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Adam
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| 04/04/2008 9:41 AM |
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| So sorta back to the original question if this person
entered his/her dog in veterans and in breed if at
the show she decided to not show in veterans and was
"absent" can she still show in breed?
Adam
--- Phyllis McNall
wrote:
> Too bad. And really bad advice too...
> Once a dog has entered the ring for a specific
> class, it has to continue to compete in the class,
> etc., but can be pulled from later classes, if
> double entered, not only in order to prevent
> something like this happening, but what if the dog
> becomes ill, hurts a foot, or something happens that
> it just can't be there later on.... That's always
> been the rule.
>
> Oh well, at least she got BOW. (Did she not also
> receive an AOM ?)
>
> Phyllis McNall
> Singltrak Shorthairs...home to Best In Show, Dual
> Champion German Shorthaired Pointers
> Las Cruces, New Mexico
> From: CRYSTALKENNELS@aol.com
>
> We tried pulling her from from the hunting
> bitch class and were told we HAD to show her in
> Hunting bitch class by someone on the board for the
> GSPCA when we questioned it.........that's how that
> all came about at the 2004 NSS..................
>
> Judy Zeigler
> Jim and Gloria Eustace
>
>
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CathyYak
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| 04/04/2008 9:45 AM |
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Does this pertain equally to regular and non regular classes?
Cathy
-----Original Message-----
From: Berihill
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
There is an AKC rule that a dog once it competes at a given show, must continue to compete in all class for which it is entered or becomes eligible. I just had this happen to me not too long ago and received a letter from AKC ;-). If the bitch who won WB at NSS not shown up for Hunting bitch...her WB award would have been diallowed. I don't think the owner would have wanted that! The rule book is available online at AKC site.
----- Original Message ----
From: Phyllis McNall < singltrak@singltrakshorthairs.com>
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 11:12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
Too bad. And really bad advice too...
Once a dog has entered the ring for a specific class, it has to continue to compete in the class, etc., but can be pulled from later classes, if double entered, not only in order to prevent something like this happening, but what if the dog becomes ill, hurts a foot, or something happens that it just can't be there later on.... That's always been the rule.
Oh well, at least she got BOW. (Did she not also receive an AOM ?)
Phyllis McNall
Singltrak Shorthairs...home to Best In Show, Dual Champion German Shorthaired Pointers
Las Cruces, New Mexico
We tried pulling her from from the hunting bitch class and were told we HAD to show her in Hunting bitch class by someone on the board for the GSPCA when we questioned it.........that's how that all came about at the 2004 NSS..................
Judy Zeigler
Jim and Gloria Eustace
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Cathy Iacopelli
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berihill
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Posts:271
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| 04/04/2008 9:58 AM |
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Chapter 14 Section 1 of Rules Pertaining to Dog Shows. Just says "Classes" does not differentiate regular or non-regular.
Jennifer Mills ~ Berihill GSPs & BCs
www.berihill.com
----- Original Message ---- From: "cathyyak@aol.com"
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 11:33:59 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
Does this pertain equally to regular and non regular classes?
Cathy
-----Original Message-----
From: Berihill
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
There is an AKC rule that a dog once it competes at a given show, must continue to compete in all class for which it is entered or becomes eligible. I just had this happen to me not too long ago and received a letter from AKC ;-). If the bitch who won WB at NSS not shown up for Hunting bitch...her WB award would have been diallowed. I don't think the owner would have wanted that! The rule book is available online at AKC site.
----- Original Message ---- From: Phyllis McNall < singltrak@singltrakshorthairs.com> To: gsp-l@web.whc.netSent: Friday, April 4, 2008 11:12:01 AM Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
Too bad. And really bad advice too...
Once a dog has entered the ring for a specific class, it has to continue to compete in the class, etc., but can be pulled from later classes, if double entered, not only in order to prevent something like this happening, but what if the dog becomes ill, hurts a foot, or something happens that it just can't be there later on.... That's always been the rule.
Oh well, at least she got BOW. (Did she not also receive an AOM ?)
Phyllis McNall
Singltrak Shorthairs...home to Best In Show, Dual Champion German Shorthaired Pointers
Las Cruces, New Mexico
We tried pulling her from from the hunting bitch class and were told we HAD to show her in Hunting bitch class by someone on the board for the GSPCA when we questioned it.........that's how that all came about at the 2004 NSS..................
Judy Zeigler
Jim and Gloria Eustace
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CathyYak
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| 04/04/2008 10:02 AM |
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[R] Double Entries Once a dog has competed, it
must continue to compete (Chapter 14, Section 1 of
the Rules). Dogs may be absent from the first class
and still compete in the second class. However, dogs
may not be shown in the first class and then be
marked absent in the second class. Once defeated in
any class, a dog is not eligible for Winners class.
[R] Non-Regular Competitive Classes (Rules Ch 3,
Section 13) Non-regular classes involving single dog
entries such as Veterans or Field Trial classes are judged
before Best of Breed. The show-giving club has the
option of awarding ribbons and prizes for first place only
or for all four places. The option selected must be indicated
in the premium list. The winner of the class, if otherwise
undefeated, is eligible to compete for Best of
Breed. A champion may occasionally be entered both in
a single dog entry non-regular class and Best of Breed.
In such cases, if the dog is defeated in the non-regular
class, it may not compete for Best of Breed or for Best of
Opposite Sex to Best of Breed. If there is a special attraction
for Puppies, Veterans, Stud Dog, Brood Bitch,
Brace, or Team Class, it is the responsibility of the showgiving
club to advise the judge of the correct judging procedure
prior to the start of judging.
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roggenfeldGSPs
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Posts:93
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| 04/04/2008 10:06 AM |
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Yes you can, but you had better have a good excuse for missing the
class (I over slept might work) for when you get the reprimand from
AKC. This would be a lot easier if Veterans wasn't the same morning
before the BOB class.
Pam Parshall
Roggenfeld Shorthairs
Adam DeLude wrote:
So sorta back to the original question if this person
entered his/her dog in veterans and in breed if at
the show she decided to not show in veterans and was
"absent" can she still show in breed?
Adam
--- Phyllis McNall
wrote:
Too bad. And really bad advice too...
Once a dog has entered the ring for a specific
class, it has to continue to compete in the class,
etc., but can be pulled from later classes, if
double entered, not only in order to prevent
something like this happening, but what if the dog
becomes ill, hurts a foot, or something happens that
it just can't be there later on.... That's always
been the rule.
Oh well, at least she got BOW. (Did she not also
receive an AOM ?)
Phyllis McNall
Singltrak Shorthairs...home to Best In Show, Dual
Champion German Shorthaired Pointers
Las Cruces, New Mexico
From: CRYSTALKENNELS@aol.com
We tried pulling her from from the hunting
bitch class and were told we HAD to show her in
Hunting bitch class by someone on the board for the
GSPCA when we questioned it.........that's how that
all came about at the 2004 NSS..................
Judy Zeigler
Jim and Gloria Eustace
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singltrak1
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| 04/04/2008 10:06 AM |
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| I think Jennifer's response is pretty much a moot point. I have always
understood (and that is how the specific rule reads) once a dog has entered
the ring for competition, it must continue to compete in that particular
class. It is debatable if that dog then HAS to compete in any other classes
it enters (or has become eligible as the rule reads).
Of course, it would continue to compete in BOB. But, if Jennifer has gotten
nailed by AKC, then it is probably interpretation too...
Ugh...poor you, Jennifer.
Phyllis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam DeLude"
To:
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
> So sorta back to the original question if this person
> entered his/her dog in veterans and in breed if at
> the show she decided to not show in veterans and was
> "absent" can she still show in breed?
>
> Adam
> --- Phyllis McNall
> wrote:
>
>> Too bad. And really bad advice too...
>> Once a dog has entered the ring for a specific
>> class, it has to continue to compete in the class,
>> etc., but can be pulled from later classes, if
>> double entered, not only in order to prevent
>> something like this happening, but what if the dog
>> becomes ill, hurts a foot, or something happens that
>> it just can't be there later on.... That's always
>> been the rule.
>>
>> Oh well, at least she got BOW. (Did she not also
>> receive an AOM ?)
>>
>> Phyllis McNall
>> Singltrak Shorthairs...home to Best In Show, Dual
>> Champion German Shorthaired Pointers
>> Las Cruces, New Mexico
>> From: CRYSTALKENNELS@aol.com
>>
>> We tried pulling her from from the hunting
>> bitch class and were told we HAD to show her in
>> Hunting bitch class by someone on the board for the
>> GSPCA when we questioned it.........that's how that
>> all came about at the 2004 NSS..................
>>
>> Judy Zeigler
>> Jim and Gloria Eustace
>>
>>
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berihill
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Posts:271
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| 04/04/2008 10:13 AM |
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| No not just that class. The dog must CONTINUE to compete in *all classes* for which it is entered or becomes eligible
Jennifer Mills ~ Berihill GSPs & BCs
www.berihill.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Phyllis McNall
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 11:56:12 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
I think Jennifer's response is pretty much a moot point. I have always
understood (and that is how the specific rule reads) once a dog has entered
the ring for competition, it must continue to compete in that particular
class. It is debatable if that dog then HAS to compete in any other classes
it enters (or has become eligible as the rule reads).
Of course, it would continue to compete in BOB. But, if Jennifer has gotten
nailed by AKC, then it is probably interpretation too...
Ugh...poor you, Jennifer.
Phyllis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam DeLude"
To:
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
> So sorta back to the original question if this person
> entered his/her dog in veterans and in breed if at
> the show she decided to not show in veterans and was
> "absent" can she still show in breed?
>
> Adam
> --- Phyllis McNall
> wrote:
>
>> Too bad. And really bad advice too...
>> Once a dog has entered the ring for a specific
>> class, it has to continue to compete in the class,
>> etc., but can be pulled from later classes, if
>> double entered, not only in order to prevent
>> something like this happening, but what if the dog
>> becomes ill, hurts a foot, or something happens that
>> it just can't be there later on.... That's always
>> been the rule.
>>
>> Oh well, at least she got BOW. (Did she not also
>> receive an AOM ?)
>>
>> Phyllis McNall
>> Singltrak Shorthairs...home to Best In Show, Dual
>> Champion German Shorthaired Pointers
>> Las Cruces, New Mexico
>> From: CRYSTALKENNELS@aol.com
>>
>> We tried pulling her from from the hunting
>> bitch class and were told we HAD to show her in
>> Hunting bitch class by someone on the board for the
>> GSPCA when we questioned it.........that's how that
>> all came about at the 2004 NSS..................
>>
>> Judy Zeigler
>> Jim and Gloria Eustace
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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berihill
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| 04/04/2008 10:21 AM |
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| Phyllis McNall wrote:
Ugh...poor you, Jennifer
No biggie...I just missed a call back for reserve with a puppy who won 2nd place in his puppy class, but it got my attention about that rule! As I show more than one breed and am running back and forth I have to be careful to try and have all dogs covered if I'm in another ring at the same time!
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berihill
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| 04/04/2008 10:27 AM |
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Thank you Cathy for pasting this...maybe you could also paste to the list the Chapter 14
Section 1. I cannot get it to copy. There seems to be some confusion there also. THANKS!
Jennifer Mills ~ Berihill GSPs & BCs
www.berihill.com
----- Original Message ---- From: "cathyyak@aol.com"
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 11:50:39 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
[R] Double Entries Once a dog has competed, it
must continue to compete (Chapter 14, Section 1 of
the Rules). Dogs may be absent from the first class
and still compete in the second class. However, dogs
may not be shown in the first class and then be
marked absent in the second class. Once defeated in
any class, a dog is not eligible for Winners class.
[R] Non-Regular Competitive Classes (Rules Ch 3,
Section 13) Non-regular classes involving single dog
entries such as Veterans or Field Trial classes are judged
before Best of Breed. The show-giving club has the
option of awarding ribbons and prizes for first place only
or for all four places. The option selected must be indicated
in the premium list. The winner of the class, if otherwise
undefeated, is eligible to compete for Best of
Breed. A champion may occasionally be entered both in
a single dog entry non-regular class and Best of Breed.
In such cases, if the dog is defeated in the non-regular
class, it may not compete for Best of Breed or for Best of
Opposite Sex to Best of Breed. If there is a special attraction
for Puppies, Veterans, Stud Dog, Brood Bitch,
Brace, or Team Class, it is the responsibility of the showgiving
club to advise the judge of the correct judging procedure
prior to the start of judging.
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shortales
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Posts:336
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| 04/04/2008 11:32 AM |
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The rule is as Jan stated. You may choose to be absent in the first class and then participate in the second but not the other way around.
Leita Estes Shortales German Shorthaired Pointers 1 Spotty dog (Dalmatian) Ch. Merry Go Rounds Match Point
----- Original Message ----
From: "cathyyak@aol.com"
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 8:54:55 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
I think that might be incorrect. I believe there is a rule that says that if a is dog entered and present at an event that it must compete unless excused by the judge, isn't there? If the judge excused the dog from either class, then it could not compete in the BOB class.
I did not know this back in the day and entered open and field trial bitch. The judge determined that I had to compete in and win both classes to compete in the BOB class. Won one and got second in the other, and could not compete further.
Cathy
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CathyYak
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Posts:963
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| 04/04/2008 11:34 AM |
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Here you go, Chapter 14, Section 1
SECTION 1. Every dog which is present in the ring for a class in which it is properly entered must continue to compete in all competition in its breed or variety for which it is entered or becomes eligible, unless it has been excused, dismissed, disqualified or found to be ineligible under the rules.
-----Original Message-----
From: Berihill
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 1:14 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
Thank you Cathy for pasting this...maybe you could also paste to the list the Chapter 14
Section 1. I cannot get it to copy. There seems to be some confusion there also. THANKS!
----- Original Message ----
From: " cathyyak@aol.com" < cathyyak@aol.com>
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 11:50:39 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
[R] Double Entries Once a dog has competed, it
must continue to compete (Chapter 14, Section 1 of
the Rules). Dogs may be absent from the first class
and still compete in the second class. However, dogs
may not be shown in the first class and then be
marked absent in the second class. Once defeated in
any class, a dog is not eligible for Winners class.
[R] Non-Regular Competitive Classes (Rules Ch 3,
Section 13) Non-regular classes involving single dog
entries such as Veterans or Field Trial classes are judged
before Best of Breed. The show-giving club has the
option of awarding ribbons and prizes for first place only
or for all four places. The option selected must be indicated
in the premium list. The winner of the class, if otherwise
undefeated, is eligible to compete for Best of
Breed. A champion may occasionally be entered both in
a single dog entry non-regular class and Best of Breed.
In such cases, if the dog is defeated in the non-regular
class, it may not compete for Best of Breed or for Best of
Opposite Sex to Best of Breed. If there is a special attraction
for Puppies, Veterans, Stud Dog, Brood Bitch,
Brace, or Team Class, it is the responsibility of the showgiving
club to advise the judge of the correct judging procedure
prior to the start of judging.
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CathyYak
MH
Posts:963
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| 04/04/2008 11:40 AM |
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Leita,
I was not responding to Jan's post, I was responding to one that Phyllis wrote:
<<Once a dog has entered the ring for a specific class, it has to continue to compete in the class, etc., but can be pulled from later classes, if double entered, not only in order to prevent something like this happening, but what if the dog becomes ill, hurts a foot, or something happens that it just can't be there later on.... That's always been the rule.>>
I agree with Jan.
Cathy
-----Original Message-----
From: Leita Estes
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
The rule is as Jan stated. You may choose to be absent in the first class and then participate in the second but not the other way around.
Leita Estes Shortales German Shorthaired Pointers 1 Spotty dog (Dalmatian) Ch. Merry Go Rounds Match Point
----- Original Message ----
From: " cathyyak@aol.com" < cathyyak@aol.com>
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 8:54:55 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
I think that might be incorrect. I believe there is a rule that says that if a is dog entered and present at an event that it must compete unless excused by the judge, isn't there? If the judge excused the dog from either class, then it could not compete in the BOB class.
I did not know this back in the day and entered open and field trial bitch. The judge determined that I had to compete in and win both classes to compete in the BOB class. Won one and got second in the other, and could not compete further.
Cathy
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odyssey
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| 04/04/2008 12:43 PM |
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| Char, If I remember correctly, Sue Clemons called the AKC, and at that time
they said if it was a non-regular class that she was defeated in, then she
could go in, and she did & was awarded BOW by Judge Burns. That is how I
remembered it anyway.
Judy Parietti
Odyssey German Shorthairs.
----- Original Message -----
From: "White River"
To:
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
> Sue is correct. Remember in Lancaster when the Winners Bitch was entered
> in Hunting Bitch (non-regular) class and was defeated - so could not go in
> the ring for Breed. Judge Burns did her the wonderful honor of allowing
> her a lap around by herself to recognize her wonderful accomplishment.
>
> Char R
> White River Shorthairs
> whiteriver@embarqmail.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: wyndbournegsp@aol.com
> To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
> Sent: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:52:06 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
>
> As best I know it, no. If he is defeated in Veterans he cannot go on to
> BOB.
>
> Sue Harrison
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gspdoo@aol.com
> To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
> Cc: Mariahgsps@aol.com
> Sent: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 8:43 pm
> Subject: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
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>
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> I got a question yesterday from someone?about entries for the NSS, and I
> wasn't sure of the answer. She wants to?enter a dog in both Veterans and
> BOB. I looked at the rule book and it says that if a dog is defeated
> in?any regular class, it can't go in for BOB. Since Veterans is a
> non-regular class, I would think it can go in for BOB even if it does not
> win the Veterans class.
>
> ?
>
> Am I right?
>
> ?
>
> Sandra Kretz
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endevergsp
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| 04/04/2008 2:44 PM |
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This rule isn't just for specialty shows. I double entered once at a local show and I was told by the judge that I had to win both BBE and Open class in order to go back in for WD. I was not allowed to pull from either class.
Kim
www.endevergsp.com
----- Original Message ---- From: Berihill
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 11:26:16 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
There is an AKC rule that a dog once it competes at a given show, must continue to compete in all class for which it is entered or becomes eligible. I just had this happen to me not too long ago and received a letter from AKC ;-). If the bitch who won WB at NSS not shown up for Hunting bitch...her WB award would have been diallowed. I don't think the owner would have wanted that! The rule book is available online at AKC site.
Jennifer Mills ~ Berihill GSPs & BCs
www.berihill.com
----- Original Message ---- From: Phyllis McNall
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 11:12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
Too bad. And really bad advice too...
Once a dog has entered the ring for a specific class, it has to continue to compete in the class, etc., but can be pulled from later classes, if double entered, not only in order to prevent something like this happening, but what if the dog becomes ill, hurts a foot, or something happens that it just can't be there later on.... That's always been the rule.
Oh well, at least she got BOW. (Did she not also receive an AOM ?)
Phyllis McNall
Singltrak Shorthairs...home to Best In Show, Dual Champion German Shorthaired Pointers
Las Cruces, New Mexico
We tried pulling her from from the hunting bitch class and were told we HAD to show her in Hunting bitch class by someone on the board for the GSPCA when we questioned it.........that's how that all came about at the 2004 NSS..................
Judy Zeigler
Jim and Gloria Eustace
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LahrGSP
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| 04/04/2008 5:28 PM |
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Didn't it say in the rules you can be absent for the first class and
compete in the other? Or am I missing something?
In a message dated 4/4/2008 1:34:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
k.endicott@yahoo.com writes:
This rule isn't just for specialty shows. I double entered once at a local
show and I was told by the judge that I had to win both BBE and Open
class in order to go back in for WD. I was not allowed to pull
from either class.
Kim
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endevergsp
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| 04/04/2008 8:40 PM |
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This has been about three years ago but the judge asked the rep and I was told that I had to win both classes, which I did. It started when I tried to scratch from BBE, I hoped to just show in open. I was told that was not an option. It could have been a mistake.
----- Original Message ---- From: "LahrGSP@aol.com"
To: gsp-l@web.whc.net
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 7:17:20 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-l] Another Entry Question -- NSS
Didn't it say in the rules you can be absent for the first class and compete in the other? Or am I missing something?
In a message dated 4/4/2008 1:34:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, k.endicott@yahoo.com writes:
This rule isn't just for specialty shows. I double entered once at a local show and I was told by the judge that I had to win both BBE and Open class in order to go back in for WD. I was not allowed to pull from either class.
Kim
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