have been primarily for hunting companions. This is fine as my dogs have proven themselves as good hunting specimens. I am wondering...what sells the "show dog" or are people breeding their own show dogs?
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> This past weekend I saw a gorgeous litter of now 5 month old puppies in need of ANY form of a good home. They have a "to die for" pedigree, all health clearances on the parents, and have all their vet checks/vaccinations good for a year. The sire and dam are reknown show dogs themselves. Unfortunately, the breeder cannot place these dogs and is trying her hardest to keep them properly socialized and trained. There are several breeders on here who are trying to help but there have been no takers. She's asking a fair price for the quality and probably below what many breedings get.
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> What gives? Is the market just really that bad right now? Is the market for hunting dogs bigger? Can someone suggest any other avenues to go to help move these puppies out? Any input would be appreciated and can be posted here.
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> I posted for a friend.
> Thanks,
> Tracy N.
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Gspdoo
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| 12/20/2011 2:36 PM |
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Melanie -- congratulations on your wonderful litter. They are lovely
puppies. Realizing where you are, I now see part of the problem -- not that Erie
is the middle of nowhere, but you're a substantial distance from the owner of
your stud dog, and the breeder of your bitch, so you have no nearby
mentors, and haven't yet developed a reputation in your area. I can
identify with all of that, having moved to Boston to got to graduate school
with my first little Shorthair, and nobody around I knew. Don't
think that this is the way it will always be! And now that people know your
situation, I'm sure you will find homes for those youngsters. They are really
nice puppies.that anyone should be happy to own. I don't know if people from
around here will travel that far, but I will mention them if I get
inquiries.
Sandra Kretz
MARIAH
In a message dated 11/10/2011 11:49:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
gsp4me@roadrunner.com writes:
Thank
you, Tracy for posting about the quality of my puppies. When I bred Cait
I did not breed her with the intent of selling all the puppies to show
homes. My first priority was and is that they are in a home where they
are well cared for and part of the family. I bred her because of her
good confirmation, wonderful temperament and good health. I wanted
others to be able to have a GSP like her. I was also encourage to breed
her because of these traits. She is only my third GSP but by far she is
the easiest keeper. I do also feel that given the right training
she'd be a very good hunter. Melanie Shufran ---- Tracy
Novoa wrote: > > While I strive to
breed for correct conformation (and I've only bred/co-bred four litters) my
sales have been primarily for hunting companions. This is fine as my
dogs have proven themselves as good hunting specimens. I am
wondering...what sells the "show dog" or are people breeding their own show
dogs? > > This past weekend I saw a gorgeous litter of now 5
month old puppies in need of ANY form of a good home. They have a "to
die for" pedigree, all health clearances on the parents, and have all their
vet checks/vaccinations good for a year. The sire and dam are reknown
show dogs themselves. Unfortunately, the breeder cannot place these dogs
and is trying her hardest to keep them properly socialized and trained.
There are several breeders on here who are trying to help but there have been
no takers. She's asking a fair price for the quality and probably below
what many breedings get. > > What gives? Is the market just
really that bad right now? Is the market for hunting dogs bigger?
Can someone suggest any other avenues to go to help move these puppies
out? Any input would be appreciated and can be posted here. >
> I posted for a friend. > Thanks, > Tracy
N.
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Robaron
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| 12/20/2011 2:38 PM |
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| I, too, had the opportunity to meet Melanie and these four adorable pups at
last week's Hunt Test. Not only are these little guys well bred, but Melanie
has done a terrific job socializing them, training them and - quite
obviously - loving them to pieces.
These puppies are friendly, outgoing, confident and attentive. Melanie and a
freiend hd the four pups running in the fields after the last brace on
Saturday. They were easy to guide and found birds - pretty exciting for the
pups!
I'll definitely make referrals if the opportunity arises. Meanwhile, kudos
to Melanie for the great job she's doing with these happy adolescents.
Beth Ritchie
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Cc: "Tracy Novoa"
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Show Puppy Sales
> Thank you, Tracy for posting about the quality of my puppies. When I bred
> Cait I did not breed her with the intent of selling all the puppies to
> show homes. My first priority was and is that they are in a home where
> they are well cared for and part of the family. I bred her because of her
> good confirmation, wonderful temperament and good health. I wanted others
> to be able to have a GSP like her. I was also encourage to breed her
> because of these traits. She is only my third GSP but by far she is the
> easiest keeper. I do also feel that given the right training she'd be a
> very good hunter.
> Melanie Shufran
> ---- Tracy Novoa wrote:
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>> While I strive to breed for correct conformation (and I've only
>> bred/co-bred four litters) my sales have been primarily for hunting
>> companions. This is fine as my dogs have proven themselves as good
>> hunting specimens. I am wondering...what sells the "show dog" or are
>> people breeding their own show dogs?
>>
>> This past weekend I saw a gorgeous litter of now 5 month old puppies in
>> need of ANY form of a good home. They have a "to die for" pedigree, all
>> health clearances on the parents, and have all their vet
>> checks/vaccinations good for a year. The sire and dam are reknown show
>> dogs themselves. Unfortunately, the breeder cannot place these dogs and
>> is trying her hardest to keep them properly socialized and trained.
>> There are several breeders on here who are trying to help but there have
>> been no takers. She's asking a fair price for the quality and probably
>> below what many breedings get.
>>
>> What gives? Is the market just really that bad right now? Is the market
>> for hunting dogs bigger? Can someone suggest any other avenues to go to
>> help move these puppies out? Any input would be appreciated and can be
>> posted here.
>>
>> I posted for a friend.
>> Thanks,
>> Tracy N.
>
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stillskennelsak
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| 12/20/2011 2:55 PM |
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I have a home here in Alaska looking for a GSP needing a forever home. They had one of ours for 12 years and are trying to deal with losing him. Not a show/performance home, but a good one.
Anyone looking to place a dog or puppy in a good forever home, please let me know.
Pam Stillman
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