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david.nauer
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I think Sandra described a “Buja
Board” or “wobble board” -- it literally is a board with a
ball under it and can be constructed in various levels of sophistication --
that is a tool that is used to get young dogs used to surfaces that move under
their paws as the step on them -- in part that is part of introducing the
concepts of a teeter. There are huge numbers of techniques to teach
contacts and the concepts behind them -- just be sure you select one method and
apply it consistently. I recommend the Garrett system and most especially
taking young dogs (even at this young stage) and working “Crate Games”
-- this translates to general life, conformation, field, and anywhere you’d
use a crate, and can be expanded to almost any venue. Even my Master
Level Agility GSP is exposed to crate games reinforcements occasionally -- I
just did send outs of jump-jump-weaves-jump-crate, then did start line reinforcements
when I was doing 4 obstacle lead outs with her in the crate last week . . . J
Dave
David Nauer
Voyager GSPs
Colorado Springs
From:
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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011
12:30 PM
To: ersonName w:st="on">gsp-l@shorthairs.netersonName>
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
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You can also use different sizes of PVC for the
bottom of the teeter. I made one that was for them when they first
opened their eyes and then made one that was a little longer and higher when
they were older. They loved it. I also made a baby dog walk, and
for the tunnel I used duct tape to put two flower pots together. I used
bricks to stabilize the pots and keep them from rolling, but the puppies
figured out how to move the bricks and would get in the pots and roll them
everywhere. I also had one pup that would get on top of the pot tunnel
and would roll it walking on top like someone walking on a log. The
favorite from my last litter was the baby dog walk.
Bev Q
--- On Wed, 7/13/11, Gspdoo@aol.com wrote:
From: Gspdoo@aol.com
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
To: ersonName w:st="on">gsp-l@shorthairs.netersonName>
Cc: Mariahgsps@aol.com
Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 6:00 PM
Anne -- You can easily
make a little teeter by taking a square of 1/4 inch plywood (I think 24
inches comes pre-cut at Home Depot) -- put an old tennis ball underneath in
the middle -- drive a large nail into the ball where it touches the
board.Won't last forever, but certainly long enough for the puppies to
outgrow it. It's amazing how quickly they start to run right over it --
clompity clomp -- without even noticing that it moved.
In a message dated
7/13/2011 8:32:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, reflectiongsps@aol.com writes:
Thank
you Carol, you have given me some good ideas to do with this upcoming
litter. I have a 16' x 20' puppy pen that would be perfect for what you
described below. I will definitely look into purchasing some play
equipment for the pups to climb on and around, currently they have a huge old
stump to play on, but I think the plastic equipment would definitely be
a benefit. Give them new surfaces to explore and get use to...
The daily handling has always been a part of what I do, but I had not thought
about the individual play time and will definitely do that this time.
Anne
M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
refleksion@att.net
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From: whiteslinegsp
To: gsp-l <ersonName w:st="on">gsp-l@shorthairs.netersonName>>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 5:53 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I handle each pup
every day starting on the second day, picking them up and gently laying them
on thier back touching feet and ears and talking to them. From about the
seventh day I take them one by one to another room and do the same thing but
for about 3-5 minutes and extend the lengh of time away from their mother
every week. They have a kennel run when they are old enough and the weather
permits that has a large ball, a small teeter only about three
inches off the ground, a milk crate, several different doors mats of
different surfaces, a parking cone and a hard plastic container lid about
3X4 feet with two inches deep with water in it. I also separate the
pups at approx. 4 weeks, letting them play alone for a little while and
that time also increases with their age.. Crate training starts gradually
around 4 weeks.
In my experience this
is also good for the bitch, she has complete trust that her babies will be
okay and coming back and it gives the pups a little independence.
It is a lot of work
but the rewards are many.
Interesting... I had
not thought about the influence the mothers temperament has on a
litter...would explain alot with the temperament issues I have with two of my
girls...both have the same mother, and if memory serves, the first time I saw
their mother, she was totally wired and uncontrollable, and was laughingly
told that that was her nature. But then her mother, thinking back to when I
owned her for a time, was the same way. Hmm...makes sense.
About the Modified Temperament Testing Activities...what do you do?
What kind of activities? I home raise all my pups, first in the spare
bedroom until their eyes open, then into the kitchen, then part of the day
outside after they turn 5 weeks old, so it has not been an issue, but I would
be very interested to know how you test them and what activities you do with
them.
Anne
M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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Message-----
From: whiteslinegsp <whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l <gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
While I strongly
agree that a home raised litter gets more exposure to the different smells,
sounds etc. of the home and the people around them, I believe
there are other influences that also develope a well adjusted puppy/dog. I
truly believe the temperament of the mother has a great deal to do with the
temperament of the litter since their first weeks are spent mostly with
her. Hands on from day one, modified temperament test activities, I
think are a wonderful help for a well adjusted puppy/dog. I also
believe that regardless of where a litter is whelped and lives
initially, they need as much exposure to new places,
travel, sounds, surfaces and people as possible ( after they have
had their shots). JMO
-----Original
Message-----
From: dise454 <dise454@aol.com>
To: gsp-l <gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne,
I have never raised a
puppy in a kennel, but I would think the puppies would have much less
personal interaction and less attention given to them. Ultimately this
could create temperament problems if not socialized properly.
I'm sure that a well run kennel would find ways to work through these
challenges.
-----Original Message-----
From: reflectiongsps <reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l <gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [gsp-l] New Topic
This is something I
have been wondering about for quite a while...
I
would be interested in knowing what other breeders feel is the difference, if
any, in the mental development of a puppy that is laceName
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as opposed to In Home raised.
Anne
M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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therozypozy
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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 1:59 PM
To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic I've done something similar and called it a wobble board. You can use a square board and put a piece of PVC pipe or a ball in the middle on the bottom. Our GSP puppy took a long time to like the wobble board but the coonhound puppy would run up to it and bounce around. (These are older puppies, over 8 weeks as I haven't had a litter.)
A trainer recently told me that she feels a puppy should have encountered 10 different surfaces and 100 different people by the time they are 6 months old.
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reflectiongsps
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Thanks Sandra, I will do that...LOL! We have scrap wood from when we built the barn and of course, loads of old tennis balls in the yard... 
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gspdoo
To: gsp-l
Cc: Mariahgsps
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne -- You can easily make a little teeter by taking a square of 1/4 inch plywood (I think 24 inches comes pre-cut at Home Depot) -- put an old tennis ball underneath in the middle -- drive a large nail into the ball where it touches the board.Won't last forever, but certainly long enough for the puppies to outgrow it. It's amazing how quickly they start to run right over it -- clompity clomp -- without even noticing that it moved.
Sandra
Thank you Carol, you have given me some good ideas to do with this upcoming litter. I have a 16' x 20' puppy pen that would be perfect for what you described below. I will definitely look into purchasing some play equipment for the pups to climb on and around, currently they have a huge old stump to play on, but I think the plastic equipment would definitely be a benefit. Give them new surfaces to explore and get use to... The daily handling has always been a part of what I do, but I had not thought about the individual play time and will definitely do that this time.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
refleksion@att.net
-----Original Message-----
From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 5:53 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I handle each pup every day starting on the second day, picking them up and gently laying them on thier back touching feet and ears and talking to them. From about the seventh day I take them one by one to another room and do the same thing but for about 3-5 minutes and extend the lengh of time away from their mother every week. They have a kennel run when they are old enough and the weather permits that has a large ball, a small teeter only about three inches off the ground, a milk crate, several different doors mats of different surfaces, a parking cone and a hard plastic container lid about 3X4 feet with two inches deep with water in it. I also separate the pups at approx. 4 weeks, letting them play alone for a little while and that time also increases with their age.. Crate training starts gradually around 4 weeks.
In my experience this is also good for the bitch, she has complete trust that her babies will be okay and coming back and it gives the pups a little independence.
It is a lot of work but the rewards are many.
Carol
Interesting... I had not thought about the influence the mothers temperament has on a litter...would explain alot with the temperament issues I have with two of my girls...both have the same mother, and if memory serves, the first time I saw their mother, she was totally wired and uncontrollable, and was laughingly told that that was her nature. But then her mother, thinking back to when I owned her for a time, was the same way. Hmm...makes sense.
About the Modified Temperament Testing Activities...what do you do? What kind of activities? I home raise all my pups, first in the spare bedroom until their eyes open, then into the kitchen, then part of the day outside after they turn 5 weeks old, so it has not been an issue, but I would be very interested to know how you test them and what activities you do with them.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
-----Original Message-----
From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
While I strongly agree that a home raised litter gets more exposure to the different smells, sounds etc. of the home and the people around them, I believe there are other influences that also develope a well adjusted puppy/dog. I truly believe the temperament of the mother has a great deal to do with the temperament of the litter since their first weeks are spent mostly with her. Hands on from day one, modified temperament test activities, I think are a wonderful help for a well adjusted puppy/dog. I also believe that regardless of where a litter is whelped and lives initially, they need as much exposure to new places, travel, sounds, surfaces and people as possible ( after they have had their shots). JMO
Carol White
-----Original Message-----
From: dise454 < dise454@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne,
I have never raised a puppy in a kennel, but I would think the puppies would have much less personal interaction and less attention given to them. Ultimately this could create temperament problems if not socialized properly. I'm sure that a well run kennel would find ways to work through these challenges.
-----Original Message-----
From: reflectiongsps < reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [gsp-l] New Topic
This is something I have been wondering about for quite a while...
I would be interested in knowing what other breeders feel is the difference, if any, in the mental development of a puppy that is Kennel Building raised as opposed to In Home raised.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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sunrisegsp
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| 08/05/2011 1:30 AM |
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My Buja Board is round to avoid sharp corners pinching tiny toes. I'd advise using one of these with only one puppy at a time, lest someone get a toe pinched and not want to get near it again! We clicker imprint our babies and introduce the board to one pup at a time, clicking first for a sniff and later for putting one foot on it, then two, then four. In no time at all those little puppies are pounding right on it waiting for their cookie!
-----Original Message-----
From: Nauer, David J (Dave) (Dave)
To: gsp-l
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 3:35 pm
Subject: RE: [gsp-l] New Topic
I think Sandra described a “Buja Board” or “wobble board” -- it literally is a board with a ball under it and can be constructed in various levels of sophistication -- that is a tool that is used to get young dogs used to surfaces that move under their paws as the step on them -- in part that is part of introducing the concepts of a teeter. There are huge numbers of techniques to teach contacts and the concepts behind them -- just be sure you select one method and apply it consistently. I recommend the Garrett system and most especially taking young dogs (even at this young stage) and working “Crate Games” -- this translates to general life, conformation, field, and anywhere you’d use a crate, and can be expanded to almost any venue. Even my Master Level Agility GSP is exposed to crate games reinforcements occasionally -- I just did send outs of jump-jump-weaves-jump-crate, then did start line reinforcements when I was doing 4 obstacle lead outs with her in the crate last week . . . J
Dave
David Nauer
Voyager GSPs
Colorado Springs
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You can also use different sizes of PVC for the bottom of the teeter. I made one that was for them when they first opened their eyes and then made one that was a little longer and higher when they were older. They loved it. I also made a baby dog walk, and for the tunnel I used duct tape to put two flower pots together. I used bricks to stabilize the pots and keep them from rolling, but the puppies figured out how to move the bricks and would get in the pots and roll them everywhere. I also had one pup that would get on top of the pot tunnel and would roll it walking on top like someone walking on a log. The favorite from my last litter was the baby dog walk.
Anne -- You can easily make a little teeter by taking a square of 1/4 inch plywood (I think 24 inches comes pre-cut at Home Depot) -- put an old tennis ball underneath in the middle -- drive a large nail into the ball where it touches the board.Won't last forever, but certainly long enough for the puppies to outgrow it. It's amazing how quickly they start to run right over it -- clompity clomp -- without even noticing that it moved.
Thank you Carol, you have given me some good ideas to do with this upcoming litter. I have a 16' x 20' puppy pen that would be perfect for what you described below. I will definitely look into purchasing some play equipment for the pups to climb on and around, currently they have a huge old stump to play on, but I think the plastic equipment would definitely be a benefit. Give them new surfaces to explore and get use to... The daily handling has always been a part of what I do, but I had not thought about the individual play time and will definitely do that this time.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
I handle each pup every day starting on the second day, picking them up and gently laying them on thier back touching feet and ears and talking to them. From about the seventh day I take them one by one to another room and do the same thing but for about 3-5 minutes and extend the lengh of time away from their mother every week. They have a kennel run when they are old enough and the weather permits that has a large ball, a small teeter only about three inches off the ground, a milk crate, several different doors mats of different surfaces, a parking cone and a hard plastic container lid about 3X4 feet with two inches deep with water in it. I also separate the pups at approx. 4 weeks, letting them play alone for a little while and that time also increases with their age.. Crate training starts gradually around 4 weeks.
In my experience this is also good for the bitch, she has complete trust that her babies will be okay and coming back and it gives the pups a little independence.
It is a lot of work but the rewards are many.
Interesting... I had not thought about the influence the mothers temperament has on a litter...would explain alot with the temperament issues I have with two of my girls...both have the same mother, and if memory serves, the first time I saw their mother, she was totally wired and uncontrollable, and was laughingly told that that was her nature. But then her mother, thinking back to when I owned her for a time, was the same way. Hmm...makes sense.
About the Modified Temperament Testing Activities...what do you do? What kind of activities? I home raise all my pups, first in the spare bedroom until their eyes open, then into the kitchen, then part of the day outside after they turn 5 weeks old, so it has not been an issue, but I would be very interested to know how you test them and what activities you do with them.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
While I strongly agree that a home raised litter gets more exposure to the different smells, sounds etc. of the home and the people around them, I believe there are other influences that also develope a well adjusted puppy/dog. I truly believe the temperament of the mother has a great deal to do with the temperament of the litter since their first weeks are spent mostly with her. Hands on from day one, modified temperament test activities, I think are a wonderful help for a well adjusted puppy/dog. I also believe that regardless of where a litter is whelped and lives initially, they need as much exposure to new places, travel, sounds, surfaces and people as possible ( after they have had their shots). JMO
Anne,
I have never raised a puppy in a kennel, but I would think the puppies would have much less personal interaction and less attention given to them. Ultimately this could create temperament problems if not socialized properly. I'm sure that a well run kennel would find ways to work through these challenges.
-----Original Message-----
This is something I have been wondering about for quite a while...
I would be interested in knowing what other breeders feel is the difference, if any, in the mental development of a puppy that is Kennel Building raised as opposed to In Home raised.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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invernessgsp
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you can also get some neat tunnels at toys are us or one of those type stores, for about $10, they are great, and they flatten and tie flat for storage; I had one for Hemi & Shimmer's litter, then put it away until this litter, and he loves it, runs back and forth thru it, takes naps in it and drags it all over the porch. Dorothy H. Thompson
From: "reflectiongsps@aol.com"
To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Thanks Sandra, I will do that...LOL! We have scrap wood from when we built the barn and of course, loads of old tennis balls in the yard...
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gspdoo
To: gsp-l
Cc: Mariahgsps
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne -- You can easily make a little teeter by taking a square of 1/4 inch plywood (I think 24 inches comes pre-cut at Home Depot) -- put an old tennis ball underneath in the middle -- drive a large nail into the ball where it touches the board.Won't last forever, but certainly long enough for the puppies to outgrow it. It's amazing how quickly they start to run right over it -- clompity clomp -- without even noticing that it moved.
Sandra
Thank you Carol, you have given me some good ideas to do with this upcoming litter. I have a 16' x 20' puppy pen that would be perfect for what you described below. I will definitely look into purchasing some play equipment for the pups to climb on and around, currently they have a huge old stump to play on, but I think the plastic equipment would definitely be a benefit. Give them new surfaces to explore and get use to... The daily handling has always been a part of what I do, but I had not thought about the individual play time and will definitely do that this time.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
refleksion@att.net
-----Original Message-----
From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 5:53 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I handle each pup every day starting on the second day, picking them up and gently laying them on thier back touching feet and ears and talking to them. From about the seventh day I take them one by one to another room and do the same thing but for about 3-5 minutes and extend the lengh of time away from their mother every week. They have a kennel run when they are old enough and the weather permits that has a large ball, a small teeter only about three inches off the ground, a milk crate, several different doors mats of different surfaces, a parking cone and a hard plastic container lid about 3X4 feet with two inches deep with water in it. I also separate the pups at approx. 4 weeks, letting them play alone for a little while and that time also increases with their age.. Crate training starts gradually around 4 weeks.
In my experience this is also good for the bitch, she has complete trust that her babies will be okay and coming back and it gives the pups a little independence.
It is a lot of work but the rewards are many.
Carol
Interesting... I had not thought about the influence the mothers temperament has on a litter...would explain alot with the temperament issues I have with two of my girls...both have the same mother, and if memory serves, the first time I saw their mother, she was totally wired and uncontrollable, and was laughingly told that that was her nature. But then her mother, thinking back to when I owned her for a time, was the same way. Hmm...makes sense.
About the Modified Temperament Testing Activities...what do you do? What kind of activities? I home raise all my pups, first in the spare bedroom until their eyes open, then into the kitchen, then part of the day outside after they turn 5 weeks old, so it has not been an issue, but I would be very interested to know how you test them and what activities you do with them.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
-----Original Message-----
From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
While I strongly agree that a home raised litter gets more exposure to the different smells, sounds etc. of the home and the people around them, I believe there are other influences that also develope a well adjusted puppy/dog. I truly believe the temperament of the mother has a great deal to do with the temperament of the litter since their first weeks are spent mostly with her. Hands on from day one, modified temperament test activities, I think are a wonderful help for a well adjusted puppy/dog. I also believe that regardless of where a litter is whelped and lives initially, they need as much exposure to new places, travel, sounds, surfaces and people as possible ( after they have had their shots). JMO
Carol White
-----Original Message-----
From: dise454 < dise454@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne,
I have never raised a puppy in a kennel, but I would think the puppies would have much less personal interaction and less attention given to them. Ultimately this could create temperament problems if not socialized properly. I'm sure that a well run kennel would find ways to work through these challenges.
-----Original Message-----
From: reflectiongsps < reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [gsp-l] New Topic
This is something I have been wondering about for quite a while...
I would be interested in knowing what other breeders feel is the difference, if any, in the mental development of a puppy that is Kennel Building raised as opposed to In Home raised.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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dise454
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All this puppy talk and I'm having puppy fever!! If only I wasn't at my limit!! I'm so impressed with all the puppy agility equipment I would never had thought to do that at these young ages. I've also seen those tunnels at Ikea. Not sure if that is a National store, but fairly popular in the NE (and since it is a Swedish store they all have great Sweedish meatballs in their store cafeteria ) .
-----Original Message-----
From: dorothy thompson
To: gsp-l
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
you can also get some neat tunnels at toys are us or one of those type stores, for about $10, they are great, and they flatten and tie flat for storage; I had one for Hemi & Shimmer's litter, then put it away until this litter, and he loves it, runs back and forth thru it, takes naps in it and drags it all over the porch.
Dorothy H. Thompson
From: "reflectiongsps@aol.com" <reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:04 PM
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Thanks Sandra, I will do that...LOL! We have scrap wood from when we built the barn and of course, loads of old tennis balls in the yard...
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 1:02 pm
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Anne -- You can easily make a little teeter by taking a square of 1/4 inch plywood (I think 24 inches comes pre-cut at Home Depot) -- put an old tennis ball underneath in the middle -- drive a large nail into the ball where it touches the board.Won't last forever, but certainly long enough for the puppies to outgrow it. It's amazing how quickly they start to run right over it -- clompity clomp -- without even noticing that it moved.
Sandra
Thank you Carol, you have given me some good ideas to do with this upcoming litter. I have a 16' x 20' puppy pen that would be perfect for what you described below. I will definitely look into purchasing some play equipment for the pups to climb on and around, currently they have a huge old stump to play on, but I think the plastic equipment would definitely be a benefit. Give them new surfaces to explore and get use to... The daily handling has always been a part of what I do, but I had not thought about the individual play time and will definitely do that this time.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
refleksion@att.net
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To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 5:53 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I handle each pup every day starting on the second day, picking them up and gently laying them on thier back touching feet and ears and talking to them. From about the seventh day I take them one by one to another room and do the same thing but for about 3-5 minutes and extend the lengh of time away from their mother every week. They have a kennel run when they are old enough and the weather permits that has a large ball, a small teeter only about three inches off the ground, a milk crate, several different doors mats of different surfaces, a parking cone and a hard plastic container lid about 3X4 feet with two inches deep with water in it. I also separate the pups at approx. 4 weeks, letting them play alone for a little while and that time also increases with their age.. Crate training starts gradually around 4 weeks.
In my experience this is also good for the bitch, she has complete trust that her babies will be okay and coming back and it gives the pups a little independence.
It is a lot of work but the rewards are many.
Carol
Interesting... I had not thought about the influence the mothers temperament has on a litter...would explain alot with the temperament issues I have with two of my girls...both have the same mother, and if memory serves, the first time I saw their mother, she was totally wired and uncontrollable, and was laughingly told that that was her nature. But then her mother, thinking back to when I owned her for a time, was the same way. Hmm...makes sense.
About the Modified Temperament Testing Activities...what do you do? What kind of activities? I home raise all my pups, first in the spare bedroom until their eyes open, then into the kitchen, then part of the day outside after they turn 5 weeks old, so it has not been an issue, but I would be very interested to know how you test them and what activities you do with them.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
While I strongly agree that a home raised litter gets more exposure to the different smells, sounds etc. of the home and the people around them, I believe there are other influences that also develope a well adjusted puppy/dog. I truly believe the temperament of the mother has a great deal to do with the temperament of the litter since their first weeks are spent mostly with her. Hands on from day one, modified temperament test activities, I think are a wonderful help for a well adjusted puppy/dog. I also believe that regardless of where a litter is whelped and lives initially, they need as much exposure to new places, travel, sounds, surfaces and people as possible ( after they have had their shots). JMO
Carol White
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Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne,
I have never raised a puppy in a kennel, but I would think the puppies would have much less personal interaction and less attention given to them. Ultimately this could create temperament problems if not socialized properly. I'm sure that a well run kennel would find ways to work through these challenges.
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From: reflectiongsps < reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [gsp-l] New Topic
This is something I have been wondering about for quite a while...
I would be interested in knowing what other breeders feel is the difference, if any, in the mental development of a puppy that is Kennel Building raised as opposed to In Home raised.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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If you cover the edges of the teeter with a thick piece of carpet there is less chance of pinching toes. Also if you keep an eye out at yard sales the young childs playground, I think by Fisher Price, made of heavy plastic, that also gives pups many additional challanges and you can pick them up for $10-$20.
Carol White
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From: dise454
To: gsp-l
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 6:51 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
All this puppy talk and I'm having puppy fever!! If only I wasn't at my limit!! I'm so impressed with all the puppy agility equipment I would never had thought to do that at these young ages. I've also seen those tunnels at Ikea. Not sure if that is a National store, but fairly popular in the NE (and since it is a Swedish store they all have great Sweedish meatballs in their store cafeteria ) .
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From: dorothy thompson < invernessgsp@bellsouth.net>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
you can also get some neat tunnels at toys are us or one of those type stores, for about $10, they are great, and they flatten and tie flat for storage; I had one for Hemi & Shimmer's litter, then put it away until this litter, and he loves it, runs back and forth thru it, takes naps in it and drags it all over the porch.
Dorothy H. Thompson
From: "reflectiongsps@aol.com" <reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Thanks Sandra, I will do that...LOL! We have scrap wood from when we built the barn and of course, loads of old tennis balls in the yard...
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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From: Gspdoo < Gspdoo@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Cc: Mariahgsps < Mariahgsps@aol.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne -- You can easily make a little teeter by taking a square of 1/4 inch plywood (I think 24 inches comes pre-cut at Home Depot) -- put an old tennis ball underneath in the middle -- drive a large nail into the ball where it touches the board.Won't last forever, but certainly long enough for the puppies to outgrow it. It's amazing how quickly they start to run right over it -- clompity clomp -- without even noticing that it moved.
Sandra
Thank you Carol, you have given me some good ideas to do with this upcoming litter. I have a 16' x 20' puppy pen that would be perfect for what you described below. I will definitely look into purchasing some play equipment for the pups to climb on and around, currently they have a huge old stump to play on, but I think the plastic equipment would definitely be a benefit. Give them new surfaces to explore and get use to... The daily handling has always been a part of what I do, but I had not thought about the individual play time and will definitely do that this time.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
refleksion@att.net
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From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 5:53 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I handle each pup every day starting on the second day, picking them up and gently laying them on thier back touching feet and ears and talking to them. From about the seventh day I take them one by one to another room and do the same thing but for about 3-5 minutes and extend the lengh of time away from their mother every week. They have a kennel run when they are old enough and the weather permits that has a large ball, a small teeter only about three inches off the ground, a milk crate, several different doors mats of different surfaces, a parking cone and a hard plastic container lid about 3X4 feet with two inches deep with water in it. I also separate the pups at approx. 4 weeks, letting them play alone for a little while and that time also increases with their age.. Crate training starts gradually around 4 weeks.
In my experience this is also good for the bitch, she has complete trust that her babies will be okay and coming back and it gives the pups a little independence.
It is a lot of work but the rewards are many.
Carol
Interesting... I had not thought about the influence the mothers temperament has on a litter...would explain alot with the temperament issues I have with two of my girls...both have the same mother, and if memory serves, the first time I saw their mother, she was totally wired and uncontrollable, and was laughingly told that that was her nature. But then her mother, thinking back to when I owned her for a time, was the same way. Hmm...makes sense.
About the Modified Temperament Testing Activities...what do you do? What kind of activities? I home raise all my pups, first in the spare bedroom until their eyes open, then into the kitchen, then part of the day outside after they turn 5 weeks old, so it has not been an issue, but I would be very interested to know how you test them and what activities you do with them.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
While I strongly agree that a home raised litter gets more exposure to the different smells, sounds etc. of the home and the people around them, I believe there are other influences that also develope a well adjusted puppy/dog. I truly believe the temperament of the mother has a great deal to do with the temperament of the litter since their first weeks are spent mostly with her. Hands on from day one, modified temperament test activities, I think are a wonderful help for a well adjusted puppy/dog. I also believe that regardless of where a litter is whelped and lives initially, they need as much exposure to new places, travel, sounds, surfaces and people as possible ( after they have had their shots). JMO
Carol White
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From: dise454 < dise454@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne,
I have never raised a puppy in a kennel, but I would think the puppies would have much less personal interaction and less attention given to them. Ultimately this could create temperament problems if not socialized properly. I'm sure that a well run kennel would find ways to work through these challenges.
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From: reflectiongsps < reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [gsp-l] New Topic
This is something I have been wondering about for quite a while...
I would be interested in knowing what other breeders feel is the difference, if any, in the mental development of a puppy that is Kennel Building raised as opposed to In Home raised.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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ooh the development of the tunnel sucking GSP
I own one !!!
judy
--- On Wed, 7/13/11, dorothy thompson wrote:
From: dorothy thompson
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
To: "gsp-l@shorthairs.net"
Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 6:38 PM
you can also get some neat tunnels at toys are us or one of those type stores, for about $10, they are great, and they flatten and tie flat for storage; I had one for Hemi & Shimmer's litter, then put it away until this litter, and he loves it, runs
back and forth thru it, takes naps in it and drags it all over the porch. Dorothy H. Thompson
From: "reflectiongsps@aol.com"
To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Thanks Sandra, I will do that...LOL! We have scrap wood from when we built the barn and of course, loads of old tennis balls in the yard...
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gspdoo
To: gsp-l
Cc: Mariahgsps
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne -- You can easily make a little teeter by taking a square of 1/4 inch plywood (I think 24 inches comes pre-cut at Home Depot) -- put an old tennis ball underneath in the middle -- drive a large nail into the ball where it touches the board.Won't last forever, but certainly long enough for the puppies to outgrow it. It's amazing how quickly they start to run right over it -- clompity clomp -- without even noticing that it moved.
Sandra
Thank you Carol, you have given me some good ideas to do with this upcoming litter. I have a 16' x 20' puppy pen that would be perfect for what you described below. I will definitely look into purchasing some play equipment for the pups to climb on and around, currently they have a huge old stump to play on, but I think the plastic equipment would definitely be a benefit. Give them new surfaces to explore and get use to... The daily handling has always been a part of what I do, but I had not thought about the individual play time and will definitely do that this time.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
refleksion@att.net
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From: whiteslinegsp <whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l <gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 5:53 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I handle each pup every day starting on the second day, picking them up and gently laying them on thier back touching feet and ears and talking to them. From about the seventh day I take them one by one to another room and do the same thing but for about 3-5 minutes and extend the lengh of time away from their mother every week. They have a kennel run when they are old enough and the weather permits that has a large ball, a small teeter only about three inches off the ground, a milk crate, several different doors mats of different surfaces, a parking cone and a hard plastic container lid about 3X4 feet with two inches deep with water in it. I also separate the pups at approx. 4 weeks, letting them play alone for a little while and that time also increases with their age.. Crate training starts gradually around 4 weeks.
In my experience this is also good for the bitch, she has complete trust that her babies will be okay and coming back and it gives the pups a little independence.
It is a lot of work but the rewards are many.
Carol
Interesting... I had not thought about the influence the mothers temperament has on a litter...would explain alot with the temperament issues I have with two of my girls...both have the same mother, and if memory serves, the first time I saw their mother, she was totally wired and uncontrollable, and was laughingly told that that was her nature. But then her mother, thinking back to when I owned her for a time, was the same way. Hmm...makes sense.
About the Modified Temperament Testing Activities...what do you do? What kind of activities? I home raise all my pups, first in the spare bedroom until their eyes open, then into the kitchen, then part of the day outside after they turn 5 weeks old, so it has not been an issue, but I would be very interested to know how you test them and what activities you do with them.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
While I strongly agree that a home raised litter gets more exposure to the different smells, sounds etc. of the home and the people around them, I believe there are other influences that also develope a well adjusted puppy/dog. I truly believe the temperament of the mother has a great deal to do with the temperament of the litter since their first weeks are spent mostly with her. Hands on from day one, modified temperament test activities, I think are a wonderful help for a well adjusted puppy/dog. I also believe that regardless of where a litter is whelped and lives initially, they need as much exposure to new places, travel, sounds, surfaces and people as possible ( after they have had their shots). JMO
Carol White
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From: dise454 < dise454@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne,
I have never raised a puppy in a kennel, but I would think the puppies would have much less personal interaction and less attention given to them. Ultimately this could create temperament problems if not socialized properly. I'm sure that a well run kennel would find ways to work through these challenges.
-----Original Message-----
From: reflectiongsps < reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [gsp-l] New Topic
This is something I have been wondering about for quite a while...
I would be interested in knowing what other breeders feel is the difference, if any, in the mental development of a puppy that is Kennel Building raised as opposed to In Home raised.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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hahahaha, it just occurred to me, do you think that's where Karen's Flynn learned that? After all, he had a tunnel to play in as a baby here too. Dorothy H. Thompson
From: Judy S
To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
ooh the development of the tunnel sucking GSP
I own one !!!
judy
--- On Wed, 7/13/11, dorothy thompson wrote:
From:
dorothy thompson
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
To: "gsp-l@shorthairs.net"
Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 6:38 PM
you can also get some neat tunnels at toys are us or one of those type stores, for about $10, they are great, and they flatten and tie flat for storage; I had one for Hemi & Shimmer's litter, then put it away until this litter, and he loves it, runs
back and forth thru it, takes naps in it and drags it all over the porch. Dorothy H. Thompson
From: "reflectiongsps@aol.com"
To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Thanks Sandra, I will do that...LOL! We have scrap wood from when we built the barn and of course, loads of old tennis balls in the yard...
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gspdoo
To: gsp-l
Cc: Mariahgsps
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne -- You can easily make a little teeter by taking a square of 1/4 inch plywood (I think 24 inches comes pre-cut at Home Depot) -- put an old tennis ball underneath in the middle -- drive a large nail into the ball where it touches the board.Won't last forever, but certainly long enough for the puppies to outgrow it. It's amazing how quickly they start to run right over it -- clompity clomp -- without even noticing that it moved.
Sandra
Thank you Carol, you have given me some good ideas to do with this upcoming litter. I have a 16' x 20' puppy pen that would be perfect for what you described below. I will definitely look into purchasing some play equipment for the pups to climb on and around, currently they have a huge old stump to play on, but I think the plastic equipment would definitely be a benefit. Give them new surfaces to explore and get use to... The daily handling has always been a part of what I do, but I had not thought about the individual play time and will definitely do that this time.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
refleksion@att.net
-----Original Message-----
From: whiteslinegsp <whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l <gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 5:53 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I handle each pup every day starting on the second day, picking them up and gently laying them on thier back touching feet and ears and talking to them. From about the seventh day I take them one by one to another room and do the same thing but for about 3-5 minutes and extend the lengh of time away from their mother every week. They have a kennel run when they are old enough and the weather permits that has a large ball, a small teeter only about three inches off the ground, a milk crate, several different doors mats of different surfaces, a parking cone and a hard plastic container lid about 3X4 feet with two inches deep with water in it. I also separate the pups at approx. 4 weeks, letting them play alone for a little while and that time also increases with their age.. Crate training starts gradually around 4 weeks.
In my experience this is also good for the bitch, she has complete trust that her babies will be okay and coming back and it gives the pups a little independence.
It is a lot of work but the rewards are many.
Carol
Interesting... I had not thought about the influence the mothers temperament has on a litter...would explain alot with the temperament issues I have with two of my girls...both have the same mother, and if memory serves, the first time I saw their mother, she was totally wired and uncontrollable, and was laughingly told that that was her nature. But then her mother, thinking back to when I owned her for a time, was the same way. Hmm...makes sense.
About the Modified Temperament Testing Activities...what do you do? What kind of activities? I home raise all my pups, first in the spare bedroom until their eyes open, then into the kitchen, then part of the day outside after they turn 5 weeks old, so it has not been an issue, but I would be very interested to know how you test them and what activities you do with them.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
-----Original Message-----
From: whiteslinegsp <whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l <gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
While I strongly agree that a home raised litter gets more exposure to the different smells, sounds etc. of the home and the people around them, I believe there are other influences that also develope a well adjusted puppy/dog. I truly believe the temperament of the mother has a great deal to do with the temperament of the litter since their first weeks are spent mostly with her. Hands on from day one, modified temperament test activities, I think are a wonderful help for a well adjusted puppy/dog. I also believe that regardless of where a litter is whelped and lives initially, they need as much exposure to new places, travel, sounds, surfaces and people as possible ( after they have had their shots). JMO
Carol White
-----Original Message-----
From: dise454 <dise454@aol.com>
To: gsp-l <gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne,
I have never raised a puppy in a kennel, but I would think the puppies would have much less personal interaction and less attention given to them. Ultimately this could create temperament problems if not socialized properly. I'm sure that a well run kennel would find ways to work through these challenges.
-----Original Message-----
From: reflectiongsps < reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l <gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [gsp-l] New Topic
This is something I have been wondering about for quite a while...
I would be interested in knowing what other breeders feel is the difference, if any, in the mental development of a puppy that is Kennel Building raised as opposed to In Home raised.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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I visited GoodWill and other second hand stores and picked up some children's toys - especially the ones that make noise when touched. Pups interacted very well with them and the favorite was a small child's piano. They became very adept at pounding on those keys! I also used various sizes of cardboard boxes for them to climb on, jump off of, play king of the mountain. If you cut doors in the sizes, they will really explore.
Rayanne Lehman
From: reflectiongsps@aol.com
To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:20:27 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Thank you Carol, you have given me some good ideas to do with this upcoming litter. I have a 16' x 20' puppy pen that would be perfect for what you described below. I will definitely look into purchasing some play equipment for the pups to climb on and around, currently they have a huge old stump to play on, but I think the plastic equipment would definitely be a benefit. Give them new surfaces to explore and get use to... The daily handling has always been a part of what I do, but I had not thought about the individual play time and will definitely do that this time.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
www.refleksiongsps.com
refleksion@att.net
-----Original Message-----
From: whiteslinegsp
To: gsp-l
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 5:53 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I handle each pup every day starting on the second day, picking them up and gently laying them on thier back touching feet and ears and talking to them. From about the seventh day I take them one by one to another room and do the same thing but for about 3-5 minutes and extend the lengh of time away from their mother every week. They have a kennel run when they are old enough and the weather permits that has a large ball, a small teeter only about three inches off the ground, a milk crate, several different doors mats of different surfaces, a parking cone and a hard plastic container lid about 3X4 feet with two inches deep with water in it. I also separate the pups at approx. 4 weeks, letting them play alone for a little while and that time also increases with their age.. Crate training starts gradually around 4 weeks.
In my experience this is also good for the bitch, she has complete trust that her babies will be okay and coming back and it gives the pups a little independence.
It is a lot of work but the rewards are many.
Carol
-----Original Message-----
From: reflectiongsps
To: gsp-l
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 8:35 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Interesting... I had not thought about the influence the mothers temperament has on a litter...would explain alot with the temperament issues I have with two of my girls...both have the same mother, and if memory serves, the first time I saw their mother, she was totally wired and uncontrollable, and was laughingly told that that was her nature. But then her mother, thinking back to when I owned her for a time, was the same way. Hmm...makes sense.
About the Modified Temperament Testing Activities...what do you do? What kind of activities? I home raise all my pups, first in the spare bedroom until their eyes open, then into the kitchen, then part of the day outside after they turn 5 weeks old, so it has not been an issue, but I would be very interested to know how you test them and what activities you do with them.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
www.refleksiongsps.com
refleksion@att.net
-----Original Message-----
From: whiteslinegsp
To: gsp-l
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
While I strongly agree that a home raised litter gets more exposure to the different smells, sounds etc. of the home and the people around them, I believe there are other influences that also develope a well adjusted puppy/dog. I truly believe the temperament of the mother has a great deal to do with the temperament of the litter since their first weeks are spent mostly with her. Hands on from day one, modified temperament test activities, I think are a wonderful help for a well adjusted puppy/dog. I also believe that regardless of where a litter is whelped and lives initially, they need as much exposure to new places, travel, sounds, surfaces and people as possible ( after they have had their shots). JMO
Carol White
-----Original Message-----
From: dise454
To: gsp-l
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne,
I have never raised a puppy in a kennel, but I would think the puppies would have much less personal interaction and less attention given to them. Ultimately this could create temperament problems if not socialized properly. I'm sure that a well run kennel would find ways to work through these challenges.
-----Original Message-----
From: reflectiongsps
To: gsp-l
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [gsp-l] New Topic
This is something I have been wondering about for quite a while...
I would be interested in knowing what other breeders feel is the difference, if any, in the mental development of a puppy that is Kennel Building raised as opposed to In Home raised.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
www.reflectiongsps.com
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I love the piano idea, never thought of that but what a great idea for noise as well as something new to play on. It's so funny to lay a book that makes sounds open on the floor and watch them run around, step on it and then try to figure out what just happened.
Carol
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From: rdlehm
To: gsp-l
Sent: Thu, Jul 14, 2011 8:52 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I visited GoodWill and other second hand stores and picked up some children's toys - especially the ones that make noise when touched. Pups interacted very well with them and the favorite was a small child's piano. They became very adept at pounding on those keys! I also used various sizes of cardboard boxes for them to climb on, jump off of, play king of the mountain. If you cut doors in the sizes, they will really explore.
Rayanne Lehman
From: reflectiongsps@aol.com
To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:20:27 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Thank you Carol, you have given me some good ideas to do with this upcoming litter. I have a 16' x 20' puppy pen that would be perfect for what you described below. I will definitely look into purchasing some play equipment for the pups to climb on and around, currently they have a huge old stump to play on, but I think the plastic equipment would definitely be a benefit. Give them new surfaces to explore and get use to... The daily handling has always been a part of what I do, but I had not thought about the individual play time and will definitely do that this time.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
www.refleksiongsps.com
refleksion@att.net
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To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 5:53 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I handle each pup every day starting on the second day, picking them up and gently laying them on thier back touching feet and ears and talking to them. From about the seventh day I take them one by one to another room and do the same thing but for about 3-5 minutes and extend the lengh of time away from their mother every week. They have a kennel run when they are old enough and the weather permits that has a large ball, a small teeter only about three inches off the ground, a milk crate, several different doors mats of different surfaces, a parking cone and a hard plastic container lid about 3X4 feet with two inches deep with water in it. I also separate the pups at approx. 4 weeks, letting them play alone for a little while and that time also increases with their age.. Crate training starts gradually around 4 weeks.
In my experience this is also good for the bitch, she has complete trust that her babies will be okay and coming back and it gives the pups a little independence.
It is a lot of work but the rewards are many.
Carol
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From: reflectiongsps < reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 8:35 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Interesting... I had not thought about the influence the mothers temperament has on a litter...would explain alot with the temperament issues I have with two of my girls...both have the same mother, and if memory serves, the first time I saw their mother, she was totally wired and uncontrollable, and was laughingly told that that was her nature. But then her mother, thinking back to when I owned her for a time, was the same way. Hmm...makes sense.
About the Modified Temperament Testing Activities...what do you do? What kind of activities? I home raise all my pups, first in the spare bedroom until their eyes open, then into the kitchen, then part of the day outside after they turn 5 weeks old, so it has not been an issue, but I would be very interested to know how you test them and what activities you do with them.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
www.refleksiongsps.com
refleksion@att.net
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From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
While I strongly agree that a home raised litter gets more exposure to the different smells, sounds etc. of the home and the people around them, I believe there are other influences that also develope a well adjusted puppy/dog. I truly believe the temperament of the mother has a great deal to do with the temperament of the litter since their first weeks are spent mostly with her. Hands on from day one, modified temperament test activities, I think are a wonderful help for a well adjusted puppy/dog. I also believe that regardless of where a litter is whelped and lives initially, they need as much exposure to new places, travel, sounds, surfaces and people as possible ( after they have had their shots). JMO
Carol White
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Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne,
I have never raised a puppy in a kennel, but I would think the puppies would have much less personal interaction and less attention given to them. Ultimately this could create temperament problems if not socialized properly. I'm sure that a well run kennel would find ways to work through these challenges.
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From: reflectiongsps < reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [gsp-l] New Topic
This is something I have been wondering about for quite a while...
I would be interested in knowing what other breeders feel is the difference, if any, in the mental development of a puppy that is Kennel Building raised as opposed to In Home raised.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
www.reflectiongsps.com
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Could everyone try to use the subject line ? This isn't "new" any longer.
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From: whiteslinegsp@aol.com
To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Sent: Thu, Jul 14, 2011 9:35 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I love the piano idea, never thought of that but what a great idea for noise as well as something new to play on. It's so funny to lay a book that makes sounds open on the floor and watch them run around, step on it and then try to figure out what just happened.
Carol
-----Original Message-----
From: rdlehm < rdlehm@comcast.net>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Thu, Jul 14, 2011 8:52 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I visited GoodWill and other second hand stores and picked up some children's toys - especially the ones that make noise when touched. Pups interacted very well with them and the favorite was a small child's piano. They became very adept at pounding on those keys! I also used various sizes of cardboard boxes for them to climb on, jump off of, play king of the mountain. If you cut doors in the sizes, they will really explore.
Rayanne Lehman
From: reflectiongsps@aol.com
To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:20:27 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Thank you Carol, you have given me some good ideas to do with this upcoming litter. I have a 16' x 20' puppy pen that would be perfect for what you described below. I will definitely look into purchasing some play equipment for the pups to climb on and around, currently they have a huge old stump to play on, but I think the plastic equipment would definitely be a benefit. Give them new surfaces to explore and get use to... The daily handling has always been a part of what I do, but I had not thought about the individual play time and will definitely do that this time.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
www.refleksiongsps.com
refleksion@att.net
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From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 5:53 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I handle each pup every day starting on the second day, picking them up and gently laying them on thier back touching feet and ears and talking to them. From about the seventh day I take them one by one to another room and do the same thing but for about 3-5 minutes and extend the lengh of time away from their mother every week. They have a kennel run when they are old enough and the weather permits that has a large ball, a small teeter only about three inches off the ground, a milk crate, several different doors mats of different surfaces, a parking cone and a hard plastic container lid about 3X4 feet with two inches deep with water in it. I also separate the pups at approx. 4 weeks, letting them play alone for a little while and that time also increases with their age.. Crate training starts gradually around 4 weeks.
In my experience this is also good for the bitch, she has complete trust that her babies will be okay and coming back and it gives the pups a little independence.
It is a lot of work but the rewards are many.
Carol
-----Original Message-----
From: reflectiongsps < reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 8:35 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Interesting... I had not thought about the influence the mothers temperament has on a litter...would explain alot with the temperament issues I have with two of my girls...both have the same mother, and if memory serves, the first time I saw their mother, she was totally wired and uncontrollable, and was laughingly told that that was her nature. But then her mother, thinking back to when I owned her for a time, was the same way. Hmm...makes sense.
About the Modified Temperament Testing Activities...what do you do? What kind of activities? I home raise all my pups, first in the spare bedroom until their eyes open, then into the kitchen, then part of the day outside after they turn 5 weeks old, so it has not been an issue, but I would be very interested to know how you test them and what activities you do with them.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
www.refleksiongsps.com
refleksion@att.net
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From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
While I strongly agree that a home raised litter gets more exposure to the different smells, sounds etc. of the home and the people around them, I believe there are other influences that also develope a well adjusted puppy/dog. I truly believe the temperament of the mother has a great deal to do with the temperament of the litter since their first weeks are spent mostly with her. Hands on from day one, modified temperament test activities, I think are a wonderful help for a well adjusted puppy/dog. I also believe that regardless of where a litter is whelped and lives initially, they need as much exposure to new places, travel, sounds, surfaces and people as possible ( after they have had their shots). JMO
Carol White
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From: dise454 < dise454@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne,
I have never raised a puppy in a kennel, but I would think the puppies would have much less personal interaction and less attention given to them. Ultimately this could create temperament problems if not socialized properly. I'm sure that a well run kennel would find ways to work through these challenges.
-----Original Message-----
From: reflectiongsps < reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [gsp-l] New Topic
This is something I have been wondering about for quite a while...
I would be interested in knowing what other breeders feel is the difference, if any, in the mental development of a puppy that is Kennel Building raised as opposed to In Home raised.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
www.reflectiongsps.com
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With both of my lab litters, as soon as they got
their eyes open and up on their feet, the x-pen came into the living room
area. I bought a cat tunnel from Pet Edge http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2825359560054451809OeASIi that
made crinkling sound when they got in it. They LOVED it and slept in it
most of the time. As they got a little older ,made a figure 8 out of two
xpens. Bought two tunnels (look like small agility tunnels from the
cat section at the everything $1 store). One area was the play area and
other sleep area. Would alternate putting tunnel or bungee with toys
dangling in the pass through area. Made minature dogwalk and teeter out of
small piece of wood with superglued PVC pipe underneath it. (Be careful not
enough area underneath for body or head to get caught under). Was fun to
watch these puppies play as early as 3 weeks. Spent less than $20 on all
of it and well worth it for puppies going to performance homes.
Martha Veatch
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ooh the development of the tunnel sucking GSP
I own
one !!!
judy
--- On Wed, 7/13/11, dorothy thompson
<invernessgsp@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
From:
dorothy thompson <invernessgsp@bellsouth.net>
Subject:
Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
To: "gsp-l@shorthairs.net" <gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Date:
Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 6:38 PM
you can also get some neat tunnels at toys are us or one of
those type stores, for about $10, they are great, and they flatten and
tie flat for storage; I had one for Hemi & Shimmer's litter, then
put it away until this litter, and he loves it, runs back and forth
thru it, takes naps in it and drags it all over the
porch.
Dorothy H. Thompson
From: "reflectiongsps@aol.com"
To:
gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011
5:04 PM
Subject: Re:
[gsp-l] New Topic
Thanks Sandra, I will do that...LOL! We have scrap wood from
when we built the barn and of course, loads of old tennis balls
in the yard...
Anne M
Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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To: gsp-l
Cc: Mariahgsps
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 1:02
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Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne -- You can easily make a little teeter by taking a square of
1/4 inch plywood (I think 24 inches comes pre-cut at Home Depot) --
put an old tennis ball underneath in the middle -- drive a large nail
into the ball where it touches the board.Won't last forever, but
certainly long enough for the puppies to outgrow it. It's
amazing how quickly they start to run right over it -- clompity
clomp -- without even noticing that it moved.
Sandra
Thank you Carol, you have given me some good ideas to do with
this upcoming litter. I have a 16' x 20' puppy pen that would
be perfect for what you described below. I will definitely
look into purchasing some play equipment for the pups to climb on
and around, currently they have a huge old stump to play on, but I
think the plastic equipment would definitely be a
benefit. Give them new surfaces to explore and get use
to... The daily handling has always been a part of what
I do, but I had not thought about the individual play time and will
definitely do that this time.
Anne
M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
refleksion@att.net
-----Original Message-----
From: whiteslinegsp <whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To:
gsp-l <gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent:
Wed, Jul 13, 2011 5:53 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New
Topic
I handle each pup every day starting on the second day, picking
them up and gently laying them on thier back touching feet and ears
and talking to them. From about the seventh day I take them one by
one to another room and do the same thing but for about 3-5 minutes
and extend the lengh of time away from their mother every week. They
have a kennel run when they are old enough and the weather permits
that has a large ball, a small teeter only about three
inches off the ground, a milk crate, several different doors mats of
different surfaces, a parking cone and a hard plastic container lid
about 3X4 feet with two inches deep with water in it. I
also separate the pups at approx. 4 weeks, letting them play
alone for a little while and that time also increases with their
age.. Crate training starts gradually around 4 weeks.
In my experience this is also good for the bitch, she has
complete trust that her babies will be okay and coming back and it
gives the pups a little independence.
It is a lot of work but the rewards are many.
Carol
Interesting... I had not thought about the influence the
mothers temperament has on a litter...would explain alot with the
temperament issues I have with two of my girls...both have the same
mother, and if memory serves, the first time I saw their mother, she
was totally wired and uncontrollable, and was laughingly told that
that was her nature. But then her mother, thinking back to when I
owned her for a time, was the same way. Hmm...makes
sense.
About the Modified Temperament Testing
Activities...what do you do? What kind of activities? I
home raise all my pups, first in the spare bedroom until their eyes
open, then into the kitchen, then part of the day outside after they
turn 5 weeks old, so it has not been an issue, but I would be very
interested to know how you test them and what activities you do with
them.
Anne
M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
-----Original
Message----- From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com> To:
gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net> Sent:
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
While I
strongly agree that a home raised litter gets more exposure to the
different smells, sounds etc. of the home and the
people around them, I believe there are other influences that
also develope a well adjusted puppy/dog. I truly believe the
temperament of the mother has a great deal to do with the
temperament of the litter since their first weeks are spent
mostly with her. Hands on from day one, modified temperament
test activities, I think are a wonderful help for a well adjusted
puppy/dog. I also believe that regardless of where
a litter is whelped and lives initially, they need as
much exposure to new places, travel, sounds, surfaces and people
as possible ( after they have had their shots).
JMO
Carol White
-----Original
Message----- From: dise454 < dise454@aol.com> To:
gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net> Sent:
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:12 pm Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne,
I have never raised a puppy in a kennel, but I would think the
puppies would have much less personal interaction and less attention
given to them. Ultimately this could create temperament
problems if not socialized properly. I'm sure that a
well run kennel would find ways to work through these challenges.
-----Original
Message-----
From:
reflectiongsps < reflectiongsps@aol.com> To:
gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net> Sent:
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:34 pm Subject: [gsp-l] New Topic
This is something I have been wondering about for quite a
while...
I would be interested in knowing what other breeders feel is
the difference, if any, in the mental development of a puppy
that is Kennel Building raised as opposed to In Home
raised.
Anne
M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
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Ann
Funny, I thought since it was the same subject and a responce to Rayanne's e-mail a new subject line was not needed.....silly me
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Wallace
To: gsp-l
Sent: Thu, Jul 14, 2011 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Could everyone try to use the subject line ? This isn't "new" any longer.
-----Original Message-----
From: whiteslinegsp@aol.com
To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Sent: Thu, Jul 14, 2011 9:35 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I love the piano idea, never thought of that but what a great idea for noise as well as something new to play on. It's so funny to lay a book that makes sounds open on the floor and watch them run around, step on it and then try to figure out what just happened.
Carol
-----Original Message-----
From: rdlehm < rdlehm@comcast.net>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Thu, Jul 14, 2011 8:52 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I visited GoodWill and other second hand stores and picked up some children's toys - especially the ones that make noise when touched. Pups interacted very well with them and the favorite was a small child's piano. They became very adept at pounding on those keys! I also used various sizes of cardboard boxes for them to climb on, jump off of, play king of the mountain. If you cut doors in the sizes, they will really explore.
Rayanne Lehman
From: reflectiongsps@aol.com
To: gsp-l@shorthairs.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:20:27 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Thank you Carol, you have given me some good ideas to do with this upcoming litter. I have a 16' x 20' puppy pen that would be perfect for what you described below. I will definitely look into purchasing some play equipment for the pups to climb on and around, currently they have a huge old stump to play on, but I think the plastic equipment would definitely be a benefit. Give them new surfaces to explore and get use to... The daily handling has always been a part of what I do, but I had not thought about the individual play time and will definitely do that this time.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
www.refleksiongsps.com
refleksion@att.net
-----Original Message-----
From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 5:53 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
I handle each pup every day starting on the second day, picking them up and gently laying them on thier back touching feet and ears and talking to them. From about the seventh day I take them one by one to another room and do the same thing but for about 3-5 minutes and extend the lengh of time away from their mother every week. They have a kennel run when they are old enough and the weather permits that has a large ball, a small teeter only about three inches off the ground, a milk crate, several different doors mats of different surfaces, a parking cone and a hard plastic container lid about 3X4 feet with two inches deep with water in it. I also separate the pups at approx. 4 weeks, letting them play alone for a little while and that time also increases with their age.. Crate training starts gradually around 4 weeks.
In my experience this is also good for the bitch, she has complete trust that her babies will be okay and coming back and it gives the pups a little independence.
It is a lot of work but the rewards are many.
Carol
-----Original Message-----
From: reflectiongsps < reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 8:35 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Interesting... I had not thought about the influence the mothers temperament has on a litter...would explain alot with the temperament issues I have with two of my girls...both have the same mother, and if memory serves, the first time I saw their mother, she was totally wired and uncontrollable, and was laughingly told that that was her nature. But then her mother, thinking back to when I owned her for a time, was the same way. Hmm...makes sense.
About the Modified Temperament Testing Activities...what do you do? What kind of activities? I home raise all my pups, first in the spare bedroom until their eyes open, then into the kitchen, then part of the day outside after they turn 5 weeks old, so it has not been an issue, but I would be very interested to know how you test them and what activities you do with them.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
www.refleksiongsps.com
refleksion@att.net
-----Original Message-----
From: whiteslinegsp < whiteslinegsp@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
While I strongly agree that a home raised litter gets more exposure to the different smells, sounds etc. of the home and the people around them, I believe there are other influences that also develope a well adjusted puppy/dog. I truly believe the temperament of the mother has a great deal to do with the temperament of the litter since their first weeks are spent mostly with her. Hands on from day one, modified temperament test activities, I think are a wonderful help for a well adjusted puppy/dog. I also believe that regardless of where a litter is whelped and lives initially, they need as much exposure to new places, travel, sounds, surfaces and people as possible ( after they have had their shots). JMO
Carol White
-----Original Message-----
From: dise454 < dise454@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] New Topic
Anne,
I have never raised a puppy in a kennel, but I would think the puppies would have much less personal interaction and less attention given to them. Ultimately this could create temperament problems if not socialized properly. I'm sure that a well run kennel would find ways to work through these challenges.
-----Original Message-----
From: reflectiongsps < reflectiongsps@aol.com>
To: gsp-l < gsp-l@shorthairs.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [gsp-l] New Topic
This is something I have been wondering about for quite a while...
I would be interested in knowing what other breeders feel is the difference, if any, in the mental development of a puppy that is Kennel Building raised as opposed to In Home raised.
Anne M Cohen ~ Refleksion, reg.
www.reflectiongsps.com
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