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JimandeeGSP
Posts:18
07/19/2007 11:21 AM
Having exhibited solid livers in conformation "in the day" when they were truly the exception in the ring, I have personally witnessed outstanding liver specimens being "passed over" to an obviously inferior ticked exhibit in recent years.
I have had the opportunity to chat with some judges who made those choices (not as an exhibitor of liver on that day, mind you). Some have been very candid on their reasoning, stating they just flat don't like liver, others have said they didn't know if it was a correct color. Imagine that!
Judges are in the unique position to drive the quality of any breed that they judge. To award an obviously inferior animal over color defeats all the hard work and equally hard decisions we make with our breeding programs, but it does happen!
I would be remiss to not add, that as a result of these types of judging decisions it has created another issue we have all been witness to, the novice owner who justifies his/her decision to breed an inferior animal because of that blue ribbon, in turn selling those animals to other novices who continue that practice despite attempts to mentor these individuals.
While this does not answer the question as to why this continually happens, it acknowledges that it does.
Jan McManigal
Jimandee, reg.
Unwillyn
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Posts:183
07/19/2007 12:29 PM
In a message dated 7/19/07 10:14:04 AM, JimandeeGSP@cs.com writes:
Having exhibited solid livers in conformation "in the day" when they were truly the exception in the ring, I have personally witnessed outstanding liver specimens being "passed over" to an obviously inferior ticked exhibit in recent years.
Jan,
I know you can say the same thing about those "white" entries too !!! ha ha ... We've both seen any number of questionable judging situations over the years, "too big", "too small", "too dark", "too light", and other judge comments that make us bite our tongues.
Yes, Even the occasional "solid liver judge", for whom the solid liver entries suddenly come out of the woodwork, and who subsequently ignores ticked or white dogs as much as humanly possible.
That's why we try to support judges who judge to the "Standard" and have demonstrated that distractions such as light or dark color, who's on the lead, etc., are of little concern in their placements.
But, to be fair, we've also seen exhibitors whining and moaning about their wonderful GSP being dumped by that "ignorant" judge because it was solid liver or some other imagined issue, when in fact, it was simply presented poorly, or moved like a Terrier, or was not very competitive with the rest of the entry.
In other words, we've seen it all !!!
That's why, at the end of the quest, a championship's value must still be evaluated by knowledgeable people who can look past all the nonsense, and see the dog simply for what it is in relationship to the Standard, and how it's pedigree congeals with a prospective mate.
Judges don't have to live with consequences of their actions, but breeders do .......
Paul
UnWillyn German Shorthairs
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