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Almost Heaven GSP
Springfield, WV
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| 05/14/2008 9:49 AM |
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| My .02, take it for what it is worth, but I'm betting the pup is an F2
Lab cross/ooops.
Thanx Kindly and Have A Great Day,
Bruce Shaffer
Quoting cathyyak@aol.com:
> http://littlehunterkennels.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/scan00011.jpg
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> Remember the song on Sesame Street??
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> "One of these things in not like the others.
> One of these things just doesn't belong.
> Can you guess which thing is not like the others.
> Before I finish my song?"
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> But seriously, can anyone believe this is a purebred GSP?? Likely
> one of the parents is actually not a purebred GSP, and the proof is
> in the puppy.? Like the silver weims...
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> Cathy
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Bruce Shaffer
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chexsix
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| 05/14/2008 12:57 PM |
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| Just a thought, as it pertains to the coat color genetics. To my
knowledge the purebred GSP carries the gene locus "E" (extension)
meaning the dark pigment is over the entire coat not just in "masking"
which is "E m" but not the allele "e".
The alleles "e" is for the colors red or yellow which I believe is
found in the Pointer breed and not just the solid black. We need to
be careful to make sure we are talking about GSP genetics and not
those found in other breeds as is the case the one AKC judge that
continues to insist one can find black hairs intermingled with the
liver discounting the nose color because he is referencing his breed's
coat color genetics, i.e. Cocker Spaniels and applying it to the GSP.
That said if a GSP is bred to a breed, i.e. the Pointer or Lab that
carried the alllele for the "e" then there is the potential for that
color to be expressed in the pups down the line. I am aware of one
GSP several generations ago that carried the small "e" and when dogs
from this line were bred to one another whose pedigrees that traced
back to this particular GSP had the potential to produce lemon pups.
Patte Titus
CheckSix Shorthairs
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| 05/14/2008 1:01 PM |
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A few years ago, I was at a youth pheasant hunt for Pheasants Forever
(Ohio). There was a guy selling lab/gsp puppies outside one of the
entrances during lunch. He told my husband it was an intentional
breeding. I can't say what his name was or what lines the dogs were
out of. My husband was not keen on my talking to this guy, fearing it would put
me into early labor. The pups, I did see were solid liver.
The following year, a kid in my husband's group brought his dog along. It
was one of the lab/gsp crosses from the following year. Heavier boned, lighter
coat than a lab but not quite a GSP coat, more of a gsp head type than a
labs.
Carol S.
----- Original Message -----
In a message dated 5/14/2008 8:59:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
canebrake1@comcast.net writes:
yellow GSP hmmmmmmm???? Lab x GSP =
awesome agility dog ..... JUST
KIDDING! The two are great breeds SEPARATELY
All kidding aside, I hope noone would seriously
breed the two on purpose...
Martha
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canebrake1
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Patte as always thank for the information on genetics. You are a
great asset to the breed with your knowledge.
For those who like to read interesting articles
LRC position on pointing labs -
A couple of interesting articles on color coats
have a good day.
Martha
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:26
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Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow
shorthair
A few years ago, I was at a youth pheasant hunt for Pheasants Forever
(Ohio). There was a guy selling lab/gsp puppies outside one of the
entrances during lunch. He told my husband it was an intentional
breeding. I can't say what his name was or what lines the dogs were
out of. My husband was not keen on my talking to this guy, fearing it would
put me into early labor. The pups, I did see were solid liver.
The following year, a kid in my husband's group brought his dog along. It
was one of the lab/gsp crosses from the following year. Heavier boned, lighter
coat than a lab but not quite a GSP coat, more of a gsp head type than a
labs.
Carol S.
----- Original Message -----
In a message dated 5/14/2008 8:59:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
canebrake1@comcast.net writes:
yellow GSP hmmmmmmm???? Lab x GSP
= awesome agility dog ..... JUST
KIDDING! The two are great breeds SEPARATELY
All kidding aside, I hope noone would
seriously breed the two on purpose...
Martha
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on-point
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it almost looks like he has three different litters and he is trying to
sale them as one. I used Cathy's link so all I saw was the pic
Jake
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:48
AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow
shorthair
http://littlehunterkennels.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/scan00011.jpg
Remember
the song on Sesame Street?
"One of these things in not like the
others.
One of these things just doesn't belong.
Can you guess which
thing is not like the others.
Before I finish my song?"
But
seriously, can anyone believe this is a purebred GSP? Likely one of the
parents is actually not a purebred GSP, and the proof is in the puppy.
Like the silver weims...
Cathy
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Gspdoo
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Use Cathy's link below, then click on Our Dogs and scroll down to
"Maynard" This must be one of their stud dogs -- sure tells you where the yellow
is coming from.
I can't tell where these folks are located, but it appears they are quite
involved in Shorthairs -- they have AKC titles on some of their dogs, and NAVHDA
on others -- an upcoming litter will be sired by a dog with a MH. So they aren't
novices -- one might think that they didn't know how a yellow puppy got into
this litter -- but they are also showing an adult yellow dog, so they have been
producing this for some time????? Yikes!!!!
Sandra Kretz
MARIAH
In a message dated 5/14/2008 11:00:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cathyyak@aol.com writes:
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mountaindogs
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| 05/14/2008 8:21 PM |
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"Maynard" is Alvin The Little Hunter. The litter was born in 2007 and if
you check the previous litters page you see that "Alvin The Little Hunter" is
puppy #6, and I believe this is just that same puppy grown up. ??
In a message dated 5/14/2008 8:51:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Gspdoo@aol.com writes:
Use Cathy's link below, then click on Our Dogs and scroll down to
"Maynard" This must be one of their stud dogs -- sure tells you where the
yellow is coming from.
I can't tell where these folks are located, but it appears they are quite
involved in Shorthairs -- they have AKC titles on some of their dogs, and
NAVHDA on others -- an upcoming litter will be sired by a dog with a MH. So
they aren't novices -- one might think that they didn't know how a yellow
puppy got into this litter -- but they are also showing an adult yellow dog,
so they have been producing this for some time????? Yikes!!!!
Sandra Kretz
MARIAH
In a message dated 5/14/2008 11:00:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cathyyak@aol.com writes:
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mountaindogs
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Sorry puppy # 1, actually
In a message dated 5/14/2008 8:51:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Gspdoo@aol.com writes:
Use Cathy's link below, then click on Our Dogs and scroll down to
"Maynard" This must be one of their stud dogs -- sure tells you where the
yellow is coming from.
I can't tell where these folks are located, but it appears they are quite
involved in Shorthairs -- they have AKC titles on some of their dogs, and
NAVHDA on others -- an upcoming litter will be sired by a dog with a MH. So
they aren't novices -- one might think that they didn't know how a yellow
puppy got into this litter -- but they are also showing an adult yellow dog,
so they have been producing this for some time????? Yikes!!!!
Sandra Kretz
MARIAH
In a message dated 5/14/2008 11:00:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cathyyak@aol.com writes:
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Gspdoo
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Yes, I believe you are right.
Sandra
In a message dated 5/14/2008 10:10:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Mountainbirddogs@aol.com writes:
Maynard"
is Alvin The Little Hunter. The litter was born in 2007 and if you check the
previous litters page you see that "Alvin The Little Hunter" is puppy #6, and
I believe this is just that same puppy grown up. ??
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| 05/14/2008 10:36 PM |
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So maybe this is a stupid question but would it not make perfect sense for
the GSPCA put up the money to the AKC to have this investigated?
James
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:50
PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow
shorthair
Use Cathy's link below, then click on Our Dogs and scroll down to
"Maynard" This must be one of their stud dogs -- sure tells you where the
yellow is coming from.
I can't tell where these folks are located, but it appears they are quite
involved in Shorthairs -- they have AKC titles on some of their dogs, and
NAVHDA on others -- an upcoming litter will be sired by a dog with a MH. So
they aren't novices -- one might think that they didn't know how a yellow
puppy got into this litter -- but they are also showing an adult yellow dog,
so they have been producing this for some time????? Yikes!!!!
Sandra Kretz
MARIAH
In a message dated 5/14/2008 11:00:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cathyyak@aol.com writes:
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Garbonita
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| 05/14/2008 11:39 PM |
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Maybe a stupid question???? Why doesn't someone call this
person & ask what is up with the yellow gsp????
Anita
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:54
PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow
shorthair
So maybe this is a stupid question but would it not make perfect sense
for the GSPCA put up the money to the AKC to have this investigated?
James
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:50
PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow
shorthair
Use Cathy's link below, then click on Our Dogs and scroll down to
"Maynard" This must be one of their stud dogs -- sure tells you where the
yellow is coming from.
I can't tell where these folks are located, but it appears they are
quite involved in Shorthairs -- they have AKC titles on some of their dogs,
and NAVHDA on others -- an upcoming litter will be sired by a dog with a MH.
So they aren't novices -- one might think that they didn't know how a yellow
puppy got into this litter -- but they are also showing an adult yellow dog,
so they have been producing this for some time????? Yikes!!!!
Sandra Kretz
MARIAH
In a message dated 5/14/2008 11:00:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cathyyak@aol.com writes:
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legacykennels1
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not sure that common sense and the AKC go hand in hand.....lol...someone wrote on one of the boards that it appeared on that the AKC was already investigating...I dont know how you could confirm that information. Donna
James wrote: So maybe this is a stupid question but would it not make perfect sense for the GSPCA put up the money to the AKC to have this investigated? James ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow shorthair
Use Cathy's link below, then click on Our Dogs and scroll down to "Maynard" This must be one of their stud dogs -- sure tells you where the yellow is coming from. I can't tell where these folks are located, but it appears they are quite involved in Shorthairs -- they have AKC titles on some of their dogs, and NAVHDA on others -- an upcoming litter will be sired
by a dog with a MH. So they aren't novices -- one might think that they didn't know how a yellow puppy got into this litter -- but they are also showing an adult yellow dog, so they have been producing this for some time????? Yikes!!!! Sandra Kretz MARIAH In a message dated 5/14/2008 11:00:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cathyyak@aol.com writes:
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ingeclody
San Diego
MH
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| 05/15/2008 7:36 AM |
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According to Reverse Phone number lookup, they are located in Baker, Oregon. Randy Moore, 46308 Cook Rd., Baker Oregon
Anita & Gary Weiss <1gba@citlink.net> wrote:
Maybe a stupid question???? Why doesn't someone call this person & ask what is up with the yellow gsp???? Anita ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow shorthair
So maybe this is a stupid question but would it not make perfect sense for the GSPCA put up the money to the AKC to have this investigated? James ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow shorthair
Use Cathy's link below, then click on Our Dogs and scroll down to "Maynard" This must be one of their stud dogs -- sure tells you where the yellow is coming from. I can't tell where these folks are located, but it appears they are quite involved in Shorthairs -- they have AKC titles on some of their dogs, and NAVHDA on others -- an upcoming litter will be sired by a dog with a MH.
So they aren't novices -- one might think that they didn't know how a yellow puppy got into this litter -- but they are also showing an adult yellow dog, so they have been producing this for some time????? Yikes!!!! Sandra Kretz MARIAH In a message dated 5/14/2008 11:00:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cathyyak@aol.com writes:
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legacykennels1
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if you go to versatiledogs.com website there are updates on the matter...even as a puppy he has yellow highlights...Donna
Inge wrote: According to Reverse Phone number lookup, they are located in Baker, Oregon. Randy Moore, 46308 Cook Rd., Baker Oregon
Anita & Gary Weiss <1gba@citlink.net> wrote:
Maybe a stupid question???? Why doesn't someone call this person & ask what is up with the yellow gsp????
Anita ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow shorthair
So maybe this is a stupid question but would it not make perfect sense for the GSPCA put up the money to the AKC to have this investigated? James -----
Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow shorthair
Use Cathy's link below, then click on Our Dogs and scroll down to "Maynard" This must be one of their stud dogs -- sure tells you where the
yellow is coming from. I can't tell where these folks are located, but it appears they are quite involved in Shorthairs -- they have AKC titles on some of their dogs, and NAVHDA on others -- an upcoming litter will be sired by a dog with a MH. So they aren't novices -- one might think that they didn't know how a yellow puppy got into this litter -- but they are also showing an adult yellow dog, so they have been producing this for some time????? Yikes!!!! Sandra Kretz MARIAH In a message dated 5/14/2008 11:00:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cathyyak@aol.com writes:
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Tracy Novoa
Western NY
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The only way he'd "turn" yellow is if he laid in urine. My white GSP loves the sun and never turned yellow.
Tracy
-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Spinelli
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 11:14 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow shorthair
if you go to versatiledogs.com website there are updates on the matter...even as a puppy he has yellow highlights...Donna
Inge <ingeclody@yahoo.com> wrote:
According to Reverse Phone number lookup, they are located in Baker, Oregon.
Randy Moore, 46308 Cook Rd., Baker Oregon
Maybe a stupid question???? Why doesn't someone call this person & ask what is up with the yellow gsp????
Anita
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow shorthair
So maybe this is a stupid question but would it not make perfect sense for the GSPCA put up the money to the AKC to have this investigated?
James
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow shorthair
Use Cathy's link below, then click on Our Dogs and scroll down to "Maynard" This must be one of their stud dogs -- sure tells you where the yellow is coming from.
I can't tell where these folks are located, but it appears they are quite involved in Shorthairs -- they have AKC titles on some of their dogs, and NAVHDA on others -- an upcoming litter will be sired by a dog with a MH. So they aren't novices -- one might think that they didn't know how a yellow puppy got into this litter -- but they are also showing an adult yellow dog, so they have been producing this for some time????? Yikes!!!!
Sandra Kretz
MARIAH
In a message dated 5/14/2008 11:00:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cathyyak@aol.com writes:
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mountaindogs
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| 05/15/2008 10:29 AM |
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Now that I look closer, the ears are darker in the puppy pic too.  hmm.
Not a good sign. Would you not think, that if this breeder really felt that this
was a naturally occurring "clear" white, that they would be jumping at the
chance to do DNA to prove it and stop all this speculation? From another board I
heard that AKC did investigate and the breeder involved a lawyer.
IF I were dealing with any doubt about parentage
(Heaven forbid, please! ), I would be DNA testing right
away to figure it out. Clear it all up. I mean even if they did have a Lab get
in the mix, they could clear the other dogs in their line by figuring out what
happened and being open about it. Seems to me anyway. 
In a message dated 5/15/2008 11:05:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
gspfreak@aol.com writes:
The only way he'd "turn" yellow is if he laid in urine. My white
GSP loves the sun and never turned yellow.
Tracy
-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Spinelli
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Thu, 15
May 2008 11:14 am
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow shorthair
if you go to
versatiledogs.com website there are updates on the matter...even as a puppy he
has yellow highlights...Donna Inge <ingeclody@yahoo.com> wrote:
According to Reverse Phone number lookup, they are located in Baker,
Oregon.
Randy Moore, 46308 Cook Rd., Baker
Oregon
Maybe a stupid question???? Why doesn't someone call
this person & ask what is up with the yellow gsp????
Anita
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:54
PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow
shorthair
So maybe this is a stupid question but would it not make perfect
sense for the GSPCA put up the money to the AKC to have this
investigated?
James
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008
7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow
shorthair
Use Cathy's link below, then click on Our Dogs and scroll
down to "Maynard" This must be one of their stud dogs -- sure tells
you where the yellow is coming from.
I can't tell where these folks are located, but it appears they
are quite involved in Shorthairs -- they have AKC titles on some of
their dogs, and NAVHDA on others -- an upcoming litter will be sired
by a dog with a MH. So they aren't novices -- one might think that
they didn't know how a yellow puppy got into this litter -- but they
are also showing an adult yellow dog, so they have been producing this
for some time????? Yikes!!!!
Sandra Kretz
MARIAH
In a message dated 5/14/2008 11:00:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cathyyak@aol.com writes:
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Chehalem Mtn GSP
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Hi All .. I'm just catching up on this this topic. My ears
really perked up when his location was mentioned. I've had an opportunity
to look at the picture Cathy linked, but haven't had a chance to navigate all of
his web site.
He is not a member of the GSP Club of Oregon.
His name does not ring a bell as a breeder.
Since he has AKC titles on his dogs I might have judged his dogs at AKC
hunt tests.
We have never seen a "yellow" GSP at any hunt tests we have
judged here in Oregon.
Baker, Oregon is 320 miles east of the Portland area (a good 5 plus
hour drive from me)
At least I don't recall his name coming up as the breeder on any of the
Rescue dogs I have placed through the GSP club.
Patti Goodding
Chehalem Mtn GSP's
In a message dated 5/15/2008 8:15:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
legacykennels1@verizon.net writes:
if you
go to versatiledogs.com website there are updates on the matter...even as a
puppy he has yellow highlights...Donna
Inge
wrote:
According to Reverse Phone number lookup, they are located in Baker,
Oregon.
Randy Moore, 46308 Cook Rd., Baker
Oregon
Anita & Gary Weiss <1gba@citlink.net>
wrote:
Maybe a stupid question???? Why doesn't someone call
this person & ask what is up with the yellow gsp????
Anita
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:54
PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow
shorthair
So maybe this is a stupid question but would it not make perfect
sense for the GSPCA put up the money to the AKC to have this
investigated?
James
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008
7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow
shorthair
Use Cathy's link below, then click on Our Dogs and scroll
down to "Maynard" This must be one of their stud dogs -- sure tells
you where the yellow is coming from.
I can't tell where these folks are located, but it appears they
are quite involved in Shorthairs -- they have AKC titles on some of
their dogs, and NAVHDA on others -- an upcoming litter will be sired
by a dog with a MH. So they aren't novices -- one might think that
they didn't know how a yellow puppy got into this litter -- but they
are also showing an adult yellow dog, so they have been producing this
for some time????? Yikes!!!!
Sandra Kretz
MARIAH
In a message dated 5/14/2008 11:00:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cathyyak@aol.com writes:
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mountaindogs
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In a message dated 5/15/2008 11:28:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
OregonGSP@aol.com writes:
Since he has AKC titles on his dogs I might have judged his dogs at AKC
hunt tests.
I have heard that other littermates to that one were running JH this Spring
and several were almost finished or finished. ??? Still hearsay as I heard it on
another board.
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I believe this breeder is located in Minnesota.
From: OregonGSP@aol.com
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 12:26:40 -0400
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow shorthair
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Hi All .. I'm just catching up on this this topic. My ears really perked up when his location was mentioned. I've had an opportunity to look at the picture Cathy linked, but haven't had a chance to navigate all of his web site.
He is not a member of the GSP Club of Oregon.
Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. IM anytime you're online.
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CathyYak
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| 05/15/2008 10:56 AM |
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Hey accidents happen. These are not inanimate objects we are talking about. And Mother nature likes to remind us we don't know as much as we thought we knew. The question is how does a breeder respond when they are thrown a curve ball. In the past too many have scurried to cover it up. But with the appearance of the Internet, now someone always knows! It is better to just stand up, take responsibility and do the right thing for the breed, not just for yourself. I would never criticize any breeder who does so. In fact I would applaud them for looking out for the integrity of the stud book and the future purity of the breed.
Sometimes people mean well, they just don't have a great grasp or genetics, or the breed history. We need to gently educate, not slap people around. Didn't teach me much when Sister Anne cracked my knuckles with a ruler besides stay the heck away from Sister Anne.
Fear of censure is a big part of why people fail to do the right thing. And we are to partially to blame for that if we are not supportive, right?
Cathy
-----Original Message-----
From: Mountainbirddogs@aol.com
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 12:16 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow shorthair
Now that I look closer, the ears are darker in the puppy pic too. hmm. Not a good sign. Would you not think, that if this breeder really felt that this was a naturally occurring "clear" white, that they would be jumping at the chance to do DNA to prove it and stop all this speculation? From another board I heard that AKC did investigate and the breeder involved a lawyer.
IF I were dealing with any doubt about parentage (Heaven forbid, please! ), I would be DNA testing right away to figure it out. Clear it all up. I mean even if they did have a Lab get in the mix, they could clear the other dogs in their line by figuring out what happened and being open about it. Seems to me anyway.
In a message dated 5/15/2008 11:05:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, gspfreak@aol.com writes:
The only way he'd "turn" yellow is if he laid in urine. My white GSP loves the sun and never turned yellow.
if you go to versatiledogs.com website there are updates on the matter...even as a puppy he has yellow highlights...Donna
Inge <ingeclody@yahoo.com> wrote:
According to Reverse Phone number lookup, they are located in Baker, Oregon.
Randy Moore, 46308 Cook Rd., Baker Oregon
Maybe a stupid question???? Why doesn't someone call this person & ask what is up with the yellow gsp????
Anita
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow shorthair
So maybe this is a stupid question but would it not make perfect sense for the GSPCA put up the money to the AKC to have this investigated?
James
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] yellow shorthair
Use Cathy's link below, then click on Our Dogs and scroll down to "Maynard" This must be one of their stud dogs -- sure tells you where the yellow is coming from.
I can't tell where these folks are located, but it appears they are quite involved in Shorthairs -- they have AKC titles on some of their dogs, and NAVHDA on others -- an upcoming litter will be sired by a dog with a MH. So they aren't novices -- one might think that they didn't know how a yellow puppy got into this litter -- but they are also showing an adult yellow dog, so they have been producing this for some time????? Yikes!!!!
Sandra Kretz
MARIAH
In a message dated 5/14/2008 11:00:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cathyyak@aol.com writes:
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Cathy Iacopelli
Claddagh Kennels
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